EPTunless I can in?
I think I only played 3 games :/
Newbie Mini Mafia XXXV
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Oatsmaster
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unless I can in? I think I only played 3 games :/ | ||
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Im also in MTG II but if that starts before this, i can stll join this right? | ||
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Just to inform people, I wont be able to get online until like 10 hours after the game starts. | ||
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On January 12 2013 13:09 Mocsta wrote: Hi All. From other games, it seems the best 3 questions to ask are: 1) Stance on Lurkers: i.e. Do you policy lynch? 2) How do you think scum would try to get influence with us? 3) [fluff] DONT BUY A POOL. I wasted all my time today with pools and hate it ! I won't be around for the next 6 to 8 hrs (DAMN POOL!) Question 1. How does a yes/no question start discussion? Thats right, it doesnt. Question 2. How is that relevant in a game of Newbies where everyone is just trying to provide an answer that may not be accurate. Question 3. Please dont mention pool. Again. | ||
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On January 12 2013 19:58 zebezt wrote: I think we gotta make sure we don't let people get away with easy bandwagon votes. If you vote for somebody, make sure you state the reasons why, even if you think others have already stated those. Try finding a new piece of incriminating info to go with your vote. This way people will hopefully be critical of who they vote for and it should give us extra information that everyone can benefit from. I think this is a good idea, if only to see if scum can keep their story straight. | ||
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Its not that he asked about policy lynching, its that the question is phrased in a such a way that someone can get away with a yes/no answer that doesnt generate discussion. 2. How confident are you in your answer to question 2? My point was that the question is not a good question because what do we know about optimum scum behaviour? | ||
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Lynching a scum read is good because it provides discussion around the lynchee which is helpful in locating scum. For example, a day 1 scum lynch will almost surely not have any scum, depending on the situation so then just lynch everyone who wasnt on the wagon. Really optimistic example. However lynching a lurker is bad because it doesnt generate meaningful discussion because its a yes/no question. Lynch this lurker or not. And its really difficult to actually justify a lurker lynch in another way other than, he has not contributed, he is harmful to town, he should die. 2. I really dont want to answer that. Because I dont think my answer will help town in any way. | ||
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On January 13 2013 07:57 Mocsta wrote: ] The guides are REALLY useful - make sure you read them again; also speak to the coaches. The feedback is invaluable. Stop mentioning coaching. | ||
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In fact, im gonna vote you. After I show how you are scum On January 12 2013 16:38 Mocsta wrote: BUT.. you are almost sounding "paranoid" - I know this, because after my last game, many assumed I was "paranoid". What is wrong with sounding paranoid? Do you instantly believe what the other person says? This is scummy because Town wants paranoid players to find scum and scum want believing players to manipulate. On January 12 2013 16:41 Mocsta wrote: zarepath, thanks for the well thought out response. I actually replied to Sn0_Man before reading this.. if i did read this first, I could have saved myself a post.  Scum also want to buddy the most active town player in the thread so that they wont get pushed by him. Mocsta, how does this post add to the 'conversation' you keep talking about? On January 13 2013 07:14 Mocsta wrote: Wow. Thats it over the night shift. Oats u sound like sno_man. perhaps the aggresion u 2 have shown is why there is a lack of discussion. I think u should read what i posted to him. My questions are ice breakers and i have not a genuine comment from to stimulate town conversation. In fact. You are deterring conversation. @oatsmaster Why should i NOT treat is the outcome of your agressive posts [stopping fluid and positive town conversation] as scummy motivations Come on, show how me and sno-man are not stimulating conversation? Not being all friendly and nice isnt a scumtell you know. Like what is a genuine comment? Sounds like fluff you are throwing out there because you cant respond to my post. On January 13 2013 07:23 Mocsta wrote: Trotske, I agree his posts are ermm.. "diffferent?".. however, there are still to my knowledge 3 participants who have not contributed at all. Acid, Shz, Glurio @Trotske Since you are here, I may as well try to generate some meaningful discussion. (1) Do you think it was reasonable to mention to Sn0_Man and Oatsmaster that their over-agressive/paranoid type early-game playstyle might actually be preventing people from talking (including the 3 I listed above)? (2) Do you think that behaviour is a normal town approach to the game? Ok mentioning the lurkers which everyone can see... Looks involved but has no point in stimulating conversation. The first question he asked Trotske is hilarious. 'Do you think that my posts on them were scummy?' That is not a townie mindset. At all. Because town is more concerned about finding scum, than caring how they look to the other players. 2. Again, what is the point in asking this question? It looks good at first glance but this can be adequately be answered in great detail by both scum and town so what he is trying to get out of it? He is trying to see if people agree with the oats/sno lynch. Mocsta, either shape up or die. ##Vote: Mocsta | ||
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On January 13 2013 01:42 Oatsmaster wrote: Fuck no. Lynching a scum read is good because it provides discussion around the lynchee which is helpful in locating scum. For example, a day 1 scum lynch will almost surely not have any scum, depending on the situation so then just lynch everyone who wasnt on the wagon. Really optimistic example. However lynching a lurker is bad because it doesnt generate meaningful discussion because its a yes/no question. Lynch this lurker or not. And its really difficult to actually justify a lurker lynch in another way other than, he has not contributed, he is harmful to town, he should die. 2. I really dont want to answer that. Because I dont think my answer will help town in any way. On January 13 2013 01:28 Oatsmaster wrote: 1. Its not that he asked about policy lynching, its that the question is phrased in a such a way that someone can get away with a yes/no answer that doesnt generate discussion. 2. How confident are you in your answer to question 2? My point was that the question is not a good question because what do we know about optimum scum behaviour? | ||
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On January 13 2013 08:55 Mocsta wrote: All you have done is successfully derailed the thread convo, and made people uncomfortable to post. Others have agreed with me. I see no town motivation for your behaviour. You have continued this behaviour, and when asked about it, you dodge the questions and instead ask irrelevant questions to the mods. OOO I like this post. Explain how I have derailed thread convo. How have I dodged questions. Where are the irrelevent questions. TO EVERYONE: I see no town motivation for your behaviour. Notice how he doesnt say that my behaviour is scummy. Notice. Mocsta, do you want to lynch people for being bad or for being scum? | ||
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Everyone else, comment on the situation please. | ||
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Please actually quote, it irritates me when you say I am wrong about you and you leave it at that. hey.. you realise your not helping out town with your attitude Thanks for not telling me how to change. On January 13 2013 07:18 Mocsta wrote: @oatsmaster Why should i NOT treat is the outcome of your agressive posts [stopping fluid and positive town conversation] as scummy motivations How does aggressive posts stop fluid and positive town conversation? What is your idea of a good town conversation Mocsta? Why are you so against town collaborating together to prepare for the scum hunt? I started the scumhunting? How does town collaborate when no one knows who else is town? If people dont want to post, then that is their problem. I shouldnt have to force people to post right? On January 13 2013 18:00 OmniEulogy wrote: Hmm... Mocsta could you link the game Oats was scum. I just looked through three of his old games and he was town in all. It did bring to my attention the massive change in his play style though. Although it doesn't incriminate him, it sure as hell doesn't help what I'm thinking about him. I was scum in this game http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=385389 The hypocrisy in what you've accused Mocsta of and what you have done so far is amazing. Explain please | ||
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On January 13 2013 07:40 Mocsta wrote: This is funny coming from you. *ALMOST SURELY NOT* Didnt you play in Newbie 32...werent you lynched Day1 as scum? I think its unlikely to lynch scum Day1, and in my 2 games we haven't achieved that. But obviously something went right in your game to lynch you. So far, there havevn't been too many contributions; but a few of us have indicated wanting a combined scum hunt and bouncing ideas against each other. I 100% advocate this as well. Perhaps this will be the key to lynching scum Day1 (after all I dont want you to feel alone )Umm Rad wasnt on my wagon, so im right.. but a few of us have indicated wanting a combined scum hunt and bouncing ideas against each other. I 100% advocate this as well. So when I actually post a case, you just say, you OMGUS me and totally ignore it OTHER than saying LOLOL YOU'RE WRONG. Others have agreed with me. So you need the other players approval before voting? Why? Do you notice the Timecodes on the posts? Mocsta Australia. January 13 2013 08:55. Posts 336 Oatsmaster Singapore. January 13 2013 08:58. Posts 772 How could I have written the case in response to your FoS? | ||
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I really dont know what real facts your need to have before you lynch. A scumslip? You leave both of those open to 1 word answers. Just in case you don't know... Hypocrisy: Noun Do you think that Mocsta would answer those with 1 word? Exactly. Its all about context. That's a hard one... not answering questions and getting so defensive to the point of making a terrible case How was I defensive? I didnt even see the FoS before I posted the case as I mentioned above. Ok Omni, What scum reads do you have? | ||
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