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JieXian
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kush, you need to respect a native taiwanese a little more not think he's an idiot when it comes to his own language >_> dandel was referring to your mistake with 说中文 because 文 refers to the writing form of the language. not really because the language barely has grammar. every sentence has its own structure it's ridiculous We do have grammatical rules which are the easiest among any other language I've known (zero conjugations for starters) Of course, after reading a few of your posts it's no mystery why you can't crack it. | ||
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A: If Christmas happens, the Day on which Christmas takes place will be extended by 24 hours as The Inquisition stays home to pray. LOLOL Just starting to really understand things since I'm kinda busy with my work =( Really liking this flavour especially how the Catholics are the mafia hahaha, Mr Blaze, did you come up with this? | ||
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On December 15 2012 02:06 Promethelax wrote: That isn't something to be proud of buddy. haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahhahah didn't read it that way at first ZING man, ZING | ||
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At first I was really confused (scummy read) about hapa's mindless babbling about 13-3, which ISN'T RELEVANT to anything at all because you can't change anything except stir the discussion towards the wrong direction. Later I got a stronger read from DP from his ridiculous "pressuring" above all for a point that's completely moot Djo why did you vote for Mr Zentor But above all there's Mr Zentor's relative non-chalance to everything seems to trump everything else as doesn't seem to give a damn to anything as townies are well on their way to lynching one another ##Vote MrZentor | ||
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I found what Dp and hapa was saying to be weird BUT I changed my mind as I kept on reading the thread (notice how those 2 points were quite early on) Based on MrZentor's "uselessness" as you guys termed it, my meta read on him shows that he's acting differently but most of all, if he were scum, he'd have nothing else to do but sit and watch because dp and hapa were in the spotlight and not take any blame. Meaning he doesn't need to participate and make/risk any reads. I mean take a look at everyone else that's posting, they are all reads (be it weak or strong or sheep reads) | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=341663&user=137099 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=363625&user=137099 0 reads 0 risks this game, because town has been going the wrong way, because he doesn't need to. | ||
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On December 16 2012 12:50 Djodref wrote: JieXan First of all, I liked DYH latest case against him + Show Spoiler [for reference] + On December 16 2012 07:32 DoYouHas wrote: @DP - I think the optimal way to play is to do our best to get the witch hunter to miss. Losing 2 townies, good or bad, is always worse than losing 1. I don't think this is going to convince you, so I'm not going to bring it up again. I'm feeling more comfortable with my vote on JX right now. His initial post was rather scummy, the thing to note about it is that it looks constructed (the phrases used when talking about hapa and MrZ, "mindless babbling" & "relative non-chalance". What makes me think he is scum is the progression of his pushing MrZ. A behavior read. An unsupported meta read with some WIFOM. Finally providing support for his meta read. Not conclusive enough considering he is ignoring paranoia (MrZ's most recent town game). This reads like he is trying to justify his stance on MrZ after the fact. Instead of finding MrZ scummy and looking into him, the presenting good reasons to vote him, JX voted him, then went in search of the reasons when pressured. This strikes me as scummy. I already pointed out how his first post feels constructed, and if that is true and he spent time on that post, why didn't he spend time backing up his vote on MrZ right from the start? Here is how he entered the thread casually spreading suspicion over Hapa and DP. His point against Hapa is not so bad, but it's kind of nit picky. I'll pass him this one because I was really startled when Hapa brought it. On the other hand, his points against DP and Zentor are bad. Regarding DP, in the early game, you have to pressure people for some trivia, and pressuring people is more a townie behavior than a mafia behavior, even if it's not totally true for DP. The main point here is that he calls them townies in the same post. That's just a scumslip. because this refers to Hapa and DP. So he enters the thread by spreading suspicion on them but calling them townies when he votes finally MrZ. So either he has a townread on them, in this case the first suspicions and points against them are totally useless and unwarranted for, either he is a mafia player that knows their alignment. Let's take a look at the rest of his filter to decide what is more likely. He doesn't really comment on the fact that he called them townies. And now he said that they were saying weird things, and not scummy things. And then just proceeds to tunnel MrZ, which has not given us so much to work from. Right now, I think that JieXan has the most chances to flip scum. Hence my vote. ##Vote Jiexan wth I started with commenting about the behavior from dp and hapa was confusing and mindless babbing and put scumminess in brackets: I'm the most consistent player here with my stand. I only called dp and hapa townie / less likely to me mafia and not everyone else wth. Got no strong reads on anyone besides MRZ. I've played a game with town hapa and I felt the same about his behavior while he was posting cases and I found his logic questionable at times too, guess what? I learnt that strong townie players DO do stupid things too. My case against MrZ still stands firm: He's extremely timid this game, read his damn posts: and compare it to his town filters. Vote against himself, DUH vote against me, comments on lurkers NOT A SINGLE READ YET On December 16 2012 14:01 Djodref wrote: On the opposite, my case against JieXan is based on his scumslip regarding DP and Hapa. I got a strong town read on dp and slightly town read on hapa. I said that I changed my mind as I was typing my first post, as I was thinking. It was a post about my train of thought. | ||
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On December 16 2012 07:32 DoYouHas wrote: Finally providing support for his meta read. Not conclusive enough considering he is ignoring paranoia (MrZ's most recent town game). This reads like he is trying to justify his stance on MrZ after the fact. Instead of finding MrZ scummy and looking into him, the presenting good reasons to vote him, JX voted him, then went in search of the reasons when pressured. This strikes me as scummy. I already pointed out how his first post feels constructed, and if that is true and he spent time on that post, why didn't he spend time backing up his vote on MrZ right from the start? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383489&user=137099 What? I see him making reads there on the first page. Voting on someone and looking for reasons later is an act of a completely retarded 5 year old mafia player ...... I only posted my train of thought as my first post because I was about to leave and can only post in 10 hours later I can't justify my read on dp yet because useful information is coming out right now as people as posting cases against me | ||
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On December 15 2012 14:57 thrawn2112 wrote: ok it's even better than that: says hapa did suspicious stuff, said dp did suspicious stuff..... yet we are all townies trying to lynch each other? wtf? it's only referring to hapa and dp , not you | ||
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Next in the list are other lurkers which are hard to make a case against for now. On December 16 2012 14:31 thrawn2112 wrote: JieXian, you accuse zentor of being timid.... there are some other anti town words I can think of that describe his play so far but timid is definitely not one of them what might that be? | ||
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Filters Will be Listed Here, along with Day/Night - Hide Spoiler [Important Posts] - End of D1 End of N1 End of D2 End of N2 Yes, he's a lot quieter than the other games I read through but you can't deny the existence of reads in the first page of his filter http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383489&user=137099 | ||
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and of course posting my train of thought on my suspicions on people won't/wasn't a good idea | ||
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On December 16 2012 16:55 Hapahauli wrote: It seems pretty similar in content really. Any difference IMO is pretty easily explained by the seeming consensus lynch target in this game atm (you). Speaking of the lynch, at this point I'm less interested in seeing you go after MrZ, and more interested in you read-dumping. The reads you've provided so far are pretty... non-controversial. You have two town-reads on the most active players in the game, and a scum-read on a troll-type player. There are many other people I want to hear your opinions about: Djo, Drazak, Kush... that's the analysis I want to see you provide. non-controversial wth? my explicit town reads were the cause of this mess on my side, maybe not for you but definitely for On December 15 2012 14:51 thrawn2112 wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On December 15 2012 14:47 JieXian wrote: Hi and sorry I'm late, I'm at +8GMT and I didn't wake up as early as DarthPunk At first I was really confused (scummy read) about hapa's mindless babbling about 13-3, which ISN'T RELEVANT to anything at all because you can't change anything except stir the discussion towards the wrong direction. Later I got a stronger read from DP from his ridiculous "pressuring" above all for a point that's completely moot But above all there's Mr Zentor's relative non-chalance to everything seems to trump everything else as doesn't seem to give a damn to anything as townies are well on their way to lynching one another ##Vote MrZentor o.O ##unvote ##vote JieXian On December 16 2012 14:01 Djodref wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On the opposite, my case against JieXan is based on his scumslip regarding DP and Hapa. And to answer your question, you have to give your own reasons for wanting to lynch JieXan. So we can have a better read on you. I don't understand how you can be so sure that JieXan is going to flip scum and I want you to explain yourself ! On December 15 2012 14:52 DarthPunk wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Yeah. I saw that too. But it seems to easy. dp didn't push it hard though but it was only because it was "too easy" and activeness will not be part of my main justification for towniness for dp and hapa and djo I can assure you that I'll address the reads later you still haven't answered me yet I'm genuinely curious oh shit almost edited my post while i was quoting it | ||
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On December 16 2012 07:32 DoYouHas wrote: not to mention yourself On December 16 2012 05:17 Hapahauli wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On December 16 2012 01:06 JieXian wrote: I was out the whole day man relax. You guys didn't understand my post. I found what Dp and hapa was saying to be weird BUT I changed my mind as I kept on reading the thread (notice how those 2 points were quite early on) Based on MrZentor's "uselessness" as you guys termed it, my meta read on him shows that he's acting differently but most of all, if he were scum, he'd have nothing else to do but sit and watch because dp and hapa were in the spotlight and not take any blame. Meaning he doesn't need to participate and make/risk any reads. I mean take a look at everyone else that's posting, they are all reads (be it weak or strong or sheep reads) Saying that "you changed your mind" on a read is pretty easy to do in a post. Why didn't you simply say so? Also, if you changed your mind on a read, why would you even mention an outdated read in the first place? Also, you called us (myself, DP, perhaps some others) all town. That's a problem. That last post of yours made absolutely no sense what the hell? | ||
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