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Why is Blazinghand so useless? Why has VE not complained about the lack of scumhunting? Why did Lazermonkey find the need to vote Ace before telling us all he'd be on later? Why does Xatalos seem scummy but has received the most attention, but not that many votes? I find myself questioning a lot in this game. | ||
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And marv, I'm not convinced he's scum. Yet. | ||
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I don't remember the last votecount but from my mental image of the game it seems like we're moving toward lynching Xatalos. I'm fine with that; I have some small doubts that he might not be scum (i.e. his activity, for one) but I've seen him play active scum (Newbie XV for example) so perhaps it doesn't mean anything. However, I want to point out that there is something about Lazermonkey that I find quite disconcerting: he shows up for a brief amount of time, votes randomly, and then leaves. He first did that with Ace and then did it again with Shiaopi. His exchange with Shiaopi seemed really forced and artificial, and he hasn't said anything of substance. Try to think of an opinion he's had or of anything of substance he's said: my mind comes up blank. ##vote Lazermonkey | ||
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On December 01 2012 10:21 marvellosity wrote: cool, can we kill bugs now I understand why Ace voted you now. rofl. If anyone else is curious, go check out marvellosity's filter. If he's town, he's doig a pretty shitty job of keeping the thread coherent. | ||
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It's also amusing that every time I roll scum no one calls me scum and then I get shot by some faggot 3rd party or a vigi who is scared of my scum play. | ||
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Compare it to what I could do here (and note that it would be exactly what marv said about what I am saying) On December 01 2012 11:05 marvellosity wrote: this is scummy as shit. actually we've not been useless for quite a lot of pages now, and if you'd read properly you'd know this. luckily for you, bugs is scummier right now. Let's do some marv-level translation: marv: this is scummy as fuck but I'm going to keep my vote on the guy I'm currently on because I say he's scummier. How the fuck is that different from saying that I find someone currently on the lynch list scummy, but I'd rather pressure someone else who I don't have the same doubts about? | ||
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He also seems afraid to put forth his opinions or attack players based on what he sees (e.g. the suspicion of Ace comment-would call him scum if he were someone else) which is not something townies generally do or should do. ##unvote Lazermonkey ##vote Zealos | ||
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On December 02 2012 05:14 marvellosity wrote: yeah i don't like any of it. I'm hesitant on Zealos because his play always comes across as super weakly to me. Although why he keeps referring to some game which was more than half my mafia career ago I have no idea. Xatalos has managed to post so much without saying almost anything which is irritating. What makes me hesitant is that I can understand his thought process on some things. I also am having an extremely hard time getting town reads this game, and the timing of your debears case did seem opportunistic at the time (not even saying that's what it was, but I had that gut reaction at the time reading the thread). Ace is a dick bugs is a dick Zentor is Zentor ShiaoPi is pointless All DYH has done is talk about Xatalos Dandel has sat on his arse doing nothing literally all day. I think... I want to lynch DarthPunk. I found his early defence of Xatalos quite bizarre and unnecessary. Not only this, it has been quite out of play with his subsequent play. DarthPunk tells us he was "feeling protective" of newbie Xatalos. But he treats Lazermonkey, someone with not many games and with similar standing in the game, as a piece of fucking shit on the bottom of his shoe. He also calls the whole thread useless and retards, which jarred at the point that a lot of us were genuinely trying to talk through Xatalos and other matters. It was just shitty ranting for the sake of shitty ranting. I'm also not picking up any of the towntells I normally get from DP. They might just be absent and he's town, but I don't think so. He's aggressive without being helpful and I think we should lynch him today. ##vote: DarthPunk yes, let's call scum one of the only players in the game who is not afraid to put forth his opinion. The fuck are you smoking? Where is your meta read of DP coming from? Based on my cursory reads of his meta and past games, I have to agree 100% with his defense (to BH) and that you're completely wrong about how he plays both mafia and town. In addition, since when is calling people dumb a scumtell? DP is clearly not afraid to draw attention to himself by saying the thread has so far been useless. I don't find that particularly scummy in most situations, so I don't understand how DP is suddenly the exception. | ||
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Also everything you just said is not backed up by any evidence. I took a completely different interpretation from my reading of DP's posts in past games. Why don't you actually provide some evidence for your claims, since the burden of proof is on you to establish why DP is scum? | ||
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On December 02 2012 05:27 austinmcc wrote: For anyone who's particularly concerned about Zealos's vote on Xatalos indicating Zealos is scum...here's my hangup. WHY WOULD SCUM DROP A VOTE LIKE THAT? When it comes down to "scumZealos is trying to look like he's not just jumping on board a lynch" and "townZealos is dropping a vote without a good explanation" ... I lean towards the townZealos option. I know that you may want to justify a vote as scum, but...that's not the way to do it. Right? That's where my head is at right now on Zealos. Without that vote, he's scummy. With that vote, I have more trouble thinking that he's scum. what the fuck? scum drop votes like that all the time. They're not backed heavily by justification, or they're backed by "justification" that is made to look as if a contribution is being made. Was what Zealos said real contribution or was it "contribution"? I think the answer to that is fairly self-evident. The vote itself is null at worst. | ||
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On December 02 2012 05:30 marvellosity wrote: ?? the only thing that isn't apparent from reading his filter or the thread is what I consider his town/scum tells to be. Come up with some comparisons of his play here to play in past games that actually show what you're saying. So far you just seem like you're full of shit, since I can't see what you're talking about. Prove me wrong or I'll start gunning to kill you, since your reasons so far all game have been god awful. | ||
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On December 02 2012 05:32 marvellosity wrote: coming from the cesspool of shite that is you, that's rich. fuck off, bugs. so your response to me questioning your case is to get pissy and tell me to fuck off? Cool, you went from "probably town" to "probably scum" in a matter of 5 minutes. Prepare your anus for the tunneling you're about to receive. | ||
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Firstly: he has 6 pages of almost nothing but aggressive one liners. He calls out DP for being aggressive and antitown, yet he's arguably been the most "aggressive" and antitown player all game. I chalked this up to him just being his normal town self, but something seems off in his reasoning this game. He seems artificially bold and he doesn't actually have good reasoning for anything that he's saying. Indeed he just tried to use a position of authority on DP ("I got his alignment right before" bullshit) instead of actually furthering his case with evidence. When I asked for evidence that supports his claims, he just told me to fuck off. It's clear he's full of hot air and is just a scum flailing around trying to make accusations stick. His accusation on me clearly didn't stick after his half-assed shitty "contradiction" case. It was clear to anyone who was reading the thread that I am not scum, and only the bandwagon-happy and lazy players actually agreed with him. Check this out: On December 01 2012 10:52 marvellosity wrote: i take it i need to teach you how to read here he throws out a bunch of questions he has no intention of following up on in the first 24 hours of LI that you kindly linked, he interacts with town, has several posts, and asks at least 3 different players who they want to kill and who they think they are scum gl finding the same thing this game How does he know what I think based on one post I made at the time? He says I had no intention on following up on my questions, before i had posted anything. ??? He calls out Zealos at some point for misrepresentation, yet this is as shining of an example of misrepresentation as one could ever find. ##unvote Zealos ##vote marvellosity | ||
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On December 02 2012 06:52 marvellosity wrote: You are Jamie Hyneman. Your love of the scientific method makes it possible for you to find out how shit works. You've also got a cool collection of cameras and stuff, that you can totally use to track people. (Detective) LOL what kind of shit cop claims day 1? Of all people marv would know that this is a terrible idea as town. So, guess what? HE'S NOT TOWN! | ||
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On December 02 2012 07:31 marvellosity wrote: the sad, tragic thing is that it's unlikely both Ace and bugs are scum.  neither of us are scum you moron | ||
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herpa derpa herpa derpa it's like that one time prplhz or whoever the fuck claimed cop d1 and then everyone let him live | ||
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scum do whatever they want to live when they think they're gonna die | ||
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