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On November 20 2012 06:44 Promethelax wrote:
## Steal: Cave Johnson's swell helmet
##Attack with Wood Sword
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On November 20 2012 06:55 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 06:50 CaveJohnson wrote:On November 20 2012 06:44 Promethelax wrote:
## Steal: Cave Johnson's swell helmet ##Attack with Wood Sword ## defend with homeless broken bottle fighting skills
Now I have enough tech...
##Cyclone: Promethelax
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On November 20 2012 07:09 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 07:08 CaveJohnson wrote:On November 20 2012 06:55 Promethelax wrote:On November 20 2012 06:50 CaveJohnson wrote:On November 20 2012 06:44 Promethelax wrote:
## Steal: Cave Johnson's swell helmet ##Attack with Wood Sword ## defend with homeless broken bottle fighting skills Now I have enough tech... ##Cyclone: Promethelax oh shit, I'm going to oz.
##Attack with Wood Sword
Victory - Find 200G
Equip: Bronze helm
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I just woke up to 200 messages in the thread so you are going to have to give me a while to read them.
Don't vote for me
Don't bring me on events (At least not this cycle)
We will need a Medic, Vigilante and probably someone with 999 hp for Lavos so if you can only use your ability once you might want to think about that.
I'll be back in a few hours. I just needed to /confirm
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On November 22 2012 00:50 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2012 18:22 CaveJohnson wrote:
I just woke up to 200 messages in the thread so you are going to have to give me a while to read them.
Don't vote for me
Don't bring me on events (At least not this cycle)
We will need a Medic, Vigilante and probably someone with 999 hp for Lavos so if you can only use your ability once you might want to think about that.
I'll be back in a few hours. I just needed to /confirm Does it strike anyone else as odd that CaveJohnson mentioned an actual hp number? I've been trying to figure it out, but isn't this either a bad move as town (gives scum information about you) or .... some weird scum ploy that I can't see because I would need more information.
On November 22 2012 01:00 syllogism wrote:
Max hp in Chrono trigger the game is 999, that's likely all there is to that. Nothing worth pursuing
At least do the simple research on the game...
Anyway I dislike the dinosaur guy his early posts were all fluff his election campaign is a bigger joke than his reads (Intending to completely waste his vote) and he used the newbie excuse which is generally enough excuse to shoot someone.
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On November 22 2012 02:04 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2012 02:01 CaveJohnson wrote:On November 22 2012 00:50 Clarity_nl wrote:On November 21 2012 18:22 CaveJohnson wrote:
I just woke up to 200 messages in the thread so you are going to have to give me a while to read them.
Don't vote for me
Don't bring me on events (At least not this cycle)
We will need a Medic, Vigilante and probably someone with 999 hp for Lavos so if you can only use your ability once you might want to think about that.
I'll be back in a few hours. I just needed to /confirm Does it strike anyone else as odd that CaveJohnson mentioned an actual hp number? I've been trying to figure it out, but isn't this either a bad move as town (gives scum information about you) or .... some weird scum ploy that I can't see because I would need more information. On November 22 2012 01:00 syllogism wrote:
Max hp in Chrono trigger the game is 999, that's likely all there is to that. Nothing worth pursuing At least do the simple research on the game... Anyway I dislike the dinosaur guy his early posts were all fluff his election campaign is a bigger joke than his reads (Intending to completely waste his vote) and he used the newbie excuse which is generally enough excuse to shoot someone. So you think a noob scum is blatantly going to come into the tread in the way he did?
Would't put it past another member of his team to tell him to do that.
We have all seen people emulate Blazinghand.
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On November 22 2012 02:27 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2012 02:16 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 22 2012 02:09 marvellosity wrote:
*colours Cave in orange* Can I have a legend for your color scheme? orange is a scumread. Z-bo/Hapa were this colour end of day 1 in mario. Crossfire was in red when I died, for "i'm certain". Cave comes in calling some fluffly nublet scum without actually calling him scum and for nebulous reasons. Supremely easy target. "his mafia team could have told him to do that" is nonsense too.
Easy target != wrong
Kill the easy targets before end game or you lose its simple game logic. Trying to go around that on day 1 is idiotic and foolish and you should know better.
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On November 22 2012 02:33 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2012 02:32 CaveJohnson wrote:On November 22 2012 02:27 marvellosity wrote:On November 22 2012 02:16 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 22 2012 02:09 marvellosity wrote:
*colours Cave in orange* Can I have a legend for your color scheme? orange is a scumread. Z-bo/Hapa were this colour end of day 1 in mario. Crossfire was in red when I died, for "i'm certain". Cave comes in calling some fluffly nublet scum without actually calling him scum and for nebulous reasons. Supremely easy target. "his mafia team could have told him to do that" is nonsense too. Easy target != wrong Kill the easy targets before end game or you lose its simple game logic. Trying to go around that on day 1 is idiotic and foolish and you should know better. obviously you misunderstand what I say, but do carry on. Easy target as in he's new and fluffy. Technically you're an easy target too, but I still think you're scum.
The new and fluffy will have to die as well. We don't need complications in the end game.
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On November 22 2012 02:38 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2012 02:37 CaveJohnson wrote:On November 22 2012 02:33 marvellosity wrote:On November 22 2012 02:32 CaveJohnson wrote:On November 22 2012 02:27 marvellosity wrote:On November 22 2012 02:16 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 22 2012 02:09 marvellosity wrote:
*colours Cave in orange* Can I have a legend for your color scheme? orange is a scumread. Z-bo/Hapa were this colour end of day 1 in mario. Crossfire was in red when I died, for "i'm certain". Cave comes in calling some fluffly nublet scum without actually calling him scum and for nebulous reasons. Supremely easy target. "his mafia team could have told him to do that" is nonsense too. Easy target != wrong Kill the easy targets before end game or you lose its simple game logic. Trying to go around that on day 1 is idiotic and foolish and you should know better. obviously you misunderstand what I say, but do carry on. Easy target as in he's new and fluffy. Technically you're an easy target too, but I still think you're scum. The new and fluffy will have to die as well. We don't need complications in the end game. Excellent, more wanting to kill people for reasons that aren't that they are scum. New and fluffy != scum (to use your construction) and we want to kill scum, dear. Anything else?
No point killing scum if you can't kill Lavos
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On November 22 2012 02:40 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2012 02:39 CaveJohnson wrote:On November 22 2012 02:38 marvellosity wrote:On November 22 2012 02:37 CaveJohnson wrote:On November 22 2012 02:33 marvellosity wrote:On November 22 2012 02:32 CaveJohnson wrote:On November 22 2012 02:27 marvellosity wrote:On November 22 2012 02:16 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 22 2012 02:09 marvellosity wrote:
*colours Cave in orange* Can I have a legend for your color scheme? orange is a scumread. Z-bo/Hapa were this colour end of day 1 in mario. Crossfire was in red when I died, for "i'm certain". Cave comes in calling some fluffly nublet scum without actually calling him scum and for nebulous reasons. Supremely easy target. "his mafia team could have told him to do that" is nonsense too. Easy target != wrong Kill the easy targets before end game or you lose its simple game logic. Trying to go around that on day 1 is idiotic and foolish and you should know better. obviously you misunderstand what I say, but do carry on. Easy target as in he's new and fluffy. Technically you're an easy target too, but I still think you're scum. The new and fluffy will have to die as well. We don't need complications in the end game. Excellent, more wanting to kill people for reasons that aren't that they are scum. New and fluffy != scum (to use your construction) and we want to kill scum, dear. Anything else? No point killing scum if you can't kill Lavos What's that got to do with being new and fluffy?
New and fluffy are harder to read and likely to make mistakes. If they prove themselves to be town and competent somehow: Wonderful. However if they fail to do that they need to go down before the end game. So far I don't ever see the dinosaur changing and so he's on my needs to die list.
Before you call me an easy target again I am including myself in the needs to die before end game list since I'm smurfing.
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On November 22 2012 02:40 syllogism wrote:
CaveJohnson who are you? It would be helpful to know in order to determine whether you should "know better" than to say some of the things you have said. Obviously the fact that you chose to use that account suggests that you don't want us to know, but if you are town it would be in your best interest to reconsider. I don't like your posts either, although the fact you said you don't want to be picked for the mission is slightly towny, depending on your reasoning, which I expect you to later reveal.
Revealing my identity would be so destructive that I may as well have been a scum member. Its not happening.
I'll explain the reasoning next cycle.
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On November 22 2012 02:49 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2012 02:47 CaveJohnson wrote:On November 22 2012 02:40 syllogism wrote:
CaveJohnson who are you? It would be helpful to know in order to determine whether you should "know better" than to say some of the things you have said. Obviously the fact that you chose to use that account suggests that you don't want us to know, but if you are town it would be in your best interest to reconsider. I don't like your posts either, although the fact you said you don't want to be picked for the mission is slightly towny, depending on your reasoning, which I expect you to later reveal. Revealing my identity would be so destructive that I may as well have been a scum member. Its not happening. I'll explain the reasoning next cycle. Right. In any case you have effectively made yourself completely useless and non-functional until you do so.
You know better than to ignore people as well.
Colour me disappointed.
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On November 22 2012 02:51 Acrofales wrote:
Cave, are you Drazerk?
Nope keep guessing
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On November 22 2012 02:56 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2012 02:53 CaveJohnson wrote:On November 22 2012 02:49 marvellosity wrote:On November 22 2012 02:47 CaveJohnson wrote:On November 22 2012 02:40 syllogism wrote:
CaveJohnson who are you? It would be helpful to know in order to determine whether you should "know better" than to say some of the things you have said. Obviously the fact that you chose to use that account suggests that you don't want us to know, but if you are town it would be in your best interest to reconsider. I don't like your posts either, although the fact you said you don't want to be picked for the mission is slightly towny, depending on your reasoning, which I expect you to later reveal. Revealing my identity would be so destructive that I may as well have been a scum member. Its not happening. I'll explain the reasoning next cycle. Right. In any case you have effectively made yourself completely useless and non-functional until you do so. You know better than to ignore people as well. Colour me disappointed. You are playing absolutely without a town agenda. In addition there is some promise for future explanation for your play. The current, likely explanation is that you're scum playing with a scum agenda. Until you start playing with the goal of killing scum and/or explain yourself, then yes you are effectively useless.
I play to win. You cannot win without an end game plan.
I gave no promise of explanations for my play (Nor will I ever) but an explanation to my role. Perhaps you should read the conversation before you speak.
Honestly you're moving up on the kill list rather quickly...
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On November 22 2012 03:02 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2012 03:00 CaveJohnson wrote:On November 22 2012 02:56 marvellosity wrote:On November 22 2012 02:53 CaveJohnson wrote:On November 22 2012 02:49 marvellosity wrote:On November 22 2012 02:47 CaveJohnson wrote:On November 22 2012 02:40 syllogism wrote:
CaveJohnson who are you? It would be helpful to know in order to determine whether you should "know better" than to say some of the things you have said. Obviously the fact that you chose to use that account suggests that you don't want us to know, but if you are town it would be in your best interest to reconsider. I don't like your posts either, although the fact you said you don't want to be picked for the mission is slightly towny, depending on your reasoning, which I expect you to later reveal. Revealing my identity would be so destructive that I may as well have been a scum member. Its not happening. I'll explain the reasoning next cycle. Right. In any case you have effectively made yourself completely useless and non-functional until you do so. You know better than to ignore people as well. Colour me disappointed. You are playing absolutely without a town agenda. In addition there is some promise for future explanation for your play. The current, likely explanation is that you're scum playing with a scum agenda. Until you start playing with the goal of killing scum and/or explain yourself, then yes you are effectively useless. I play to win. You cannot win without an end game plan. I gave no promise of explanations for my play (Nor will I ever) but an explanation to my role. Perhaps you should read the conversation before you speak. Honestly you're moving up on the kill list rather quickly... you're awfully patronising for someone who is clearly a weak player.
Your play so far speaks volumes to me as well
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On November 22 2012 03:13 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2012 03:10 Toadesstern wrote:On November 22 2012 03:04 Acrofales wrote:On November 22 2012 02:06 Toadesstern wrote:On November 22 2012 01:14 Acrofales wrote:On November 22 2012 00:36 Oatsmaster wrote:kush makes me want to shout at him in every single post... Ok for now, I think the party leader should be toadesstern because He started off his post with a scumread, which shows effort in reading the thread instead of mindlessly posting without actually analysing anything like almost every player so far. His posts look really sincere and his logic is spot on On November 21 2012 17:13 Toadesstern wrote:
Oh and I forgot: Yeah we need to find someone to send d1 and that's all nice and fine but I don't think it's a good way to keep the talk all focused on only that.
Faking townreads as mafias is incredibly easy. Faking mafiareads as mafia is something that takes effort. If we're only going to talk about who we're going to send d1 we're giving mafia an incredibly easy time skating by.
I know it feels counterintuitive as clearly the shortterm "goal" is to send a good guy d1 but I think we should try and balance those issues out. After all, the goal in the longrun is to figure people out and we won't be able to do that by playing nice all day long. His posts look really hard to fake for scum and because of his reputation as being imba, I am voting Toadesstern ##Vote: Toadsstern You clearly don't know toad at all. You don't even know toad's reputation. 1. Toad is notoriously hard to read. He posts giant walls of text that ramble on as either alignment and gets into hissyfits with whoever he feels like (most notoriously bugs and VE) as either alignment. 2. If he is imba, he is imba as scum, not so much as town. Personal opinion here, but I haven't seen toad make the difference as town. Unlike some other players in this game. Now on to the beef of your post: why exactly do you feel his posts are hard to fake as scum? What specific quality makes you lean town on him? So far I am seeing you park your vote in a similar manner to Keirathi, for a similar reason. Last time I had to gather people I was some sort of mason who get's to invite people each and every night to join his QT resulting in the QT growing in number every cycle and having an incredibly powerfull town-circle. I think I picked something like 5 townies straight without a problem at all, including people like WBG who are notoriously hard to read according to most people here. The only mistake I made was when I gambled in lategame as we had 2 Kenpachi-like people (real Kenpachi and someone like Kenpachi) who didn't play the game while not being able to get a read on Marv as well. I picked Marv because I figured that if neither of those 2 Kenpachis is mafia we've lost anyways because one of them will get lynched at some point and it already was lylo. So yeah I think I'm pretty decent when it comes to that as well. I agree I'm by no way the best scumhunter around and I'm mostly working by process of elimination but that's because I trust in my townreads so heavily and they're never wrong. So yeah I think I'm the right guy for the job. Not saying you're not. Just that I have reservations voting for you, and correcting the jubjubs as to your reputation. I've seen you play good as town. I've seen you play better as scum. I saw you are running and I like that. What makes you a better candidate than syllo or sandro? I don't think anyone in here can claim to be better than Syllo or sandro when it comes to reads if that's what you're asking. However unlike Syllo and Sandro I'm someone who's pretty talkactive and I will get people talking about reads. Syllo and Sandro both tend to be pretty lazy threadwise and I don't think that that's something we want for someone who's running for the d1 spot. I don't really see syllogism as lazy. Not his play so far anyway.
On November 21 2012 15:28 syllogism wrote:
Oh Sandro is here and posting quite a bit, I may re-evaluate my nomination if I like what I see as I would definitely prefer being as lazy as possible
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