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I'll be following this game for sure but I'm not taking the obs QT just in case I get a chance to replace ^^
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Djodref
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/replacement I'll be following this game for sure but I'm not taking the obs QT just in case I get a chance to replace ^^ | ||
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I'm really excited to join this game and I hope to give my best ^^ Shit what a crazy D1, I really regret for not having joined this game ASAP | ||
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GJ Hopeless | ||
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I'm quite sure Hope is not SK because it would have been totally dumb for a SK to kill such a scummy player when town is already at a good advantage. | ||
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I suspect Cross post and vote against BH to be WIFOM or an easy attempt to distance himself from his partner because a BH lynch was not happening D1 for sure. ##Vote Blazinghand | ||
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I don't think mafia would have roleblocked him because he's more likely to be an SK than JK in my eyes and mafia had great interest to let the SK do his job after a Bowser lynch on D1. So I think he is fake claiming to have been role blocked. And if you wait for a counter role block claim, it might never come because we have no idea if they are roleblockers in this game yet. | ||
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On November 16 2012 11:25 Clarity_nl wrote: His play is terrible, I agree. But no way he's scum. If he's SK that's fine, as long as he's not killing people at night. A JK claim as SK is still extremely unlikely in my eyes. The only reason marv considered it was because he retracted it, but he re-claimed. Why is there no way for him to be scum ? Given how disruptive his play is, I'm not going to discard totally this possibility. | ||
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I'm replacing thrawn. I guess marv was referring to thrawn play in Acme which was not really looking like its usual tow. Play as well. Why are you opposed to a BH lynch ? | ||
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Hopeless is as close as possible to be a confirmed vig. I have played with him in Looney and I don't feel him being very different from the town Hopeless I know. His breadcrumbs make sense and I don't see the SK wanting to shot one more scummy player after bowser lynch on D1. Town reads on zbo and DP confirmed by the fact that they were likely to be mislynches pushed by the mafia. Slight town reads on Clarity and debears because I know them both quite well and I didn't get bad vibes from their posts so far. Newbie town read on Kickstart. I didn’t look into his filter much because. So I usually get good reads on newbies | ||
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I have to look again at S&B again though... Anyway I don't see how we can loose this game now so I would almost expect the last scum to concede now. | ||
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On November 16 2012 13:30 DarthPunk wrote: we are not lynching blazing hand in the foreseeable future. Ok, I'll try to convince you that we should lynch him today anyway. | ||
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I don't see why the last scum would have also been on your wagon. Could you elaborate ? | ||
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On November 15 2012 11:00 Dandel Ion wrote: Final Votecount: DarthPunk (1): thrawn2112 Z-BosoN (5): Clarity_nl, marvellosity, Crossfire99, strongandbig, Hapahauli debears (1): Hopeless1der Hapahauli (6): Z-BosoN, Blazinghand, debears, iamperfection, Kickstart, DarthPunk Hapahauli has been lynched! [b]@ Z-BosoN Your last post at the attention of DarthPunk has reinforced my town read on you. When I look at the votes with the information we have at our disposition right now, it's difficult for me to believe that all the scumteam was stacked on your back, especially when you look at the votes one hour before the lynch. On November 15 2012 10:55 Dandel Ion wrote: [blue]votecount: DarthPunk (2): thrawn2112, Kickstart Z-BosoN (8): Clarity_nl, marvellosity, DarthPunk, Crossfire99, Blazinghand, strongandbig, iamperfection, Hapahauli debears (1): Hopeless1der Hopeless (2): Z-BosoN, debears [blue]Currently, Z-BosoN is set to be lynched! Why would all the scumteam vote against you when you have a minimum of 5 town votes against you ? Having 2 confirmed mafia players against you makes me think you were certainly a mislynch pushed by the mafia. But the fact that you had a total of 8 votes one hour before the lynch leads me to think that the mafia could have seen it as a done deal. That's why I think that one vote transfer against Hapahauli in the last hour before the lynch could have been done by the last scum (I think BH) because there was [b]no risk at all to cast his vote on Hapa in an attempt to distance himself. Nobody could have foresaw this outcome so I'm not going to take any of the votes against Hapa as a towntell, especially the early non committing ones, at the exception of the hammer from DarthPunk. | ||
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On November 16 2012 15:17 Blazinghand wrote: Take a look at the timestamps on those votes, Djodref-- they were all made within the span of the last couple of minutes before the lynch. Nobody knew how many votes where on anyone else and we were getting hit with flood control. Everyone on the Hapa wagon was town. My bad, I've fucked up while reading the timestamps. So we have 8 votes against Z-Bo at 5 minutes before the lynch so it just reinforces the fact that it looked like a sealed deal for almost everyone. On November 15 2012 10:55 Dandel Ion wrote: votecount: DarthPunk (2): thrawn2112, Kickstart Z-BosoN (8): Clarity_nl, marvellosity, DarthPunk, Crossfire99, Blazinghand, strongandbig, iamperfection, Hapahauli debears (1): Hopeless1der Hopeless (2): Z-BosoN, debears [blue]Currently, Z-BosoN is set to be lynched! <snip> Nevertheless, I cannot explain myself your votes before the lynch. You clearly vote against Hapa, which is the same vote as Z-Bo, who you think is scum !! I don't see any town logic for you to switch from Z-Bo to Hapa. The mafia motivations I see for this are:
On November 15 2012 10:46 Blazinghand wrote: ._. curse you DP for casting doubt into my heart. I'll just shoot you tonight with all my vigi bullets then ##unvote ##vote ZB On November 15 2012 10:56 Z-BosoN wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote hapahauli Is what I meant. On November 15 2012 10:56 Blazinghand wrote: You know what, fuck it, let's vote him. I'll go back to ZB if need be. ##unvote ##vote: Hapa | ||
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On November 16 2012 15:19 Blazinghand wrote: And like, I'm an uncontested blue claim in a way that makes no sense for scum, and I voted for and lynched Hapa. I really don't get why you're so stuck on me-- clearly you're just wrong, because nobody's being convinced. If you think SnB is town, that's fine, but make a case on someone other than me. I'm not getting lynched and honestly you're wasting your time and ours with this stuff. I'll spend my time the way I want and I'll write a case against you because I think it is worth it. I don't have any lessons to receive from you because you have clearly made people waste a lot of time on your filter... And I think I know why your claim is uncontested (I'll put everything in my case when I come back home tonight), and I don't care if it makes no sense for scum to play like you when you are playing in a way that makes even less sense for town. | ||
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On November 16 2012 16:04 Blazinghand wrote: Like at the very least, talk about other people in addition to talking about me cause right now I can't get a read on you other than "shitty" If you were really reading the thread, which I doubt you do, you could have noticed this post already. On November 16 2012 13:20 Djodref wrote: Let me start with some quick post about my town reads. Hopeless is as close as possible to be a confirmed vig. I have played with him in Looney and I don't feel him being very different from the town Hopeless I know. His breadcrumbs make sense and I don't see the SK wanting to shot one more scummy player after bowser lynch on D1. Town reads on zbo and DP confirmed by the fact that they were likely to be mislynches pushed by the mafia. Slight town reads on Clarity and debears because I know them both quite well and I didn't get bad vibes from their posts so far. Newbie town read on Kickstart. I didn’t look into his filter much because I usually get good reads on newbies | ||
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On November 16 2012 16:12 debears wrote: I agree with BH Djo. Why the fuck would the mafia lynch the godfather and their best player on day 1 with a last minute voteswing when they could easily stay on z-bo? The thing is it was really safe for a csum BH to switch to Hapa with 8 votes against Z-bo at 5 minutes before lynch. | ||
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First things first, BH play is not town-like. Could we at least agree on this one ? Secondly, when you look at C9++, from which the setup of our game is derived from, the roles of the mafia team are given after that the roles for the town are decided. So the mafia team have more info than us about the roles. My point is that for a goon, goon, GF scumteam, it is not so risky for a troll goon to claim JK, as it is less likely to have a real JK. Thirdly, voting against Hapa could have been a soft bus vote rather than a real bus vote because a Hapa lynch was unlikely to happen. Nobody could have foresaw it, especially with the Kickstart switch coming from nowhere. | ||
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