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[Interview] OSL Match for 3rd/4th Place

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wozzot
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1227 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-20 14:36:15
October 20 2012 10:43 GMT
#1
(P)SK_MC

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How does it feel to manage to make an astonishing comeback?

Once I was at 0-3, I was motivated to keep playing not by a desire to take the series, but to win at least a single set. After finally taking the win, though, I feel great.

How did you end up in a 0-3 situation?

I prepared to play macro games at first, but during the first set, I lost my focus and lost after my Sentries were destroyed. During the second set, I lost because I built my Robotics Facility too late. During the third set, I became overconfident. From the fourth set onwards, I contemplated the reasons that I had lost, and I decided to return to playing the aggressive style that has often worked for me so well.

In the second set, you lost after your Robotics Facility was too late.

On the first set on Ohana, I lost my Robotics after I built it, but during the second set, I couldn't even manage to get it up (laughs). I was very dismayed, and I think I misclicked during that game.

Around when did you think that you would be able to take the series?

After I won the fifth game, I started feeling that it could be possible, and after the sixth set, those feelings grew stronger. I believed that I had secured my victory once I successfully hit my opponent's natural during the final game.

We would like to hear your feelings about your semifinal match.

I thought that I was sure to win the first set, but I ended up losing anyway. I had prepared an enormous amount for that game, so losing dealt a great blow to me. During the other games, DongRaeGu was able to counter my play very well because of how well he knew my style. I lost because I was lazy and only bothered to prepare against his old style that I had seen before.

Is there no way for Protosses to counter a Brood Lord-Infestor army composition?

At the moment, I don't think there's any particular solution. No matter what unit composition that Protoss uses, it's impossible to beat Brood-Infestor. The proper answer is supposed to be the Carrier, but those are too easily defeated by Fungal Growth. I once talked to David Kim about this, and even he said that he doesn't think there's a counter in Wings of Liberty (laughs). I don't know how things will be in Heart of the Swarm. Even looking at it myself, I don't think there's a proper way to fix the problem because there's a risk of weakening Zerg too much.

How do you predict that the final match between DongRaeGu and Rain will go?

If he is able to show off some revolutionary PvZ as Bisu did in the past, I think Rain will win, but otherwise, I think he will fall to Brood-Infestor. It's important to search for a timing before Zerg is able to set up that unit composition, but because Zergs are too sharp nowadays and are aware that losing against Protoss is difficult once ZvP reaches the late game, it's hard to find a successful timing anymore.

We're curious to hear your thoughts about participating in this OSL.

Initially, I had thought of the OSL as a battle between the eSF and KeSPA players. But by the time that I reached the Round of 4, all of that became irrelevant and the league turned into a pure contest of skill, so I think that the OSL ended on a high note for me. Back during the group nominations, there was a slight atmosphere of hostility between the eSF and KeSPA players, but after witnessing how quickly the KeSPA players' skills improved, we began to show more respect for them. Although I unfortunately wasn't able to advance to the finals, since I managed to show good results and reach third place, I feel satisfied.

You'll be playing in the GSL Up-and-Downs next week.

I'm glad that there aren't many Zergs in my group. Recently, I've begun liking PvP a lot. My win rate during practice in my matchup against Protoss has been quite high. Since I've already had previous experience advancing through the Up-and-Downs, I want to make sure that I remain in Code S.

Do you have anything more that you would like to say?

I think that Last will feel crushed after losing in reverse-sweeps twice in a row, so I would like it if he stayed strong. My girlfriend was unable to come with me today due to work, but I'm happy that I was still able to win. I want to send my thanks to my manager, reis, in addition to my mother and my team's sponsors. Finally, I want to thank all of my fans who have always cheered for me.
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Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-20 10:45:50
October 20 2012 10:45 GMT
#2
OSL have 3rd place match now?
Edit: thanks for translation
Believing in what lies ahead. | That which we call a rose, by any other name would smell as sweet.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
October 20 2012 10:46 GMT
#3
On October 20 2012 19:45 Shana wrote:
OSL have 3rd place match now?
Edit: thanks for translation

It's to decide who gets a seed into the next season.

Thanks for the translation!
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 20 2012 10:48 GMT
#4
As happy as I am to see MC take 3rd I'm so sad for last it's one thing to lose one BO7 being 3 up it's another to do it twice in a row.
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HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
October 20 2012 10:56 GMT
#5
On October 20 2012 19:48 Fusilero wrote:
As happy as I am to see MC take 3rd I'm so sad for last it's one thing to lose one BO7 being 3 up it's another to do it twice in a row.

bigger question is how the fuck he managed to throw so hard twice then
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 20 2012 10:58 GMT
#6
On October 20 2012 19:56 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 19:48 Fusilero wrote:
As happy as I am to see MC take 3rd I'm so sad for last it's one thing to lose one BO7 being 3 up it's another to do it twice in a row.

bigger question is how the fuck he managed to throw so hard twice then

He had a great set of builds and timings against rain but for some reason stopped doing them and got beat up not sure about MC.
Glorious SEA doto
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
October 20 2012 11:01 GMT
#7
On October 20 2012 19:48 Fusilero wrote:
As happy as I am to see MC take 3rd I'm so sad for last it's one thing to lose one BO7 being 3 up it's another to do it twice in a row.


Poor Last. His SC2 career has only just gotten started but unless he wins a GSL/OSL he'll always be known as the guy who lost from being up 3-0 twice.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-20 11:04:19
October 20 2012 11:02 GMT
#8
That must have been an all time record from Last. Losing two Bo7 in a row after leading 3-0.... Funny enough, he beat Flash 3-2 before after being behind with 0-2.

Completely missed the OSL today and one game of the GSL finals. Didn't realize those games were scheduled earlier than usual.

Must have been epic as well, so congrats MC!
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
October 20 2012 11:03 GMT
#9
On October 20 2012 20:01 red4ce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 19:48 Fusilero wrote:
As happy as I am to see MC take 3rd I'm so sad for last it's one thing to lose one BO7 being 3 up it's another to do it twice in a row.


Poor Last. His SC2 career has only just gotten started but unless he wins a GSL/OSL he'll always be known as the guy who lost from being up 3-0 twice.


Funny thing is, three weeks ago, he was the known as the player who came back when 0-2 against Flash in an OSL. Things can turn so quickly.
Weirdkid
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore2431 Posts
October 20 2012 11:03 GMT
#10
On October 20 2012 20:01 red4ce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 19:48 Fusilero wrote:
As happy as I am to see MC take 3rd I'm so sad for last it's one thing to lose one BO7 being 3 up it's another to do it twice in a row.


Poor Last. His SC2 career has only just gotten started but unless he wins a GSL/OSL he'll always be known as the guy who lost from being up 3-0 twice.


Hahahaha we need a term for having a tendency to be reverse-killed. Something similar to "Kong" for the second placers.
"Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself." - Proverbs 26:4
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 20 2012 11:04 GMT
#11
On October 20 2012 20:03 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 20:01 red4ce wrote:
On October 20 2012 19:48 Fusilero wrote:
As happy as I am to see MC take 3rd I'm so sad for last it's one thing to lose one BO7 being 3 up it's another to do it twice in a row.


Poor Last. His SC2 career has only just gotten started but unless he wins a GSL/OSL he'll always be known as the guy who lost from being up 3-0 twice.


Funny thing is, three weeks ago, he was the known as the player who came back when 0-2 against Flash in an OSL. Things can turn so quickly.

Last started out as some STX b-teamer, then he kind of became their ace as he managed to avoid zerg for a long time while bogus kept getting terrans now in SC2 he's the guy who got reverse swept twice poor kid his career is such a roller coaster.
Glorious SEA doto
Salient
Profile Joined August 2011
United States876 Posts
October 20 2012 11:15 GMT
#12
Are there VODs for these games? I can't find them.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
October 20 2012 11:27 GMT
#13
Man, up 3-0 and losing twice in a row. Ouch.
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ThePrince
Profile Joined October 2010
Peru331 Posts
October 21 2012 06:51 GMT
#14

Thanks for translation man.
SK_MC, ST_Parting, STX_Bogus fighting!!! Colossi should shoot nukes and blink.
eleaf
Profile Joined September 2011
526 Posts
October 21 2012 06:54 GMT
#15
LAST the king of BO5 yet evil OGN changed their OSL format to BO7.
SamirDuran
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines894 Posts
October 21 2012 07:04 GMT
#16
On October 21 2012 15:54 eleaf wrote:
LAST the king of BO5 yet evil OGN changed their OSL format to BO7.

because sc2 matches are so short...
Don't practice until you can get it right, practice until you can't get it wrong.
Jmanthedragonguy
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada1202 Posts
October 21 2012 07:08 GMT
#17
I like MC's attitude. He's entertaining but he show's respect where it's due.
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-21 08:43:33
October 21 2012 08:42 GMT
#18
GoGo BronzeToss!

I like his response to going 0-3.
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SC2ShoWTimE
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany722 Posts
October 21 2012 09:11 GMT
#19
"If he is able to show off some revolutionary PvZ as Bisu did in the past, I think Rain will win,"

this would be awesome, but i doubt it. i think rain will hit some strong timing attacks. also, lol@david kim :D

must be pretty hard for last to lose 2 times like this but gratz to mc.
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DreamOen
Profile Joined March 2010
Spain1400 Posts
October 21 2012 11:15 GMT
#20
Great interview, and even david kim assumes that there is no solution vs bl-infestor , but well we have HoTs coming to fix it.
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