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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
September 30 2012 02:08 GMT
#67
sup the perfect one graces you with his presence.

Ive been glancing through the previous aperture game and it doesn't seem very relevant to me. Much different player size wise and in that op it mentioned things about items and i don't see that in this op. So im going to assume that there are no items.

Otherwise i'm going to differ to the more exp players in speculating the setup because i really have no clue what it is and i also think for right now its not very relevant. I think for day 1 are best course of action is to proceed as a normal game and just try to find scum as best as possible and i think if waste to much time talking about setup is exactly what the scum want.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
September 30 2012 02:37 GMT
#71
On September 30 2012 11:36 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2012 11:31 HiroPro wrote:
Since when is saying "i'm town" alignment-indicative?

It's not necessarily alignment indicative. That doesn't mean that it can't be alignment indicative.

I caught scum in Newbie XIX for saying "Hey guys, I'm town!" like 100 times throughout the thread.

was mattchew one of those players........................................................?
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
September 30 2012 20:43 GMT
#133
On October 01 2012 04:22 ghost_403 wrote:
I'm pretty happy lynching Keirathi right now. He's putting way too much effort into scumhunting on Day 1 to build up towncred. Looking through previous filters when there's been, what, twenty posts in this game? No, that's not something that townies do. I vote we lynch him today, and mementoss tomorrow. WHO'S WITH ME.

##vote keirathi

We are seriously going to allow this crap? Ive played about 6 games of tl mafia and this is the biggest pile of crap ive seen yet.

## Vote ghost_403
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
September 30 2012 23:53 GMT
#165
@ memen why did you not include strongandbig when you mentioned that i did not include anything of "value" yet.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
October 01 2012 00:27 GMT
#173
On October 01 2012 09:06 Drazerk wrote:
ALL

CTR F

Victory

oh wow thanks
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
October 01 2012 13:20 GMT
#201
On October 01 2012 20:28 Mementoss wrote:
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On October 01 2012 08:53 iamperfection wrote:
@ memen why did you not include strongandbig when you mentioned that i did not include anything of "value" yet.


Because the difference between you and him at that point was you were active at 3 different occasions in the thread and chose not to say anything. S&B was active at the very start of the game, and then never posted, theres a difference I consider that inactive. Anyways, needless to say, I really disagree on the meta arguement that you are town, by their point, it would seem that you are fitting your scum play. At least when you posted in Rockband mini you had a purpose and you're one liners had something to do with the important discussion in town.

Here is the quote im referring to:

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On October 01 2012 14:35 Keirathi wrote:
On October 01 2012 14:33 strongandbig wrote:
oh also keirathi i think you said you have a slight meta-based townread on iamperfection, could you tell us about his meta in your opinion? if you didn't say this then whoever did say this pls answer that question but i think it was keirathi.

It was me. I've played with scum iamperfection in a newbie game a couple months ago, and observed a few of his recent townie games. In his townie games he is cocky, while in his scum game he was careful and lurky. I know it was a while ago, and that doesn't necessarily mean he wouldn't be cocky if he rolled scum again if he was more confident in his play, but my initial read was town.


His play sure looks careful and lurker to me. Compare to this game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369250 where he is pretty agressive and constantly active throguhout the discussion from the get go.

##Unvote: Austinmcc
##Vote: Iamperfection

its not my fault no one seems to give a fuck about ghost. Guy comes into the thread makes the worst case i have ever seen.

Let me break it down how it looks from my perspective the sequence of events.

Keirathi makes shitty case. (i thought it was shitty at the time)
Keirathi explains what he was trying to accomplish fairly well.
Ghost enters thread
Ghost says keirathi is scum because he is trying to hard (wtf)
Ghost say hiro is town because hiro is to dumb(wtf)
Ghost abandons thread.

Can someone explain to me how the fuck ghost can be town (preferably ghost)

I see no town motivation in the way ghost is acting and i think he just tried to act stupid on purpose and skate by day 1 by using the stupid "oh scum would never act that dumb" argument.

ghost is scum in my eyes.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
October 01 2012 14:34 GMT
#204
On October 01 2012 23:24 gonzaw wrote:
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On October 01 2012 22:20 iamperfection wrote:
On October 01 2012 20:28 Mementoss wrote:
On October 01 2012 08:53 iamperfection wrote:
@ memen why did you not include strongandbig when you mentioned that i did not include anything of "value" yet.


Because the difference between you and him at that point was you were active at 3 different occasions in the thread and chose not to say anything. S&B was active at the very start of the game, and then never posted, theres a difference I consider that inactive. Anyways, needless to say, I really disagree on the meta arguement that you are town, by their point, it would seem that you are fitting your scum play. At least when you posted in Rockband mini you had a purpose and you're one liners had something to do with the important discussion in town.

Here is the quote im referring to:

On October 01 2012 14:35 Keirathi wrote:
On October 01 2012 14:33 strongandbig wrote:
oh also keirathi i think you said you have a slight meta-based townread on iamperfection, could you tell us about his meta in your opinion? if you didn't say this then whoever did say this pls answer that question but i think it was keirathi.

It was me. I've played with scum iamperfection in a newbie game a couple months ago, and observed a few of his recent townie games. In his townie games he is cocky, while in his scum game he was careful and lurky. I know it was a while ago, and that doesn't necessarily mean he wouldn't be cocky if he rolled scum again if he was more confident in his play, but my initial read was town.


His play sure looks careful and lurker to me. Compare to this game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369250 where he is pretty agressive and constantly active throguhout the discussion from the get go.

##Unvote: Austinmcc
##Vote: Iamperfection

its not my fault no one seems to give a fuck about ghost. Guy comes into the thread makes the worst case i have ever seen.

Let me break it down how it looks from my perspective the sequence of events.

Keirathi makes shitty case. (i thought it was shitty at the time)
Keirathi explains what he was trying to accomplish fairly well.
Ghost enters thread
Ghost says keirathi is scum because he is trying to hard (wtf)
Ghost say hiro is town because hiro is to dumb(wtf)
Ghost abandons thread.

Can someone explain to me how the fuck ghost can be town (preferably ghost)

I see no town motivation in the way ghost is acting and i think he just tried to act stupid on purpose and skate by day 1 by using the stupid "oh scum would never act that dumb" argument.

ghost is scum in my eyes.


Voting ghost is too easy.

I can easily find both scum and town motivation behind his actions, here:

Scum motivation:
-Create confusion with a terrible vote
-Act "arrogant" to avoid doing anything productive and get away with it
-Maybe use that "oh scum would never act that dumb" argument to skate by later

Town motivation:
-Thinks he's rough and all awesome and dandy and is trying to appear "cool" by using those "fuck you scum I don't care" attitudes many "vets" use in D1 hoping people go "oh ghost you are so awesome! I'm going to sheep you all game now" or something
-He's trolling and doesn't really care since it's the beginning of D1
-Like said before, he doesn't care and is just spouting anything that comes to his mind, whatever it is, without proof-reading or analyzing it before posting it

I can see why someone would vote for him and why you would vote for him, but something doesn't fit.
His "Hiro is town" post doesn't strike to me as scum at all. I don't think scum would call someone town out of nowhere without any scum motivation behind like the way he did, at least not in how I expect ghost to behave like scum.

He could still be scum for all I know, but I'd prefer we have some discussion behind it instead of going "ghost is dumb, lynch him".

For instance iamperfection, what do you think of the above?

His think about hiro reminds me of palmar from rockband just saying someone is town without giving a reason.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
October 01 2012 14:34 GMT
#205
ebwop thing
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
October 01 2012 14:38 GMT
#206
if you don't give reasoning behind why you think what you think you can play it off any way you want thats why ghost is scum.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
October 01 2012 17:33 GMT
#263
@ JINGLE

Why do you have to feel you have to change your style if you are town? In the game i played with you i thought you played quite well and we did catch 1 scum because of mainly all of your effort. Was it just because of one bad performance?
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
October 01 2012 17:51 GMT
#269
On October 02 2012 02:46 JingleHell wrote:
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On October 02 2012 02:33 iamperfection wrote:
@ JINGLE

Why do you have to feel you have to change your style if you are town? In the game i played with you i thought you played quite well and we did catch 1 scum because of mainly all of your effort. Was it just because of one bad performance?


Have you tried reading the thread, or my filter, to find the answer to that question? It's in there.

i did read it. my point is who gives a shit if you had one bad game. It takes a village and i find it strange you would completly change your style just because of that.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
October 13 2012 04:12 GMT
#1884
On October 13 2012 03:43 HiroPro wrote:
I didn't intend for perfection to die there. But perfection posted in our qt like an hour after I did that saying that he had to go to the hospital.

So he couldn't defend himself and he couldn't move his vote. Not possible to save someone in that situation. If he had come back and given a defense, I would probably have backed off.

its is true.

and now im getting a root canal too my body is falling apart.

TT
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