EPTI'm going to play in a non-scummy manner this game.
You have all been warned.
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mkfuba07
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I'm going to play in a non-scummy manner this game. You have all been warned. | ||
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To elaborate a bit more on what I'm changing about my play (which I know I probably should have mentioned beforehand), I'm going to be posting more off the top of my head, without spending hours thinking about my posts and ultimately deciding not to post anything. Hopefully this will result in more posts, giving more insight into what I'm thinking. I'm mentioning this because (hopefully) this will be different than my previous meta, and it'll be easier to address it now than later. Aside from the trolling thing, which he said he was going to do before the game started, Shady just seems like Shady to me. On September 30 2012 20:03 kushm4sta wrote: I voted for shady because he called me a troll. There is no one better to vote for atm. I might as well vote for someone who was mean to me and has a history of being mean to me. Also I'm not a fan of his content. What exactly don't you like about his content? So far your vote seems pretty empty. | ||
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On October 01 2012 11:13 Keirathi wrote: I thought you were going to be posting more? Friend visited from out of town for my birthday, so I've been out for a while. All that's really stuck out to me was the Kei + KJ interaction, as well as Shady's trolling explanation. I thought I found some inconsistencies with how Shady had played in the past, but it turned out that I was confusing him with another player in my first game. Since he posted his intent to "troll" before the game started, I'm not ready to use it as a reason to vote for him. His votes and reads seem a bit off to me as well, but I know from my experience with him that I almost always disagree with his early D1 reads. I kind of have a personal "no vote for shady until D2" policy (unless he still seems scummy to me and it will avoid a no-lynch). That leaves me with KJ. So far he's talked a lot without saying very much. He's pointed a few fingers and then quickly pulled them away. I believe it's understood that any D1 scumreads are going to be pretty weak (except in specific cases) but he seems to be placing more emphasis on the fact that he's not calling someone out than the fact that someone or something is scummy/suspicious. So my vote's going to fall on him. ##Vote kingjames01 | ||
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Like marv I may have to reconsider KJ. If he's bound to give himself away with his actions pretty quickly, then I can wait it out. I never found his "spy slip" scummy, just his interaction with Kei where he seemed to be implying that Kei was scummy, only to follow it up by saying he didn't say that. It could be considered as an accusation and distancing, but it could just be statement of facts as he saw them. My problem is that I'm not sure about voting for kush or shady. I'm not a fan of how either of them are playing, but I don't necessarily get scum from them. Shady is being incredibly strange with his absence, but that's not in keeping with either his town or scum metas. I didn't like Kush's policy lynch because "shady was mean to me", but that also doesn't tell me anything about his alignment. I'm going to take a look at austin. I'll also probably think a bit about mementoss, just 'cause. | ||
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On October 01 2012 00:29 austinmcc wrote: Man I missed a fun night. Maybe I need to read some past games of kush's, but this didn't seem as scummy to me as it does to others. Poor reason to vote, sure, but he could have just voted based on "wtf is shady doing/I don't buy this" and not looked odd. Don't see any reason to make himself this visible as scum with a sillyvote when a real explanation is easily at hand. + Show Spoiler + I think we should lynch BM24... On September 29 2012 10:37 BlackMamba24 wrote: game will start with a 24 hr night 0 by the way You'd think that since it was such a "fun night" he would have a lot to comment on, but for over 24 hours all he mentions is how something kush has said isn't as scummy as some people apparently find it. After that he gets trapped in spy-slip land, when that issue can be resolved by reading the OP. He's posted a lot (comparatively) and yet has said little except that he didn't find kush too scummy hours ago. Not sure if scummy or just busy+confused... | ||
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##Vote austinmcc I'm not sure if this is where my vote will stay, but it's the one I'm most confident in at the moment. | ||
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Austin's posts since returning have made me throw that vote out the window. As for Node's posting frequency, I don't see that as much different than his behavior in DN mafia... Does he normally contribute more? As for his content, I see the slight "lie" but I can see no reason to intentionally "lie" like that as scum. What would he gain? Of the two on the block right now, I'd rather vote for Shady. As I said before, I'm not naturally inclined to vote for him D1, but I don't want to vote for someone who I haven't seen anything scummy from. While I didn't see his excuse for trolling as terribly scummy, and I believe his absence could be explained somehow, the fact that he hasn't done it or actively participated in any way since his last post makes me want him gone. ##Vote Shady Sands | ||
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I'm going to change my vote again. If we can get a better replacement for Shady I think keeping him in is going to be better than keeping Node in. I got completely screwed in DN Mafia because it was down to Node, myself, another pretty inactive player, and scum marv, and there was no discussion. I don't want to be in that situation again. Not sure if this will do anything, but: ##Unvote ##Vote Node | ||
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On October 02 2012 13:06 Risen wrote: Rofl. Yeah, I know. | ||
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On October 02 2012 13:31 annul wrote: i will lynch green 100% of the time IF doing so will net us multiple reds. lol So did this net us multiple reds? | ||
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On October 03 2012 04:30 austinmcc wrote: I'm still feeling really stupid for not being able to understand what's so scummy about Node's defense of Shady. There were plenty of good players voting for Node, and as town OR scum I don't see them voting for someone for stupid reasons. Despite what you've said before, I have been reading the thread. My reading comprehension being as crappy as it is, I can't pinpoint what makes his defense scummy. Did scum Node gain something from lying in his defense of Shady? Or was it just that he appeared to not be reading the thread, and is trying to participate with a minimum of effort/gaining some town-cred for defending town-Shady? Or something else entirely that I haven't considered because I'm bad at this game?mkfuba, what is your read on Node? How do you view annul's actions before the lynch? ...(checking through filters)... ...And now, having more closely checked the the timestamps, which I incorrectly read last time, Node's jumped up quite a bit in scumminess. When I looked the first time, I missed the fact that the two posts (shady's last post where he actually made a read at all, and Node's defense) were on different days. I thought Node's happened within hours of Shady's FoS on kush, so I didn't really see it as too absurd for him to say that Shady had been pushing targets. I think I now understand why the defense was scummy (and I feel like a dumbass for not being able to read). Shady did nothing to warrant defending him, and the fact that Node defended him, with evidence that was the opposite of the truth, is strange. The fact that Node seemed to have reasons to find Shady town when the evidence he provides is contrived makes me think that he had another reason to believe Shady to be town that he didn't want to mention. Thus, Node seems scummy. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this feels right to me. As for annul, at the time I was generally agreeing with much of what he said. I felt that the lynch on Node had arisen too quickly, and with poor-quality evidence, to not have been some kind of concerted effort. I find his attempt to start yet another wagon without providing reasoning for it at least slightly scummy, though if he didn't find either Shady or Node scummy then I'm not sure I'd fault him for voting for someone outside those two. The way he went about it, however, was pretty questionable. I'm going to have to reevaluate annul's play before the lynch with this new perspective I've gained regarding Node. Let me know if I was completely off about Node, so I won't continue being completely off about annul. Also, I'm going to try to save us some time with a side note about myself: I'm generally wishy-washy. It's just how I am. I can read my own writing and see the indecision, but I can't give a more definitive answer. This is consistent throughout most, if not all, of my early games. I only truly become confident after I get concrete evidence through votes/flips, and I've only gotten that far a few times. I mention all of this because if I'm not being wishy-washy I either don't post or I lie to embellish how confident I am. Both of which seem more useless/dangerous than just posting my thoughts, so I'm just going to post what I think. | ||
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