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Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
September 29 2012 19:31 GMT
#57
mightaswell

/in
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
September 30 2012 15:41 GMT
#151
this started quicker than expected

i never played a game with clues, but obviously use them they are there to help

i never played a game starting with a night, doesn't this mean that voting people is useless?

shady sands trolling isn't indicative of his alignment but im happy he is going to try and be useful. VE's vote doesn't make any sense to me, neither does kush's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
October 01 2012 11:43 GMT
#277
On October 01 2012 13:18 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2012 13:08 mkfuba07 wrote:
I feel like I'm missing something significant here...


He's a lynch I can feel good about even if he flips green.


##Vote: Kushm4sta

Pretty self explanatory.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
October 01 2012 12:38 GMT
#282
On October 01 2012 21:34 kushm4sta wrote:
lynching someone you don't think is scum is common. it's called a policy lynch. also no one who I want to lynch is getting lynched, so I might as well join this bandwagon because I don't like shady 's play


Who did you actually want to lynch that supposedly is not getting lynched? You never really pushed anyone very hard so, it's not like you even attempted to do the leg work on getting anyone lynched other than joining the shadywagon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
October 01 2012 18:59 GMT
#347
I don't think the spy thing is a slip at all either. Especially since there is no mention of spies anywhere in OP role list.

@kingjames, your completely right that my filter and effort so far is pretty shit. But I don't see why you would chose me over the 10 other people who has like 3-5 posts with minimal substance.

Can you give us a scum read with a better more fleshed out explanation that can be discussed and cause some sort of additional discussion?

As per marvs / others point on Kushs meta im going to
##Unvote
As it seems he doesn't make any sense regardless of alignment and has shown similar thoughts and logic loops in other games.

When is the deadline? 7.5 hours? I won't be making any lynch deadlines if thats the case.

I will have to re look through for a good lynch target.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
October 01 2012 22:31 GMT
#401
Im going to placeholder vote on shadysands, and then wash the dishes then read the game,so many lurkers (me included) day 1. I'll see what I can dig up tho.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
October 01 2012 23:33 GMT
#428
Alright lets go through the current vote candidates:

Shady Sands:

I put a placeholder vote on shady because he is the best lynch candidate currently being voted for in my opinion. He did his trolling thing, which can't be indicative of alignment because it was said Pre PM, however people could do this for an out as scum. His whole trolling explanation seems a bit off, but similar "plans" have been done as town before. The real problem is how he says "I am back in the thread gotta read" Then basically defends himself, and says "see kush troll and leaves"
One of his votes was done in troll mode, and the other was because Zboson voted him for trolling. He hasn't given a read or posted since.

However, he never actually voted in vote thread so is on schedule to be modkilled.

kingjames01:

I feel like a lot of the case on him was based on people saying he slipped spy. Not only is this role not in the role list, he further explained himself from evidence from another thread. The fact that so many people voting him without even checking the setup or just being ignorant to the fact makes me think he is town. He got caught up defending himself on the whole contrived bit, which was stupid, but why would scum spend so much time obviously posting about nothing to explain themselves. He called me out, and hell I would have too because I usual am much more active day 1, and wasn't at the time.

kushm4sta:

Originally thought he was scum, but after this post:

On October 01 2012 23:33 marvellosity wrote:
kush as townie:

Show nested quote +
On September 03 2012 18:47 kushm4sta wrote:
So it seems like the consensus is to lynch either cubu or kville. Anyone not feel this way?
Even if they aren't mafia they are solid policy lynches.
Now the question is which one.
Kville is the bigger lurker, but I think there is a higher possibility for cubu to actually be mafia.
Honestly cubu probably isn't mafia either, just because I think mafia would put more effort into their posts. Lynching one of these guys is better than lynching someone who is active though. So my vote is still on cubu.


Will vote for policy lynches just fine, check
Calls Cubu probably not mafia but is happy to have his vote on him, check


He also admitted he doesn't give a shit about logic, which shows in almost all of his posts. Another one of those players I guess.

VisceraEyes:

Making cases on multiple people and all over the place. Seems like typical day 1 VE to me.

Now to search for scum since shady sands most likely will be modkilled.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
October 02 2012 23:51 GMT
#769
guys good news, I am dead in my other game so I will be putting effort into this one. But now, sleep.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
October 02 2012 23:59 GMT
#773
On October 03 2012 08:54 mkfuba07 wrote:
I don't like that mementoss shows up, reiterates a bunch of things that others have said, then parks his vote on someone who is undeniably not being helpful. He then disappears for over a day after saying he was going to search for scum. He also points out that kush wasn't doing anything to push his scumreads and then joins the shadywagon. Then he does pretty much the same thing. Leaning scum.


I agree, I pretty much skimmed the thread, and wasn't helpful. I will catch up on the last 15 pages. I will hopefully make it up to the town by doing my best to catch the whole scum team day 2, or at least provoke some good discussion that will allow the players better than me to do so.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
October 03 2012 14:20 GMT
#901
On October 03 2012 23:18 austinmcc wrote:
Okay I was definitely hit last night. Thanks for the prot.


How do you know this? If its not beneficial to me or the town don't answer.

Lol marv

##Vote: Marvellosity
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
October 03 2012 19:47 GMT
#970
On October 04 2012 04:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
That is the single most amusing outing of a scum I have seen since A RNG shot toad a few games ago. Shitty that you were punished for bad play Marv, but well, if it makes you feel any worse.... I survived your shot. Thank you magical man who saved my life, as I didn't want to die again before day 2.


Why do you think marv shot you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
October 03 2012 19:53 GMT
#972
On October 04 2012 04:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 04:47 Mementoss wrote:
On October 04 2012 04:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
That is the single most amusing outing of a scum I have seen since A RNG shot toad a few games ago. Shitty that you were punished for bad play Marv, but well, if it makes you feel any worse.... I survived your shot. Thank you magical man who saved my life, as I didn't want to die again before day 2.


Why do you think marv shot you?


Mementoss this thread's lack of your minty freshness makes me sad in the pants.


I guess I will just have to freshen this thread up!!

No but srsly I should start finding the whole scum team. Help me out VE, who is the scum and who is not the scum.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
October 03 2012 19:55 GMT
#975
On October 04 2012 04:53 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 04:47 Mementoss wrote:
On October 04 2012 04:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
That is the single most amusing outing of a scum I have seen since A RNG shot toad a few games ago. Shitty that you were punished for bad play Marv, but well, if it makes you feel any worse.... I survived your shot. Thank you magical man who saved my life, as I didn't want to die again before day 2.


Why do you think marv shot you?


I find it highly unlikely a town vig shot me over any of the other players in the game tbh. Given that I was shot and survived I assume it was the mafia and thus thanking the magical medic.



Yeah I can't see town shooting you, how do you know you were shot though? Did I miss something?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
October 03 2012 20:05 GMT
#987
sloosh is awfully quiet this game
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
October 03 2012 20:15 GMT
#995
On October 04 2012 05:14 marvellosity wrote:
this seems like the perfect place to be bitter.


seems like your taking a page out of hiropros playbook from rockband lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
October 06 2012 14:08 GMT
#1474
paramedic role OP

##Vote: Hapahauli
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
October 08 2012 13:55 GMT
#1717
guys
I was going to do this last minute

but I cant stay up till the flip

so sub optimal play coming up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
October 08 2012 13:59 GMT
#1718
On October 08 2012 22:55 Mementoss wrote:
guys
I was going to do this last minute

but I cant stay up till the flip

so sub optimal play coming up


nvm going to thanksgiving now. Don't have a smart phone is gg.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
October 08 2012 19:04 GMT
#1722
guys i am back
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
October 08 2012 19:35 GMT
#1725
I am the Medical Examiner aka, I am the watcher, after clues got taken away my role was changed.

Breadcrumb, the only breadcrumb would be I changed my quote to "mommy whats a gravedigger" cause I imagined the medical examiner digging up dead people to examine them. The other would be how I exchanged words with BC after he claimed he was shot.

Okay to the more juicy stuff.

Night 1:

I watched BC, BC was visited by Node(Hapa) or the mafia vigilante. So he did not lie about the shot. However, he did lie about being medic protected.

On October 04 2012 04:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
That is the single most amusing outing of a scum I have seen since A RNG shot toad a few games ago. Shitty that you were punished for bad play Marv, but well, if it makes you feel any worse.... I survived your shot. Thank you magical man who saved my life, as I didn't want to die again before day 2.


On October 04 2012 04:53 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 04:47 Mementoss wrote:
On October 04 2012 04:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
That is the single most amusing outing of a scum I have seen since A RNG shot toad a few games ago. Shitty that you were punished for bad play Marv, but well, if it makes you feel any worse.... I survived your shot. Thank you magical man who saved my life, as I didn't want to die again before day 2.


Why do you think marv shot you?


I find it highly unlikely a town vig shot me over any of the other players in the game tbh. Given that I was shot and survived I assume it was the mafia and thus thanking the magical medic.



Why would town lie about this? I can't think of motivation. The only reason BC would lie about this would be because he wanted to make scum think there was a medic saving his ass. Actually, the only possible way BC is town is if he is veteran, I don't see why he would lie about this as town, and just say hai guys I was shot, but I was veteran so give me some protection tonight. However, I doubt Blackmamba would take out the veteran role after one of the vets already lost his life. Also, given the fact that Mafia didn't try to shoot him again makes me 95% sure BC is the 3rd Party Night Immue Serial Killer.

On October 04 2012 05:02 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 05:00 Z-BosoN wrote:
Wait, so Risen the paramedic, another medic on BC, and, incredibly, another one @ austin, who was also shot?? Do we have three medics, does everyone buy this??


Given that no one has claimed any of the shots on the dead players, (ie no one is claiming vig)

We know we have two dead vanilla's, shots on me and austin, and risen raped himself while giving us marv.

We know we have mafia, and 1 third party based on setup, so 4 kp appearing isn't that unlikely I think.


This quote also seems like he knows a bit too much, it implies that third party has some kp since no one is claiming vig.

I would 100% lynch BC tomorrow because of this lie.

That brings me to my next point. Mafia knew BC was third party after night 1.

On October 08 2012 09:08 Hapahauli wrote:
Guys guys guys.

Don't lynch BC - he's a 3rd Party Role


On October 08 2012 09:11 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2012 09:09 Coagulation wrote:
How the fuck do you know hes third party?


Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 10:57 marvellosity wrote:
Seriously guys, BloodyC0bbler. I expect specific thanks from all of you later in the game.


It's actually really obvious.


Last minute ploys by dead mafia players to get the lynch on the third party to try and save members of their team or just to put WIFOM not to kill BC. We can use this now known knowledge to our advantage. Anyone who has been pushing BC hard after night 1 without much reason, or seems like they know too much, is scum. They are scum looking for some town cred for leading a lynch on anti town.

On October 08 2012 09:47 kushm4sta wrote:
bc is scum. bc lied about getting shot. zboson is also scum. ve is also scum.
these are my current thoughts.
##unfos coag
Case later.


This post rubbed me the wrong way. BC is scum because he lied about getting shot, yet kushm4ster has no evidence to prove BC lieing about being shot. He is using this as his only reasoning. Also Marv, hard defended this guy, almost single handedly getting a wagon off him with a meta case.

On October 01 2012 23:33 marvellosity wrote:
kush as townie:

Show nested quote +
On September 03 2012 18:47 kushm4sta wrote:
So it seems like the consensus is to lynch either cubu or kville. Anyone not feel this way?
Even if they aren't mafia they are solid policy lynches.
Now the question is which one.
Kville is the bigger lurker, but I think there is a higher possibility for cubu to actually be mafia.
Honestly cubu probably isn't mafia either, just because I think mafia would put more effort into their posts. Lynching one of these guys is better than lynching someone who is active though. So my vote is still on cubu.


Will vote for policy lynches just fine, check
Calls Cubu probably not mafia but is happy to have his vote on him, check


On October 01 2012 23:57 marvellosity wrote:
Good luck rationalising kush's play from any perspective. As in the post-game to my most recent newbie game, Hapahauli pointed out the significant difference in his town/scum play - his attitude. I'm nowhere near convinced his attitude this game is his scum attitude.



I could see kushm4sta as scum.

Night 2:

I watched sloosh and nothing happened.

I wish the night deadline was earlier so I could do this last minute and get one last watch. But hopefully this will prove to be useful. Since I was shit all game and I'm sorry lol.

But yeah look back after night 1/2 and see people that seemed to have a switch of thoughts on BC or knew too much. Because scum knew BC was 3rd party pretty early. I wish I could be more helpful but I haven't been doing enough reading into the game.

I would say lynch BC > lynch kushm4ster

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BloodyC0bbler
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