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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 18 2012 13:35 GMT
#194
hehe
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 18 2012 13:38 GMT
#196
hapa is town btw
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 18 2012 13:49 GMT
#198
Blazinghand is town (I'm only at page 5).

prplhz could very well be scum. If he is, hapahauli is still town because he is defending him in a townie way.

austinmcc is scum. I present the following post as evidence.

On September 18 2012 06:55 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2012 06:50 Hapahauli wrote:
If mafia would like to keep hypothetical townie-marv alive to the endgame because of my "policy lynch," then awesome! Mission accomplished! Though in all seriousness, I've read through quite a few of his recent games. He never lives as town past N3 (barring Mad Men Mafia where he was a replacement) in his recent games. If he's alive a long time, there's a very high chance (IMO basically guaranteed chance) of him flipping red.
<3 everyone at all, but you need to look further. He's generally not being killed off for supersexy scumhunting, but because he comes off as very townie and is generating a lot of discussion/activity from others. His early reads, although I haven't read recent games, are not generally a big threat to mafia.


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On September 18 2012 06:50 Blazinghand wrote:
Hey pudding-munchers stop arguing about that and read my case

I don't know how anyone can munch on pudding.

I DO kind of like that observation. It feels almost TOO obvious but...man it's kind of damning.


I very much agree with BH's case, but I need to read more. The only problem I have is austin's reaction as I feel like maybe we should just lynch him instead.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 18 2012 13:55 GMT
#199
oh I see hapa and BH are buddies. Nice job guys if this was resistance we'd autowin now.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 18 2012 13:55 GMT
#200
iamperfection is town too, he probably doesn't have the cojones to suggest a random lynch as scum.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 18 2012 13:57 GMT
#202
On September 18 2012 09:39 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2012 09:38 Hapahauli wrote:
On September 18 2012 09:35 iamperfection wrote:
On September 18 2012 09:35 Hapahauli wrote:
On September 18 2012 09:30 iamperfection wrote:
you case on prplhz is shit. a fucking meta case on 1 post come on. Although i dont think that was the point of your case i think the purpose was to drive discussion which it has done. Kudos to you.

The purpose of my random lynch was an attempt to drive some discussion. I had already discussed with marv after my previous game in which palmar suggested a random lynch in order to drive discussion on day 1.

Thats why i find it extremely wierd that marv didnt think it was random when i had already spoken with him that i would do it in my next game.
On September 18 2012 06:46 marvellosity wrote:
P.S the whole point is that iamp's suggestion wasn't random, so we already have a liar. LAL?


I say we respect his wishes.

## Vote Marvelosity


Geebus why are you flipping out?

what?


"you case on prplhz is shit. a fucking meta case on 1 post come on."

Seems very unnecessarily critical/harsh/attacking. Like I don't think his case is good either, but that's just over the top and scummy imo.

he is a big boy. i dont think he will lose sleep over it.


Confirms my post above. No scum would say this.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 18 2012 13:59 GMT
#204
hahahha I just saw Zephirdd enter the thread and vote the most obvious townie in it. Good Job bro.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 18 2012 14:05 GMT
#205
ok I've caught up.

Will read more attentively later, some of you guys textwall like bosses. Here's my current idea of the thread.


I will deny!
iamperfection
Hapahauli
blazinghand
Palmar

Junglers
Zephirdd
Mementoss
bluelightz
prplhz
Ange777
mkfuba07

5 carries on your team
Marvellosity
HiroPro
austinmcc
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 18 2012 15:19 GMT
#231
On September 18 2012 23:48 Ange777 wrote:
@Palmar:

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On September 18 2012 22:57 Palmar wrote:
On September 18 2012 09:39 iamperfection wrote:
On September 18 2012 09:38 Hapahauli wrote:
On September 18 2012 09:35 iamperfection wrote:
On September 18 2012 09:35 Hapahauli wrote:
On September 18 2012 09:30 iamperfection wrote:
you case on prplhz is shit. a fucking meta case on 1 post come on. Although i dont think that was the point of your case i think the purpose was to drive discussion which it has done. Kudos to you.

The purpose of my random lynch was an attempt to drive some discussion. I had already discussed with marv after my previous game in which palmar suggested a random lynch in order to drive discussion on day 1.

Thats why i find it extremely wierd that marv didnt think it was random when i had already spoken with him that i would do it in my next game.
On September 18 2012 06:46 marvellosity wrote:
P.S the whole point is that iamp's suggestion wasn't random, so we already have a liar. LAL?


I say we respect his wishes.

## Vote Marvelosity


Geebus why are you flipping out?

what?


"you case on prplhz is shit. a fucking meta case on 1 post come on."

Seems very unnecessarily critical/harsh/attacking. Like I don't think his case is good either, but that's just over the top and scummy imo.

he is a big boy. i dont think he will lose sleep over it.


Confirms my post above. No scum would say this.


Why wouldn't scum say this? While I agree with Blazinghand and hapa leaning town, I can't understand how you are giving iamperfection townie points.


Because it's posted in such a matter-of-fact-I-don't-need-to-worry kind of way, he just posted another thing that looks good regarding mkfuba's school.

he's basically being very straight up, which is townielike.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 18 2012 15:21 GMT
#232
On September 19 2012 00:17 Zephirdd wrote:
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On September 19 2012 00:15 Ange777 wrote:
@Zeph:

What makes Palmar town? Posting that big list dividing us in town, null and scum reads?

Meta. He's shown waaaay too much interest to be scum palmar

Nothing in my filter suggests I'm town yet. I've only been confirmed town once so far, but you're not good enough to notice it, so why do you want to be my friend?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 18 2012 15:22 GMT
#233
prplhz you useless sack of shit, get in thread.

Do you want to kill marv? austin? Hiro? give me something.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 18 2012 16:47 GMT
#256
On September 19 2012 01:35 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 01:33 prplhz wrote:
On September 19 2012 01:32 marvellosity wrote:
why do GK and Palmar look town to you, then?

Well, goodkarma looks town because he was putting effort into his posts and because he was pushing the right agendas and because he replaced out (sorry, but town replaces out 10 times more than scum). Palmar is looking interested in this game and that's good enough for me for now. You will agree with me that HiroPro's case is not exactly overly convincing.


No, it's not convincing, but I found his point about throwing a bunch of new candidates into an already divided town pretty decent. I disagree on GK for the reason I outlined earlier.


Do you honestly think that this is a valid point? Should I just hold back my opinions because they don't match what's already going on?

screw this, marv is scum. I'll prove it later

##vote marvellosity
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 19 2012 08:47 GMT
#405
First off, I don't need other people fighting my battles. Lynching me day 1 is not a bad thing at all if you have a legitimate reason to call me scum. In fact in previous games I've mostly been defended on day 1 by scum. I don't know though, I'm kinda on the edge about Zephirdd, he always does stupid shit so calling him scum seems too much this early.

Also irrelevant because we're lynching marvellosity today.


On September 19 2012 05:59 Zephirdd wrote:
and finally, his lynch provides nearly zero information


"lynch for information" is a thing scum invented to make bad lynches happen. Never think about the "information" a lynch will give you again.

Oh, I noticed you went on to vote imperfection who's like confirmed town. Start thinking, unless of course you're scum.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 19 2012 09:13 GMT
#410
This is why marvellosity is scum:

On September 18 2012 06:46 marvellosity wrote:
P.S the whole point is that iamp's suggestion wasn't random, so we already have a liar. LAL?


Possibly a joke, I wasn't in the game when this was written so I don't know how the mood was in the thread. The random lynch suggestion, while strange, bears no meaning to his alignment.

This is important: When I joined the game marv had made exactly one post worth reading. It was a long-winded post but it had very little substance to it, at least for someone I would consider a good player. He basically rehashed the reasons why a case against hapahauli was bad (duh) and then proceeded to vote for a lurker.

The point is marv was really, really not doing jack shit in the game until I actually came in and called him out on it. He seems to have really changed things up. He even changed his entire attitude to be more badass. If you don't believe me, read his filter before, and after this post:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=16286762

On September 19 2012 01:35 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 01:33 prplhz wrote:
On September 19 2012 01:32 marvellosity wrote:
why do GK and Palmar look town to you, then?

Well, goodkarma looks town because he was putting effort into his posts and because he was pushing the right agendas and because he replaced out (sorry, but town replaces out 10 times more than scum). Palmar is looking interested in this game and that's good enough for me for now. You will agree with me that HiroPro's case is not exactly overly convincing.


No, it's not convincing, but I found his point about throwing a bunch of new candidates into an already divided town pretty decent. I disagree on GK for the reason I outlined earlier.


What I take from this post is that marv for some reason has a problem with me not following whatever trends are already happening in town.

The bad thing about replacing in is that you miss a ton of important reactional stuff, the good thing is that you start with a completely unbiased point of view. I decided to post as I read through what had already happened in the game. So, marv's problem is essentially that I had my own point of view.

Did you think I wouldn't tell people what I thought about other people in the game? Should I just not call out my reads because they "mess with an already divided town"?

It's a real problem when you're actively encouraging people to not read the thread objectively. Unless of course you're scum.


On September 19 2012 02:28 marvellosity wrote:
Palmar's play so far:

1. lol call 3 people scum for no reason
2. give out townreads to make self look townie (wow I can do this too, does this actually give town credit around here now? I should have known)
3. vote someone for no reason

na, piss off Palmar.


There is a marked difference between giving townreads for the hell of it, and giving town reads because it's applicable to give townreads. You already know that I hate it when people do the stupid "don't give your town reads" shit.


On September 19 2012 05:34 marvellosity wrote:
also, I'll answer you on Palmar if you can give me a coherent scum motivation behind my blatant OMGUS

gogogo


That's not how the game works, if it did you could just OMGUS every time and say "no scum would do that". I take your OMGUS as having almost nothing to do with your alignment, I take your attempt at using it to make you look like town based on that, as very, very indicative of you being scum.

On September 19 2012 05:55 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 05:52 marvellosity wrote:
I'm amazed you think weak sheeping from a seasoned player is a null tell, hapa.


Seasoned players vote like that all the time, and I have yet to connect a mafia-mentality with prplhz.


Weak sheeping from a seasoned player can absolutely be null. It's all got to do with how they sheep and why. Not the face-value of just sheeping.

We need to kill marv today.

Just for effect/emphasis

##Vote marvellosity


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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 19 2012 09:16 GMT
#411
To be clear, http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=16286846 - this is the point where I changed my mind from "hmm marv hasn't done anything" to "marv is scum"

The attempt to discredit me for nothing other than throwing out ideas and calling it a valid point is terrible. It doesn't help that marv is agreeing with a point made by his previous scumread.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 19 2012 09:17 GMT
#414
This prplhz lynch is not good btw, I don't think he's scum now.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 19 2012 09:18 GMT
#415
On September 19 2012 18:16 Ange777 wrote:
@Blazinghand: Hapa unvoted marv previously and hasn't set his vote on anyone else yet. So we are missing two votes.

@Palmar:

Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 17:58 Blazinghand wrote:
Also Palmar if Marv is scum I would like to lynch him quite a bit-- he can be extraordinarily dangerous. You promised an explanation later-- I'll be awake for a bit. What's your case?


THIS and I am still not sold on iamperfection's confirmed town status. Just because of the attitude he gave that statement in? How about his awful case on Zeph and the lack of any scum hunting activity from him since?


Dude I make calls on little stuff all the time. All these textwalls mean nothing. To be completely fair, that little post I quoted from myself where I first voted marv was reason enough to kill him. I make a case so the derps can understand.

Now be a good derp and vote for marv.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 19 2012 09:27 GMT
#418
Because I don't think he's scum?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 19 2012 09:33 GMT
#421
good call!
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 19 2012 09:54 GMT
#426
So you want to kill townies instead?
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