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/in - Played some IRL mafia, decided to try out forum mafia, hope that means I'm ok with playing in the newbie mafia.
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I'm certainly not Drazerk's smurf, someone already made a comment about this in the IRL Mafia in Raleigh thread, I don't think Drazerk is an LP contributor. You can check me out on irc.freenode.net, I've had the nick for ~ 7 years. I've met tofucake and DivinO and iGrok IRL. Not sure what else I can do to prove that I'm not a smurf of drazerk other than that.
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Ahh sorry, I just think it's funny because iGrok kept calling me drazerk and nobody but tofucake and I got the joke at Raleigh. I guess maybe GMarshal got it but I don't think he was there when iGrok modded us.
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Aren't you in the other newbie mafia? Was reading it while I'm waiting for this one to end, is it too late to /obs in there?
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No lurkers, I'm all for lynching lurkers on D1. Quiet people are always scummy.
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Sorry, I guess I didn't see that in the rules anywhere.
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That's what it looked like to me, never played with roleblocker or miller/godfather type stuff but seems simple as fuck to me.
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er, as far as I know there can only be one each of each unique role, so only 2 possible wrong cop checks. In addition, likely the mods won't screw us too bad, and will probably have a decent amount of roles, not all 11.
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Sorry, I miscounted, no confusion, you're right, the cop has a 1/4 chance to get an incorrect read, this doesn't necessarily lead to scum win or LYLO or MYLO. In addition, anyone saying that mafia has a better chance to win in newbie mafias, go read the wikipedia article on mafia. Mafia statistically has a better chance of winning.
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Ok, who cares what roles are in the game, I seriously don't, just find the scum and win, ez.
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I'm all for lynching lurkers. A lurker is either being quiet to hide what they are, or not helping, either way they're not any use to anyone. so far people not lurking are SDM and Thrawn... we'll see how many more of you come out of the woodwork.
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If they're going to be busy/afk all game, they really aren't being any help, they aren't reading all the posts and giving us their reads, just taking up space. This hurts us almost as much as a mafia as the mafia can leave them alive, knowing they aren't making good reads/paying attention.
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I sleep kind of odd hours, I've been asleep, sorry for not being active. I was one of the first few posts, thus there was almost nothing of substance, the first few posts are almost always all fluffy filler. I don't have any good reads yet, just skepticism. I'll be back in a few hours to give you some better reads. To be honest, we're probably going to end up lynching a townie, and we /shouldn't feel bad/. Lynching a townie seems to almost always happen. While it's most beneficial to lynch mafia (obviously), anyone that talked about doing a no-lynch is out of their gourd, no-lynching doesn't affect the ratio at all, and doesn't even give us a chance at killing mafia. That just means that the mafia have a free night, maybe we get info from who they kill, but it's nothing conclusive.
I'll be back later today to make some better reads, not sure exactly when (N.B. I know I said in a few hours, could be closer to the end of the "day", could be later in the actual day, etc) I'm helping move my dad into his new house.
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Alright, just got home, I can take some picture tomorrow if you want, if you need proof that I'm helping my father move. I wasn't sure dates/times until night time saturday EST. Yes, I sleep strange hours, if that makes me scum, that's a pretty bad read. Going to spend some time reading all of your filters, will post more in 30-90 minutes. I kind of wanted to play some PS2 Beta, but not getting lynched is more important  .
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Ok, I'm just going to go through everyone as I read their filter, there should be 11 so I'll number them.
In no particular order, besides the order I middle clicked to open their filters.
- KillingTime
Seems logical, has a good activity level, nothing seems scummy here, while he may have been afk for some time, so was I, it isn't necessarily scummy, just means we have lives. I think he's clean for now.
- kushm4sta
Seems to have good reads, not sure why he's calling out scumteams already, two or three people agreeing is likely not a scum team on D1, likely just people without reads bandwagoning a little. Doesn't seem obviously scumlike, but some of his accusations seem a little too strong, as if he's trying to throw accusation off himself, but could just be D1 jitters/trying to get conversation started.
- WeeTee
Fairly low post count, this isn't a big issue as my post count is low as well, but his post didn't have many original ideas, and he ignored some players in his analysis. This in and of itself is not particularly scummy, just doesn't help the town as much as it would seem. For now, he's neutral to me, not scum or particularly town-y.
- thrawn2112
Seems to be very active, haven't seen him in other games, so I don't know if this is his normal activity level or if he's being nervous and posting a lot to cover it. The constant comments about KotH are kind of annoying, and support the nervousness read. Might be a blue role, or mafia, he reads slightly on the scummy side, but not my first choice to lynch on D1.
- Xatalos
Fairly logical player, willing to make reads, I like how he points out what he agrees with when he quotes posts. Seems very analytical. Willing to bet for now that he's town. Doesn't seem to be bandwagoning, which is very good for his town case, only issue is if he is just trying to mislead, for now, strong town read.
- Kville
Not active, at all. He seems very active in NMIII or whatever the normal mini mafia he's in right now is. Willing to bet he's scum or useless for town. He has my vote at the minute.
- Cubu
Seems to have fairly fluffy posts, a bad defense of himself by deflecting from himself to lurkers. Maybe i'm a little tilted because of him calling me out for being a lurker, but I must have missed the post where someone pointed out in the rules that we can't no-lynch, I'm used to games where it's a possibility, even if it's a bad idea. I felt the need to show the logic for why no lynch is bad. He's my #2 scum read at the moment, after kville.
- Kreb
Seems to be fairly analytical, likes to look at the statistics. I'm getting a town read based off his wording, but I also think that the statistics could be a shield for any scumlike behavior. We'll see how his later posts go, but for now I'm willing to bet he's town.
- Stutters695
Only has one post, and it was regarding our lurker policy. He said he would have questions for us later, but I guess not? Kind of a scummy read, but he might just be afk. He hasn't had fluff though, which puts him after Cubu on my potential scumlist. Hopefully he posts more.
- JacobStrangelove
Seems to be very active, most of his posts seem to be pro-town. I can't find anything wrong with him (especially because he defended me for sleeping weird hours ). For now he's a town read, would need to see more posts from him before I can decide something else.
- Sonic Death Monkey
So, logical player, claims to be semi-pro poker player. Seems to hav egood reads, doesn't jump to conclusions. Seems like a strong player for late game, hope he's town. Again, for now he seems like town, need more posts to get a read for the other direction.
I hope the format is ok, wanted to try something out with a fair amount of bbcode. I think the only safe vote for now is for kville, as he has contributed nothing. We don't have enough to know if someone else is contributing misinformation or whatnot. Hopefully this sort of analysis is fine, I'll try to make a post like this every day that I'm alive.
I'd also like to apologize that it took so damn long, was watching the end of TI2 and then helping some people out, check my twitter if you don't believe me. (@drazak168).
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If sleeping and being afk is lurking, sure, I was reading 30-40 posts at a time, so when I came back my first post (about policy) was becasue it was one of the first things I read. It took 2 hours to read everyones filter, I posted when I started working on it, and watched the end of the international. I wanted to have a fresh perspective instead of what I remembered from reading a lot of posts at once, so I read filters Not sure if you understand human sleeping patterns but I've been fairly active when I'm here, I feel like that is pretty bad reasoning, if I was mafia I'd simply not give reads, or give poorly thought out reads (or atleast, in my experience).
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EBWOP, If I was just trying to blend it, I would have bandwagoned on someone, for the most part people were ignoring kville, I'm the first vote on him, and the first one to directly accuse him. I find your reasoning flawed thrawn.
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Well, if you want to prevent a no-lynch, vote kville, have you looked at his filter? Have you seen his previous activity in other mafias? Something seems fishy there and if he doesn't speak up there is absolutely no reason not to lynch him.
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I only mention a no-lynch in direct reply to what kushm4sta said, reread his post. Sorry if I'm being defensive, not sure how that's a senseless claim considering what kushm4sta said. Everything I've said has made me infinitely more useful on D2 compared to someone like kville, I have a lot to analyze, and you'll have more info. lynch me now and your future lynches get harder.
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My best read is cubu. He's tried to throw suspiscion, he stopped posting when he had nobody to lay thin accusations on. Cubu has posted only with low content, low value posts, he hasn't had any real reads other than discussing statistics and how afk I was. I think Cubu isn't a great D1 lynch though, which is why he doesn't currently have my vote, if he continues to have such low content posts tomorrow, he will certainly have my vote. Cubu is someone we can try to analyze tomorrow and figure out if he really is mafia, we can't analyze kville, and if we wait to lynch kville it's not going to get better, we don't even have a baseline for him.
To that point, I'm someone you can analyze D2, you have several posts by me, with fairly decent content. Even if kville isn't mafia, he isn't helping anyone. In addition, I felt that going for cubu would just be bandwagoning at this point, which as town doesn't help me at all, espescially considering I do have my own unique thoughts, which I have shared with everyone.
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