EPTI Can't Believe it's not Themed MiniMafia
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marvellosity
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gonzaw, even not in-game you talk a lot <3 Edit: also, of course I will not be replaced! | ||
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But let's not be silly, it's never going to happen :D | ||
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On July 10 2012 06:50 NoSmurfHere wrote: Says the noob who rolled vig 3 games in a row and shot town each time :p I have a midterm in a few hours and so will not update the thread until after. If the game achieves capacity tonight then signups will persist until 20:00 GMT (+00:00) on Wednesday (roughly 46 hours from the time of this post) and the game will start two hours after that. Wow, ouch  | ||
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On July 11 2012 06:54 Keirathi wrote: ##Vote marvellosity So obvious. ... if all the people I've hosted/coached/watched from the Newbie games gang up on me, I shall be rather displeased D: | ||
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e: Prom <3 | ||
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how was midterm thingy? | ||
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On July 12 2012 01:24 VisceraEyes wrote: I doubt it. Nothing against you, but if your reads' quality is based on the presence/absence of another player, then you have other problems dear. No babe. It just shows how much you tug my little heart strings. But yes, it is bollocks. My reads were excellent in Mini magic and you were present. | ||
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Millers claim roleblockers do not (katina prevented SK KP in... Emergency? but had the misfortunte to be targeted down as scum. if for some reason she'd been left alive she could've repeated the act) gonzaw you're an ass <3 | ||
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On July 12 2012 08:50 talismania wrote: pardon me for some half-assed musing: since we've got majority lynch to deal with, what about some sort of nomination system? I don't like how majority allows townies and scum alike to save their opinions on people, especially day one and just hop on whatever bandwagon is happening near the end of the day. It would be nice if, say, 24 hours in everyone puts up a list of three players they want to see in consideration for the lynch and reasons why. Then all that gets tallied up or something and we decide between the popular choices. Actually you wouldn't even need to tally or enforce that. Just having everyone put up three names with reasons should be good enough to move discussion towards a consensus lynch candidate or two (hush s&b yes I am and always will try to get people to post their impressions of others). no next | ||
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marvellosity
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I'd rather lynch talis for his never-ending bullshit on listing names and reasons. Seriously, 24 hours into day 1 and we're supposed to come up with reasons on 3 different people for why they might be scum? It's just nonsense. Or... wait for it... I have an idea! If someone says something a person finds scummy, they can call them out and bring it to the thread! Wow, marv, you say - an amazing plan! People shouldn't be 'forced' to make effort, the making of the effort willingly is what helps gives us our reads on people. | ||
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On July 12 2012 16:51 strongandbig wrote: Hey bros For people who weren't in ssb or mtg mafias, just wanted to let you guys know I am currently in Europe, where I don't have a cell phone data plan. This means I can only post when I have wifi, which is a change from my normal method. I've also been busy at work so please don't expect much from me before 8pm CET. Now for serious stuff: I'm going to be watching marv like a motherfuking hawk. I think hosts tend to try to "balance" games sometimes by tweaking their scum team selection; however, that can and has led to extra info from town through balance speculation. Marvellosity makes an extremely tempting player for hosts to do this kind of balancing, because his scum play is empirically very good, but he isn't a "veteran" so he's not likely to be the subject of balance speculation. I also suspect bugs of doing this kind of balancing. + Show Spoiler [reasons, from wheel of fortune.] + The last of his c++ games I played in was wheel of fortune. That was a stacked game and I was one of the worst players in it, although I did eventually manage to figure out the scum team (and got shot for having correct reads before I could push some of them). With the benefit of hindsight, that scum team looks almost perfectly balanced for the player base. Radfield was town, ace was scum. VE and Forumite were both good players, but only on the edge of being full-on vets. I firmly believe that town would have won that game if Radfield hadn't decided to use a DT check on Ace, who was godfather. That kind of closeness is the sign of a well-balanced game; and the odds that both town and scum would have their best player as their best power role are very small from pure chance. So what does this mean? I am NOT proposing to policy lynch marvellosity; if he's town he can be a great asset, and besides that's totally against the spirit of the game. What I AM saying is that I think when someone points out something scummy he does, we should take it pretty seriously. Pure chance wouldn't explain why he has rolled scum in something like half his games since our first game together (noob 6) while I have rolled it once - him being good and me not does explain that. NOW: having told you why you should pay attention, I'm going to point out something scummy marv has done. That thing is: propose/say he would be okay with lynching Talismania. Talismania's plan IS anti town. When Ace is host and he tells an obs QT how good a plan is for scum, you better believe he knows what he's talking about. Systematic case proposing plans give scum an excuse to make shitty reads and blend in, because everyone is making shitty cases and dumb reads. That kind of plan dilutes good information and adds bad information. HOWEVER: Talismania proposes this plan as town. All the time. Like, every game. Usually "pushing scummy plans" is a decent scum tell; but this specific player pushing this specific plan is not. And Marvellosity should know this. Marv has obs'd at least two games where Talismania proposed this plan or a variation of it (ssb, bangbang). Tali has proposed this in other games. Marv is the kind of player who pays attention; he should also know that I've pushed tali hard for these plans in the past, as have others. Marv putting tali forward as his first lynch candidates comes down to an easy push on an easy target for reasons he should know are bad. Marv, I'm watching you. + Show Spoiler [on Talismania, briefly] + I'm not saying tali is an easy target in general, like kenpachi or grush would be. He's not that kind of shitty player slash bad case magnet. It's just that for marv to propose him for lynch based on that plan is scummy. ##Vote: strongandbig Damn this game is easy. First section is fluff. Second section is a completely insidious attempt to create additional suspicion on to me under the guise of "balance". He spends time saying people should scrutinise me especially for mythical 'balance' reasons... that for some reason are working exactly like he says and no other way. As to "I should know this" about talismania. I didn't really obs SSB so much (I think there is even a comment in the post-game where someone said Risen had no credibility but i did not know because I hadn't followed that closely). But in bang bang talis was SCUM and proposed similar. And I still find the plan scummy whether he proposes it as town or scum. One last point on his shitty balance bullshit - " Pure chance wouldn't explain why he has rolled scum in something like half his games since our first game together (noob 6) while I have rolled it once - him being good and me not does explain that." I have rolled scum TWICE. I have said in at least one other thread recently (maybe MTG?), directly in response to him I think, that I have only rolled scum TWICE. This is not half the time. This whole post is the worst thing I've ever seen. ##Vote: strongandbig I'm doing it twice because I feel so strongly about it. | ||
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"talis plan is scummy, but he always does it" that's literally the only content | ||
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You seem to think I follow games closer than I do. My main memory was of Bang bang where I got rather annoyed about it there as well. I'll take your word on Space Station because it was too many games ago for me to remember. Regardless, I *do* believe the plan is anti-town. And I did not accompany it with a vote. gonzaw's preceding question was "who would you lynch between..." so it was merely a follow-on answer - "I'd rather lynch..." I still think the idea of keeping me under close scrutiny for "balance" reasons is an insidious way to think. Everyone should be under full scrutiny all of the time. You're singling me out for subjective, unprovable reasons (for instance, I would postulate that WoF was more stacked for Mafia; no weak links with two extremely strong scum players in VE/Ace and Forumite who is apparently very competent at it). | ||
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Next time don't try to dress it up and justify it. You know I like to be watched, darling. For now, ##unvote | ||
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