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HiroPro
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HiroPro
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You know you want to  When it says "He can send orders to one of them every half cycle.", do you mean that an order can be sent once during day and than once during night, or 2 orders per day/night? | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
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HiroPro
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 I tried that when I played as a hydra, but I just kept defaulting to my normal browser and screwing up. | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
Probulous, I agree with you that shifts are an important thing to look at. But day 1 to day 2 is not the time I'm interested in. Halfway through day 1 and halfway through night 1 are the times that are important; this is when the 2 managers will receive their orders and they are the people who have the most knowledge in this setup. Also, I want to hear everyone's thoughts on policy lynching people who claim cop/track/watch and say that they have a red check on someone. The way I see it is in this setup, even if mafia has only 1 KP (and I would think 2 is more likely), 1 for 1 trades are good for them due to the sheer number of people they have. It would be very easy for a minion to fake a claim and watch as the other person gets lynched. If they're town, it's good, 1 for 1 is right on the pace they need. If they happen to kill one of their own they can use the cred to confirm themselves pretty much. I think the same thing would also apply to vigis who try to claim a shot without breadcrumbs. If a manager dies, will we receive any info that they got on their minions (other than their names)? | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
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HiroPro
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On July 16 2012 22:17 austinmcc wrote: Ummmm, did nobody read iGrok's game? The %s may be higher here, but a random lynch still isn't anything but a discussion-generator. That game was 2 scum 1 SK 8 town, 3/11 or 27% chance to hit non-town on a random lynch. This is 9/27, 33% chance. Not higher enough to really matter. I like the discussion of causing chaos to mess with mafia, to some extent. Just like with the Sleeper Cell games, this isn't normal mafia. Town have the numbers advantage, and, for now, are more or less on even footing information-wise. Scum don't have an advantage UNTIL they get organized. Some forms of being chaotic would be equally harmful to both factions, other forms would be more harmful to town (higher numbers). However, I don't support trying to cause chaos, because we don't know (and can't know) when mafia will get organized. We can speculate all we want about how many cycles it could take, and how each of us would communicate with mafia underlings were we CEO (see sleeper cell...II? for message speculation), but, especially given the vague comments about censoring messages made by hosts, we just don't know whether mafia can get fully organized, or how long that would take. At some point, IF they can organize, any chaos we cause only hurts town and no longer hurts mafia. Not good. Can we kill you? Or would that be too much chaos? | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
On July 16 2012 22:30 austinmcc wrote: You can. But you shouldn't. That's right, I'm claiming killable. As in, QbertZ's bringing it up wasn't a bad idea, but I don't think we should try and make things chaotic. I imagine you have an opinion on MZ/BH that you'd like to share then if you thought that was good discussion? | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
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HiroPro
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On July 16 2012 23:32 rastaban wrote: Caught up now, thoughts so far: First off the random vote is a bad idea, normally the reason it is used is to eliminate mafia influence, but guess what the mafia don't know who each other are so this lynch will be without their influence anyway. We have a golden opportunity to have a lynch today with mafia having to base their judgments on reads, and make hard choices while not able to communicate. Fellow employees do not squander this opportunity! I think there will be a noticeable shift in reactions before and after the half-cycle depending on whether or not the person put up randomly is mafia or not. I want to know whether or not minion's abilities are revealed if their manager dies. | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
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HiroPro
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On July 17 2012 00:08 Kurumi wrote: Cycle is day-night. Half cycle is either day or night. They probably can communicate right now. Mind you, that's only 3 messages. CEO-High Rank-Minion and High Rank-Minion. Bah, I thought it meant halfway through the day/night. I guess that kinda takes away the reactions we could get from the random lynch then. | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
On July 17 2012 00:24 VisceraEyes wrote: Okay, so far we have pseudo-scumhunting by most, RL by Palmar (:OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO) and Chezinu is a mad detective. Syllo wants to lynch Prob, marvel misses me and QbZ is sinani? Did I miss anything gravely important before I post like...opinions? You missed BH making an odd vote on MZ and then ignoring Probulous when he questioned him on his Chezinu vote. | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
His reasoning for ignoring Probulous doesn't make sense: Probulous's question is not invalid just because BH switched targets. And his logic for thinking that sandroba/syllo are scum is laughable. ##Vote Blazinghand | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
And it's pretty hilarious that you say I shouldn't get "crazy" with my voting when you've been throwing your own vote around and argue that syllo is scum for not voting... | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
On July 17 2012 01:42 supersoft wrote: i disagree. He looks crazy but green. And his logic is not laughable at all. CEO should be a skilled player like syllo or sandro. The problem with his logic is, that syllo and sandro didnt accuse him with bad reasoning, however from his point of view it might look so if he's green. Moreover i doubt that syllo/sandro wanted to defend MZ there. However MZ really does look scummy for reasons i already pointed out. I consider this laughable: On July 17 2012 01:30 Blazinghand wrote: Welp I don't really know what to say to that since even a scum sandroba wouldn't KNOW that MZ was scum at this point unless he's one of the controllers and MZ was a minion. It's preposterous that there'd be any other reason to vote me, so after MZ flips minion, we can lynch Sandroba and he'll flip manager. | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
On July 17 2012 01:52 marvellosity wrote: It looks more to me like HiroPro is going gung-ho on the tails of the experienced players and leaping in positively to look good. You can call it whatever you want. But I see a case that I think is good. | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
On July 17 2012 01:53 marvellosity wrote: and yet you're already so convinced here that you placed your vote? lol! Yes. I waited for BH to respond to Probulous/sandroba and he's acted scummy in his response. | ||
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