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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
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Last Edited: 2012-06-30 16:17:13
June 30 2012 16:16 GMT
#8
Wouldn't a Did not visit returned from a Track target imply a confirmed Godfather?
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JieXian
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July 04 2012 15:58 GMT
#61
/in
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
July 04 2012 16:01 GMT
#62
On July 04 2012 16:22 Release wrote:
Since we know that mafia can get heated, let's have some good humor during the day/night 0.

Today, there was a fly in my bathroom pissing me off until it finally fell into the toilet...which felt good. It felt better when i took a piss on it afterwards.


thats poetry right there hahahahahahaha
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
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July 05 2012 16:00 GMT
#184
Hi sorry for being late, was busy with work. I still need to read and think more. My instinct will be to fire away at a few people but knowing them from previous games I have to be more patient.
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
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July 05 2012 17:31 GMT
#187
On July 05 2012 19:21 Hapahauli wrote:
Un-FOS JingleHell

As I've taken some time to cool down a bit, I'm growing worried that this thread is going to turn into a giant post-bang between the four most active/reckless players on the thread so far (YourHarry, JingleHell, Release, LazerMonkey, and Me). Such a situation would be extremely harmful to the town and would let the Mafia sit in the shadows while we war over one another. Perhaps we can turn our attention to two suspicious posts by some lurkers in an effort to get them to speak up:

TMG26

His first post is rife with a desire to look helpless, lots of fluff, and indecision (my commentary is bolded).
+ Show Spoiler [First Post] +
On July 05 2012 08:38 TMG26 wrote:
It's a 13 player game, and only 3 mobsters, so there is still a room for a litle mistake on day1
Megafluff, and downplaying the importance of day 1 reads

With a random vote on day 1 the probability of hitting scum is low, but missing wont be that dangerous, the question that i want to make is: With this low ratio of scum, does the nolynch becomes more or less viable?

I'm still a newbie in mafia games, thats one of the reasons of asking this questing
trying to look helpless

And sorry about my bad english, i'm not a native speaker
more helplessness

About what being happening here..
Lazer was not clear on what he said, Hopeless stated that, and yourHarry immidiatly voted Hopeless for that

So, in my opinion if we want to catch the scum we have to confront them, so i Hopeless did the right thing...But so did yourHarry, what i find funny was JingleHell jumping in to declare FoS on yourHarry

In my opinion Hopeless and yourHarry did almost same same thing
Note the language - "in my opinion" as opposed to saying it outright. Overly diplomatic and indecisive

My main suspects right now fall to yourHarry and JingleHell, because your acusations seammed more like a counter acusation after a "scum teammate" being acused

But is all still too light, a lot of people still havent spoken
Despite stating two suspects, immediately reverts to indecision



When JingleHell replies to TMG26's passive accusation, TMG is apologetic, passive, and does not address the issue (commentary bolded again).
+ Show Spoiler [Response to JingleHell's Defense] +
On July 05 2012 08:47 TMG26 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 08:41 JingleHell wrote:
Wait, so my actual reasoning is supposed to be an OMGUS, and Harry's suggestion that 23% is gambling odds is only equally suspicious as my case?

When my case was based purely off of suspicious behavior, and my defense was based on the lack of substance, which was the grounds for my accusation? Not only does that not make any logical sense, it also feels like exactly what you just accused me of doing.


Sorry, dont know what OMGUS is, i will search
An apology... says he will search instead of just searching for the damn thing. Fluff.

About the 23% odds, i didnt read that..... because of the time that it took me to type, i'll will make sure to check new replies before i post something that took a litle bit of time to type
Does not address JingleHell and posts irrelevant information - "I'll make sure to read before I post..."


More fluff/half-hearted accusations.
+ Show Spoiler [Response to Harry] +
On July 05 2012 09:02 TMG26 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 08:53 YourHarry wrote:

A. He thinks I am trying to mislynch. (False)
B. I am not participating in case based on substantial evidence (True, but not my fault probably)


Thanks for the welcome

A: We cant know for sure what you are trying to do, a statment like "i'm not trying to mislynch" is worth notting... scum wont say they are trying to mislynch

B: Well, there no eveindence that he wanted to start a bandwagon, there was only a acusation of lazer's contradiction, BUT you told us what you tought about it... thats your opinion, so its recorded now
What?! What's even the point of that.

What i believe he condemns you most is for the "early" vote...

And then you came with the odds not being bad.....................
Further indecision


Makes another overly diplomatic/indecisive/fluff post that points suspicions to JingleHell and Harry
+ Show Spoiler [Another Diplomatic/Accusatory Post] +
On July 05 2012 10:49 TMG26 wrote:
Even if it is Plurality Lynch, there's still 40 hours left

And its again funny to see that Hopeless jumped on your defence... After you had already voted harry after harry voted hopeless

In my mind, you and harry are the prime suspects..but only a few hours have passed, and i dont want to jump into bad conclusions


Mackin

I have less of a case on Mackin, but his first post is very very suspicious.
Inaccurate/Bandwagon post on LazerMonkey.
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 05 2012 07:06 Mackin wrote:
Hey guys, just putting it out there Lazer is already on my FoS list and we're only just beginning, long contradictory post with almost too much effort put in.

Underlined part is simply not true. The post only has one contradiction, and it isn't very long. Criticizing someone for putting "almost too much effort" into posting is a huge red flag. This sounds like someone who saw someone's criticism of a lone contradiction and immediately jumped on the bandwagon without any analysis. Very anti-town mentality.


His next few posts are comprised of one-liners and fluff:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 05 2012 07:17 Mackin wrote:
HellJingle, that's an interesting name...

On July 05 2012 07:28 Mackin wrote:
On July 05 2012 07:22 Hopeless1der wrote:
Mackin give the poor guy a chance, he's just a little excited I think. I just wanted to give him a heads up so he checks his posts more carefully, that way we can narrow down our scum lists earlier rather than later.



Fair enough point, but I just want to stir up some conversation to get people talking. Ain't that what Mafia's all about?

[B]On July 05 2012 07:56 Mackin wrote:
@Harry We have a clever one here methinks.




I'm going to put aside the babble between the loudest players who are having a stupid disagreement about getting people to talk vs how it's useless fluff.

TMG is clearly new, not a native speaker and deserves some BOTD.

My FOS is on Mackin for trying to light up fires and disappearing as town burns. His thoughtless posting reminds me so much of mafia behavior.
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
July 05 2012 17:37 GMT
#188
Let's focus on lurkers like Mackin ATM. I know I might qualify as one but I have nothing to add to the lazer/hapa vs hopeless/release/jingle babbling
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
July 05 2012 18:04 GMT
#193
On July 05 2012 06:39 Lazermonkey wrote:
Lurkers!: There are two types of lurkers. The ones who doesn't post anything and the sneaky ones, who posts ALOT but nothing of value. The first category could either be bad town play or scum play. But the second category is almost exclusivly scum play. If you are a townie, speak your mind, don't make a super duper long post when you could've said it on just a few lines. Keep it simple. With that being said, post!
[/i]

He's the third type. Very little and nothing of value but random accusations.

Everyone needs to chill and look elsewhere.
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
July 05 2012 18:04 GMT
#194
and goodnight
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
July 05 2012 18:30 GMT
#196
goign to sleep soon. Had to add that that's typical scum play. It reminds me a lot of what a scum did (remember bio, Jingle?)and I assume he's going to get verbal soon.
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
July 05 2012 18:42 GMT
#197
and release for that matter
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
July 06 2012 09:14 GMT
#236
On July 06 2012 10:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
I get how my claiming it was a huge case pissed you off and drove you to attack me back, but the issue was still fresh and I didn't want it getting brushed off for being a weak/half-assed read. I don't get how its anti-town to point out things I find suspicious. How else are we supposed to hunt scum if no one makes a read on different people? Do you think you've got all 3 scum locked down already or something? Maybe I should never contradict anyone ever again.


lololololololol you're right. I played NMMXIII with hopeless and this doesn't sound like him at all

#Vote Hopeless
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
July 06 2012 09:15 GMT
#237
wth no voting thread yet?
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
July 06 2012 16:04 GMT
#260
Nah bass i was behaving like lazer in XVIII

lazer will get to you soon
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
July 06 2012 16:06 GMT
#262
ebwop : not to the same extent though
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
July 06 2012 16:28 GMT
#268
On July 06 2012 20:02 Lazermonkey wrote:
One player who have gotten mostly onnoticed so far is JieXian. His filter is quite short, I suggest you go read it. Half of it contains filler and the other half is crazy bad.
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 02:31 JieXian wrote:
On July 05 2012 19:21 Hapahauli wrote:
Un-FOS JingleHell

As I've taken some time to cool down a bit, I'm growing worried that this thread is going to turn into a giant post-bang between the four most active/reckless players on the thread so far (YourHarry, JingleHell, Release, LazerMonkey, and Me). Such a situation would be extremely harmful to the town and would let the Mafia sit in the shadows while we war over one another. Perhaps we can turn our attention to two suspicious posts by some lurkers in an effort to get them to speak up:

TMG26

His first post is rife with a desire to look helpless, lots of fluff, and indecision (my commentary is bolded).
+ Show Spoiler [First Post] +
On July 05 2012 08:38 TMG26 wrote:
It's a 13 player game, and only 3 mobsters, so there is still a room for a litle mistake on day1
Megafluff, and downplaying the importance of day 1 reads

With a random vote on day 1 the probability of hitting scum is low, but missing wont be that dangerous, the question that i want to make is: With this low ratio of scum, does the nolynch becomes more or less viable?

I'm still a newbie in mafia games, thats one of the reasons of asking this questing
trying to look helpless

And sorry about my bad english, i'm not a native speaker
more helplessness

About what being happening here..
Lazer was not clear on what he said, Hopeless stated that, and yourHarry immidiatly voted Hopeless for that

So, in my opinion if we want to catch the scum we have to confront them, so i Hopeless did the right thing...But so did yourHarry, what i find funny was JingleHell jumping in to declare FoS on yourHarry

In my opinion Hopeless and yourHarry did almost same same thing
Note the language - "in my opinion" as opposed to saying it outright. Overly diplomatic and indecisive

My main suspects right now fall to yourHarry and JingleHell, because your acusations seammed more like a counter acusation after a "scum teammate" being acused

But is all still too light, a lot of people still havent spoken
Despite stating two suspects, immediately reverts to indecision



When JingleHell replies to TMG26's passive accusation, TMG is apologetic, passive, and does not address the issue (commentary bolded again).
+ Show Spoiler [Response to JingleHell's Defense] +
On July 05 2012 08:47 TMG26 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 08:41 JingleHell wrote:
Wait, so my actual reasoning is supposed to be an OMGUS, and Harry's suggestion that 23% is gambling odds is only equally suspicious as my case?

When my case was based purely off of suspicious behavior, and my defense was based on the lack of substance, which was the grounds for my accusation? Not only does that not make any logical sense, it also feels like exactly what you just accused me of doing.


Sorry, dont know what OMGUS is, i will search
An apology... says he will search instead of just searching for the damn thing. Fluff.

About the 23% odds, i didnt read that..... because of the time that it took me to type, i'll will make sure to check new replies before i post something that took a litle bit of time to type
Does not address JingleHell and posts irrelevant information - "I'll make sure to read before I post..."


More fluff/half-hearted accusations.
+ Show Spoiler [Response to Harry] +
On July 05 2012 09:02 TMG26 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 08:53 YourHarry wrote:

A. He thinks I am trying to mislynch. (False)
B. I am not participating in case based on substantial evidence (True, but not my fault probably)


Thanks for the welcome

A: We cant know for sure what you are trying to do, a statment like "i'm not trying to mislynch" is worth notting... scum wont say they are trying to mislynch

B: Well, there no eveindence that he wanted to start a bandwagon, there was only a acusation of lazer's contradiction, BUT you told us what you tought about it... thats your opinion, so its recorded now
What?! What's even the point of that.

What i believe he condemns you most is for the "early" vote...

And then you came with the odds not being bad.....................
Further indecision


Makes another overly diplomatic/indecisive/fluff post that points suspicions to JingleHell and Harry
+ Show Spoiler [Another Diplomatic/Accusatory Post] +
On July 05 2012 10:49 TMG26 wrote:
Even if it is Plurality Lynch, there's still 40 hours left

And its again funny to see that Hopeless jumped on your defence... After you had already voted harry after harry voted hopeless

In my mind, you and harry are the prime suspects..but only a few hours have passed, and i dont want to jump into bad conclusions


Mackin

I have less of a case on Mackin, but his first post is very very suspicious.
Inaccurate/Bandwagon post on LazerMonkey.
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 05 2012 07:06 Mackin wrote:
Hey guys, just putting it out there Lazer is already on my FoS list and we're only just beginning, long contradictory post with almost too much effort put in.

Underlined part is simply not true. The post only has one contradiction, and it isn't very long. Criticizing someone for putting "almost too much effort" into posting is a huge red flag. This sounds like someone who saw someone's criticism of a lone contradiction and immediately jumped on the bandwagon without any analysis. Very anti-town mentality.


His next few posts are comprised of one-liners and fluff:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 05 2012 07:17 Mackin wrote:
HellJingle, that's an interesting name...

On July 05 2012 07:28 Mackin wrote:
On July 05 2012 07:22 Hopeless1der wrote:
Mackin give the poor guy a chance, he's just a little excited I think. I just wanted to give him a heads up so he checks his posts more carefully, that way we can narrow down our scum lists earlier rather than later.



Fair enough point, but I just want to stir up some conversation to get people talking. Ain't that what Mafia's all about?

On July 05 2012 07:56 Mackin wrote:
@Harry We have a clever one here methinks.




I'm going to put aside the babble between the loudest players who are having a stupid disagreement about getting people to talk vs how it's useless fluff.

TMG is clearly new, not a native speaker and deserves some BOTD.

My FOS is on Mackin for trying to light up fires and disappearing as town burns. His thoughtless posting reminds me so much of mafia behavior.
What is this? Stupid disagreement? This is like the strangest post ever. You first decide that all you the originall discussion is just a stupid disagreement, you don't even comment on it. Saying that all discussion before this post(page 10) is about getting people to talk vs how it's useless fluff. is a lie.

You are completely dismissing the case on TMG because he is
1.) new (played two games already)
2.) english is not his mother tongue(can you please show me where you had a hard time understanding what he was saying).
None of these are actually arguments for why TMG is not scum tho.

You then start to put pressure on Mackin out of all players. I don't see how his only few post atm left town burning. Noone even took notice of them untill later. Basically Mackin is a lurker at this point, why focus on him? Also what part of the posting reminds you of mafia behavior?

You are trying to pull the action away from where it really matters and instead point it towards a lurker, an attempt to slow down town progress.

Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 02:37 JieXian wrote:
Let's focus on lurkers like Mackin ATM. I know I might qualify as one but I have nothing to add to the lazer/hapa vs hopeless/release/jingle babbling
More on Mackin.

Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 18:14 JieXian wrote:
On July 06 2012 10:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
I get how my claiming it was a huge case pissed you off and drove you to attack me back, but the issue was still fresh and I didn't want it getting brushed off for being a weak/half-assed read. I don't get how its anti-town to point out things I find suspicious. How else are we supposed to hunt scum if no one makes a read on different people? Do you think you've got all 3 scum locked down already or something? Maybe I should never contradict anyone ever again.


lololololololol you're right. I played NMMXIII with hopeless and this doesn't sound like him at all

#Vote Hopeless

I'm not sure if this is a joke, but if it isn't... Bandwagon much?

Overall, this guy has it all. Lurks, tries to kill discussion about scum hunting, WIFOM accusations against lurkers and bandwagoning(assuming he wasn't joking). The only thing that somewhat points towards him being town is that his teammates probebly would be kinda upset with such a bad play and thus told him to step his posting up...


ok this is funny I've never felt sleepy while being accused before.

The first 10 pages didn't have anything interesting for me to notice to make "reads" on.

Let me rephrase about TMG, I found his post hard to understand and I'd assume that says something about his comprehension, and hence I'm not going to jump on him yet until I have more information,

[b]This part got me curious. Tell me, where does the action "really matter"?

The more on Mackin would be part of the same post had I been able to edit.

You are a joke. It's a discussion. I read through his filter and found something that fits hapa's analysis.
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
July 06 2012 16:31 GMT
#270
got another post hold on.

btw ebwop: This part got me curious. Tell me, where does the action "really matter"?
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
July 06 2012 16:38 GMT
#274
##Unvote

Hopeless' defence makes sense
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
July 06 2012 16:47 GMT
#280
dude ..... not all arguments need to be essays. I've already stated my point >_>

Lol why do you seem to want me to focus elsewhere? Some babbling was going on and there was nothing I could get a read out of, unlike the recent pages.

Sorry if you're pissed that I downplayed the "fire".
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
July 06 2012 16:50 GMT
#282
I was lost during the first 10 pages but now I'm starting to laugh hahahahahahaha
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
July 06 2012 16:50 GMT
#283
SHit i want to pm so much
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