Newbie Mini Mafia XIX

On June 29 2012 08:28 Promethelax wrote:


I think Myles is right here, we need to think this through. I'm certainly not opposed to a lurker lynch but if we are going to start targeting a single player it should be for a good reason.

Intact, if you think Myles is scummy you should keep a close eye on him and see how he acts see what he does and build a case.

We as townies need to work together though we have the deductive power of nine smart (I hope) people on our side, we should try to use that power.

On June 29 2012 09:55 Anacletus wrote:


You seem scummy for calling him scummy.

On June 29 2012 18:51 Fencer710 wrote:
Ah I've found something!This may suggest that both Anacletus and Jinglehell may both be mafia. Jinglehell points his finger at Monk after pointing it at Anacletus, then Anacletus points it at Jinglehell.

For some reason I can't say exactly why it makes me tick, but it does.

On June 29 2012 20:30 BLinD-RawR wrote:
yes I do see that their argument seems lacking but that is also because analectus seems be quite uncooperative with Jingle therefore the argument itself seems to be quite pointless.

Intact, any reads so far?

On June 29 2012 23:28 Intact wrote:
##Vote Analectus


No discussion, no thoughts, just hopping on board.

After promethelax comes in to push his case on Fencer (which no one but me really took to), Intact sees this as a very suspicious move. Promethelax is attempting to flesh out multiple cases on day 1 instead of tunnelling one person, and Intact deems that scum behaviour because it might split the town and cause tension. On the other hand, Anacletus flipped town, so Promethelax had the right idea going after someone else.

On June 30 2012 10:48 Intact wrote:
In addition, should we lynch analectus and he turns put to be mafia, it would make it fairly easy to point out the other mafia. And if he turns out to be townie it would be very easy to confirm some townies.


This is not true in the slightest and just screams scum to me. JH quickly picks up on it:

That last line in the spoiler is the biggest point here. Intact is assuming that a lynch would reveal perfect information about who voted. That cant work since town must be involved in the mislynch, so how could you know with certainty who is scum and who is town? Unless you're scum, you cant possibly know after a D1 Lynch.

On June 29 2012 20:22 Intact wrote:
I think I saw this type of play in a previous mafia game. Not sure which one though. There were 2 mafia who argued agressivly towards eachother early on. This reminds me of that occasion.

This is basically Intact's first move of the game: A vague reference to how maybe JH and Anacletus might both be scum, but presented in such a way that it's easy to distance yourself from later on. I acknowledge that I responded with agreement that this could be a useful bit of analysis if one of them flipped red, but knowing that both were town makes this look like an attempt to get discussion moving toward a mislynch.

On June 30 2012 10:29 Intact wrote:
I'm going to stand by my read as analectus being scum but I have also become very suspicious of promethelax. People may have been bandwagoning analectus but as soon as he got into lynching territory promethelax show up with a long thread pointing out someone else, thereby making some people switch vote. This causes divisions and tensions among the town which is exactly what the scum want. I lean more towards fencer just playing badly and promethelax trying to save his scum partner analectus.

I really don't see anything suspicious about Promethelax's case against Fencer. I think I'm not alone when I say that he's around the top of the suspects list at the moment. What about Promethelax's analysis of Fencer's play seemed suspicious? This seems like an attempt to just sow dissent without any real logic behind it.

On June 30 2012 10:48 Intact wrote:
In addition, should we lynch analectus and he turns put to be mafia, it would make it fairly easy to point out the other mafia. And if he turns out to be townie it would be very easy to confirm some townies.

Anacletus was, in fact, one of the good guys. We banned him. By what logic are we now able to confirm some townies? This post is just stupid, and to me it stinks of someone who is playing with the full information that a PBU has, and hasn't thought through the logic of the limited information environment that we town players are in enough to fake logical conclusions that sound like they were made by a townie.

Intact tries to call Myles scum and as soon as I suggest that he commmit to his read he backs off saying that he just felt that he had to get the bandwag- err ball rolling.