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[Interview]MMA at StarsWar 7 LAN Finals

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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-18 11:41:36
June 18 2012 11:28 GMT
#1
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some background if you didn't follow the StarsWar7 thing: + Show Spoiler +
MMA lost to Sen 0-2 in the semifinals, only defeated Grubby 3-1 and took the 3rd. And judging from watching him practicing for 2 whole days, he is really not at his peak. Coach Ryu Won going to Woongjin might affect his training a lot.


Interview Source (Chinese)
It's your first trip to China, how are you feeling about here?
Thank you, my flight was delayed, so it's already 10:40pm when I arrived, and when I got to the hotel it's already midnight, was really exhausted then.

But the Shanghai people are really warmhearted, and it's such a huge city.

(T/N: I was lucky enough to check in at the press/player hotel the same time as him. Pic: http://i.imgur.com/HG16N.jpg)

You fans are looking forward to your high performance at StarsWar7, but your condition not seem to well.
My performance did not meet the hope of the audiences, the Chinese fans might be disappointed. I will learn from this time, and try my best to be the best next time.

You won only Iron Squid this year, and your rival DRG has won several titles including MLG and GSL, and you are only ahead of him on earnings by 8000$, do you feel pressure?
(laughs) Me and DRG are good buddy, we don't really care about prize money, the only thing we care about is how well we can play in the matches.

SlayerS is competing in GSTL S2, as the ace of your team, what is your expectations?
Of course championship is our target, but I haven't won a single game this GSTL, I have to practice harder. If we made it to the finals, I hope I can perform better and take the title home.

The balance talks of Starcraft 2 is hot these days, as a TvZ master, what do you think about Terran nowadays and the TvZ/P matchup?
(laughs) Do you want "official talks" or real stuff? (Interviewer: anything you want.) Then I have to say the latest changes are really balance breaking.

So from a Terran perspective, what Terran changes are you expecting?
Nah Zerg is really being buffed a lot, I don't really expect a Terran buff, just don't nerf us too much (laughs).

Some last words for your Chinese fans?
I'm not at my best shape at StarsWar7, and didn't achieve my best goal, sorry for disappointing you. I will pack myself up, and do my best next time. Please have faith in me.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
KonohaFlash
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1590 Posts
June 18 2012 11:32 GMT
#2
Short and sweet interview. Seems like all the S-class terrans have the same opinion regarding the latest balance patch.
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
June 18 2012 11:35 GMT
#3
The more they keep talking about balance, the more i start to believe it. Don't want to turn this interview in a balance talking thread though.

Shame he lost to Sen. Wanted to see him against Macsed
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
speknek
Profile Joined February 2012
758 Posts
June 18 2012 11:40 GMT
#4
On June 18 2012 20:35 torm3ntin wrote:
The more they keep talking about balance, the more i start to believe it. Don't want to turn this interview in a balance talking thread though.

Shame he lost to Sen. Wanted to see him against Macsed

Well you can just look at the games and see for yourself :p it's pretty clear now

Anyway, nice interview. Gratz to Sen.
chambertin
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1704 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-18 11:56:36
June 18 2012 11:55 GMT
#5
When did Ryu go to Woongjin?

If someone would be so kind as to point me to the bulletin I would be very grateful (nvm found it)
Also, sad to hear he's not in tip-top form...
"I know one thing, that I know nothing" - Socrates?
novamarine
Profile Joined February 2011
Malaysia215 Posts
June 18 2012 12:09 GMT
#6
I always have faith in you boy

MMA hwaiting~
People.....People never change
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
June 18 2012 12:25 GMT
#7
MMA T_T
MMA: The true King of Wings
blamekilly
Profile Joined April 2011
466 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-18 12:27:14
June 18 2012 12:26 GMT
#8
LOL MMA's like, do you want to hear what most people want to hear, "i need to practice harder to beat zerg" or the real thing "zerg buff was balance breaking"

I don't expect Blizzard to buff terrans but it'll be sad to see a TvZ master become mediocre in the matchup. There's no dominant TvZer anymore. MMA and MKP play a similar greedy style against zerg and lately they've been heavily punished for it with early bust and ineffective harassment. MMA's bread and butter reactor hellion to deny creep and banshee to delay 3rd has been nerfed to shreds with the queen buff.
SystemXN
Profile Joined December 2011
China105 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-18 12:30:33
June 18 2012 12:27 GMT
#9
On June 18 2012 20:55 chambertin wrote:
When did Ryu go to Woongjin?

If someone would be so kind as to point me to the bulletin I would be very grateful (nvm found it)
Also, sad to hear he's not in tip-top form...


here is a thread about this.
MarineKing | Bomber | MVP | Gumiho
namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
June 18 2012 12:38 GMT
#10
MMA looks exactly like the Korean actor Bae Soo Bin, they look so much alike that it's actually starting to bother me.
IM hwaitiing ~ IMMvp #1 | Bang Min Ah <3<3
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
June 18 2012 13:09 GMT
#11
Even the koreans Terrans have given up on pretending everything is fine balance-wise lol. "You want the official bs answer or real talk?" lmao.
Sup
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
June 18 2012 13:17 GMT
#12
" Do you want "official talks" or real stuff?" haha
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
June 18 2012 13:19 GMT
#13
MVP, DRG and MMA say TvZ favours zerg. It's time for Blizzard to step up. ^^
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
June 18 2012 13:39 GMT
#14
I´d give it time until the end of this GSL but if the situation doesn´t change Blizzard should really do something about the queens.
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
Torra
Profile Joined October 2011
Norway469 Posts
June 18 2012 13:50 GMT
#15
Revert the queen buff asap.

User was warned for this post
acrimoneyius
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States983 Posts
June 18 2012 14:04 GMT
#16
Guess we'll have to wait till HotS to reset everything, I really wish Blizzard would have stopped patching the game to be honest. If they're going to continue to do so, they might as well make seeker missile range/energy usage more sensible. I'd be fine if they even lowered the damage radius/damage, so long as you could retain ravens after casting. Right now, there isn't the possibility for good micro on ravens in large battles.

I'm trailing off topic though. I hope MMA figures something out for TvZ that isn't mech.
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
June 18 2012 15:02 GMT
#17
if even MMA and Mvp are clueless in TvZ, what are we -simple mortals- supposed to do? thanks for the interview!
Writer for Red bull (Fr) and Iron Squid (En/Fr) @ClemLeLfe on twitter
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
June 18 2012 15:06 GMT
#18
Well, not sure why they made range to 5 instead of trying 4 first. Making a unit be able to defend everything and the unit is also used for macro mechanic and creep probably wasn't a great idea. Kind of weird to see zergs just make 6 queens and no units and get close to 3 base saturation. Everyone knows you need to make zergs build units early game or their macro just takes over. But seems 6 queens is enough except vs huge all-ins. And with the overlords, you have to pray they don't see it coming.
Greggle
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1131 Posts
June 18 2012 15:25 GMT
#19
Wow, he lost to Sen 0-2 in the semis? First of all why are the semis BO3, second of all =(

I know MMA has had a rough time even before the change, but I'm starting to really feel like queens are just far too universal of a counter, especially compounded with improved overlord scouting.

Hell, in round 1 of the GSTL the overall score for Terran excluding TvT was 2-15. Round 2 has improved that so far with Sculp and Jjakji bringing in 5 wins vs. Startale (current score is 9-19), but 2-15 is just... shockingly bad. Actually, if it weren't for Jjakji somehow still kicking ass the score would be 0-15 in round 1 and 5-19 total.
Life is too short to take it seriously.
CajunMan
Profile Joined July 2010
United States823 Posts
June 18 2012 15:28 GMT
#20
To be fair MMA was falling off TvZ before the patch. Good luck in the future mma.
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