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NoSmurfHere
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how quaint. | ||
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Let's kill this guy: ##vote mKmKmK | ||
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well that sucks | ||
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Do note that mKmKmK has taken his time in responding to the votes he's received. If he were town at the very least he'd call my vote stupid. However he's chosen to lurk the suspicion away which is far more of a scumtell than towntell. In addition notice how he hasn't built up many votes whereas some random noob is racking up votes like a stripper with DDs racks up $2 bills on fight night. There's some major derailing going on and whoever is responsible is scum. | ||
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On July 01 2012 09:09 MajuGarzett wrote: You're insinuating that mK is scummy because people aren't voting for him? That's rather ridiculous. Your first 4 posts don't do anything at all other than give a completely unsubstantiated vote. Your latest post says BM should be shot because he's an idiot, not because he's scum. You then spew ridiculous comments on mK based on him lurking while there are others who have lurked more. You then talk about derailing in a very vague manner without bothering to direct it anyone. Your vote is weird and has poor support and your comment about BM is completely at odds with town goals if you don't believe he's scum. I'm insinuating that he's scum because he didn't respond to the votes and he went afk. You think a townie would do that? Did you miss that part of my post? Initially my vote wasn't based on much but he failed the reaction test pretty hard. Secondly it is pretty common knowledge that townies jump on other townies day 1. I don't think it's a good idea to carry the BKE bandwagon to fruition as it'll most likely be more of the same as from the past. Why continue a losing trend? Scum who are found d1 are usually found through vague means and then the townies who catch them are killed and the reads are lost forever. Then the remaining sheep continue their witch hunt and lynch more townies. | ||
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On the other hand mafia lurk to shake suspicion ALL the time. mK seemingly has done exactly this, and if he's mafia certainly it's working. So, in this case, obviously I'm far more inclined to believe that the guy who is actively trying to stop a bad lynch is town whereas the scummy lurker is not. If mK is town he has a huge incentive to address the votes on him and make a case on his scumreads rather than disappear immediately after voting. Also speculating about his status is pretty stupid when I voted for him fairly quickly after he posted. | ||
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On July 01 2012 11:47 Adam4167 wrote: I do remember that game, one of my favourites. The difference between sephirotharg and casualman is that sephiroth was trying and making errors, casualman is not even trying at all, just acting obnoxiously. Vigs, shoot him tonight. Lets not waste a lynch and a full day cycle worth of discussion on someone who is trolling us. This post stinks. You seem to be ignoring the obvious third choice for town on day 1: we lynch someone acting scummy. You're recommending we lynch BKE on the basis that you don't like people casting early judgments. This is encouraging a passive game, are you afraid of a little bit of heat? You seem to want to punish BKE for playing badly rather than lynch him for being scum, a scum's bread-and-butter move. In addition, your vote just looks like a blatant bandwagon on the guy currently leading the vote count, you only justified it afterwards when MajuGarzett questioned you about it 5 hours later. I think you are scum. ##Vote: Mandalor this is a good case and these are all things I picked up on myself when I read mandalor's posts. I am completely fine with Mandalor and mKmKmK being lynched today. Anyone else will take some serious convincing. For now I'm going to keep my vote on mK, but in the interest of consolidation and actually lynching someone I have a scumread on, if that lynch doesn't fly I'll push Mandalor with you. | ||
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On July 01 2012 13:57 MajuGarzett wrote: People claim VT all the time, to me it didn't signify much. My decision was based on other stuff. I think people should remove votes from casualman. He's probably going to get shot anyways so people should be voting for others. Especially Broodking. When under so much pressure he chose a rather easy vote on someone who's just being weird. I want to see a better vote from him. You say people should be voting for others, particularly Brood, when your own vote is on me. There's a whole bunch of problems with this. First of all, you're telling people to vote Brood and not me, which means you either don't have confidence in my read and your vote shouldn't be on me in the first place or you're scum who doesn't want to vote for brood. Secondly you say that he chose an easy vote on someone who's just being weird. Isn't that EXACTLY what a vote on Brood is? A vote on someone who is being "weird"? Do you read your own posts? | ||
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it must've worked at least 6 or 7 times in a row from what I remember. | ||
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On July 01 2012 22:44 austinmcc wrote: I'm not comfortable with a Broodking lynch right at this point, although it looks like that wagon has passed somewhat. For one thing, from what I remember, he's been mislynched a few times (out of a small sample size).
I'll admit that I don't find "BKE often looks scummy as town" to be strong reasoning, but for D1 it's enough that I don't want lynch him. I also thought BKE had played in another game or two, but didn't see more in his profile. However, I'd love for him to clarify his first post, given all this discussion. Broodking, you say that you don't consider those with 4 or 5 games newbies. The rest of the players seem to disagree, and I know that I do (no more newbie games allowed =/= not a newbie in my mind). IF you accept a much more broad definition of noob, like the thread seems to want, would you alter your first post? Should people with something like 4-8 games be treated like the noobs in your post, or treated like more seasoned players? I'm alright with adding my vote to mK right now. The whole "role name" thing is actually what I thought Mattchew was referring to earlier when he said a previous poster looked super townie to him, and that was my dumb "don't think you should be trusting that" post. It's in VT pms, it's in the OP, if scum received the VT pm then they had it too, etc. Worried that mK's reaction is a blue who didn't read vs. scum who didn't read (those are the obvious options, so don't get on my junk about possibly revealing blues), but if so, he can defend himself if he ever returns to the thread. The absence in the face of votes doesn't look good to me from that standpoint. NoSmurf, initially I read you as one of the more sensible and townie folks in the thread. However, this caught my eye somewhat: Care to explain your train of thought? Over the course of 2 hours, you went from "probably town" to "completely fine with Mandalor lynch/scumread on Mandalor." Would like for you to articulate why you changed your read there. You misread. I was calling maju probable town because of his terrible vote and case on me (though I could be wrong there, who knows.) The second post is my only comment on mandator I've made. Two different players, no change in opinion. | ||
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NoSmurfHere
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His votes have gone BKE-BM-Fox and there's minimal reasoning for all of those votes. In addition at each point he's ignored most of the other cases and he's influenced the flow of votes without pushing the lynches himself. He also misconstrues the case on mK. It's not entirely the Kenpachi rule, though that's pretty good in itself. The scummiest thing about mK is that he said he was excited to play and then upon the game starting he disappeared. No excitement or enthusiasm at all. | ||
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If mK comes back to vote he's 100% scum. I'm banking on him getting modkilled to even consider this a decent idea. Probably a stupid idea, but w/e. I don't like the BKE lynch and the only reasonable alternative now is foxtrotter. I say that (particularly if fox flips town) we need to get a vig to shoot mK. ##unvote ##vote Foxtrotter | ||
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why was mKmKmK not modkilled? He failed to vote. | ||
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A lot of players look pretty terrible actually | ||
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Twelve rastaban Ghost Katina BM VE Assuming mK is town. If he flips scum then lynch them all anyway | ||
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The most likely to flip town on the above list IMO are like VE and rastaban/ghost but they look so bad it's hard to tell. I'd say replace them with Adam/mandalor if town. Too many lurkers in this game, honestly. | ||
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