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Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
December 08 2005 04:31 GMT
#1
Lovely game.
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iNsaNe-
Profile Joined January 2005
Finland5201 Posts
December 08 2005 04:38 GMT
#2
Not as good as I excepted but it's gg nevertheless.
It takes a fool to remain sane.
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
December 08 2005 04:48 GMT
#3
Great game, turned ZvT into almost a TvT with the "fight for every inch" warfare. Not researching drop to bother his expans probably hurt the most as he got two free expans with almost no defense for a large part of the game. Admittedly, there were few times 200/200 could be spared. Speaking of which, seemed like great resource management from Midian from an amateur's POV.

This game also reminds me of why I always reinforce expans with a sunk and lurk whenever possible. Dropships are a biatch!
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ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2298 Posts
December 08 2005 05:39 GMT
#4
really nice play by both sides but i cant undertand something. Is Midian against defilers and dark swarm ?!...
Terran in particular is a notoriously strong race for a no brain skillhand bot style.
jtan
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
December 08 2005 06:02 GMT
#5
gg!

Nice vesselpicking all the time midian^^ must have been damn annoying:D
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HeavenS
Profile Joined August 2004
Colombia2259 Posts
December 08 2005 06:47 GMT
#6
**fap fap fap**
awesome game. really nice play on both sides. Yes some mistakes were made, but thats like every other game.
Im cooler than the other side of the pillow.
greatmeh
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Canada1964 Posts
December 08 2005 06:53 GMT
#7
whats sadist's aka?
FalliNinLove
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Slovakia865 Posts
December 08 2005 07:50 GMT
#8
well sadist is just Sadist and always been sadist American Terran player if i am right
this game was sooooooooooooooooooo long... and soooo boring i felt a sleep in half but thx anyway
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
December 08 2005 08:03 GMT
#9
40 min lair vs no upgrade terran!

J/k actually its a very gg and jamie did some nice jju tactics with lurker stall :D Anytime a z does well on requiem its worth a watch imo.
wasted
Profile Joined October 2002
Germany1789 Posts
December 08 2005 09:48 GMT
#10
long and epic game, but i must say i didn't really like it. Z trying to bruteforce the win with pure hyd/lurk, but only 1/1 in upgrades until almost 40:00. rines were only 1/1 too, what a nice slaughtering we could have seen also dark swarm or attack on the expo with drop or guards would have been pretty devastating imho
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SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
December 08 2005 10:16 GMT
#11
really nice game
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Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
December 08 2005 10:47 GMT
#12
Talk about patience!
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Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
December 08 2005 14:49 GMT
#13
you people talking about swarm this guardians that have no understanding of brood war whatsoever
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NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7232 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-12-09 02:28:12
December 08 2005 15:51 GMT
#14
Yes, you can tell Midian's econ is severely stressed for almost all the endgame and that doesn't leave much room for teching. In the last 15+ minutes if he had gone hive the game could have ended on the spot with T winner.

EDIT: Clarity.
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BaBBlE-BEEble
Profile Joined November 2005
35 Posts
December 08 2005 15:57 GMT
#15
On December 08 2005 23:49 Twisted wrote:
you people talking about swarm this guardians that have no understanding of brood war whatsoever


But that's how they do it in pro replays.
Thanks Manifesto7!
ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2298 Posts
December 08 2005 20:34 GMT
#16
Twisted because MidiaN is good doesnt mean he cant play better or that whatever he is doing cant be commented by other people.I asked because I was curious. SO yea explain to me why swarm is soooooo useless in your pov. Swarm is a must nowadays and if he indeed had swarm the game would have had a totally drifferent play.
Terran in particular is a notoriously strong race for a no brain skillhand bot style.
nortydog
Profile Joined December 2003
Australia3067 Posts
December 08 2005 20:35 GMT
#17
I got a question, why was midian constantly running away from battles he couldve easily won(I think?), like at some point in the middle of the game sadist had a miniscule force compared to midian (12 lurks, 2-3 groups of hydra) but slowly pushed across the map (building up his force) picking off so many of midians units along the way.
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nortydog
Profile Joined December 2003
Australia3067 Posts
December 08 2005 20:36 GMT
#18
Anyway, very nice game :D
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ToT)MidiaN(
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
England2183 Posts
December 08 2005 21:17 GMT
#19
I overrated his army once or twice I guess, I thought I had too little because I was trying to re establish my economy, thus I figured I was low on units in comparison to him. Therefore I was intent on buying time rather than engaging, and most of the time I did have the smaller army but there were cases when I could've won, yes. And as for the swarm issue, it wasn't possible to tech because doing so costs resources and time, you can't just instantly acquire swarm free of charge, I would've had to sacrifice a lot of units to get swarm, and in doing so I would've got run over. Bigger mistakes came early in the game, not anticipating the cloaked wraiths, because I figured my tech was very fast in relation to his, thus I thought he'd abandon the wraiths and go 3 rax when he saw my spire so fast, hence I made lurker tech pretty soon and abandoned muta/scourge rather early myself, and skipped overlord speed. Basically I was operating on assumptions the whole game, many of which were logical, but ultimately incorrect.
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Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-12-09 01:26:29
December 09 2005 01:22 GMT
#20
On December 09 2005 05:34 ffswowsucks wrote:
Twisted because MidiaN is good doesnt mean he cant play better or that whatever he is doing cant be commented by other people.I asked because I was curious. SO yea explain to me why swarm is soooooo useless in your pov. Swarm is a must nowadays and if he indeed had swarm the game would have had a totally drifferent play.


I was gonna say about the same as midian just did, so read his explanation why he didn't get swarm.

To put it simple if you're lazy: he didn't have the resources or time to tech to swarm, his mistake was to not anticipate correctly to sadists wraiths. That caused him to get way behind. He also got hydra range and speed, so he needs to spend all money in hydra/lurk. If he had gotten lurk/ling (which is more costeffective but more risky), he could've gotten swarm.

edit: to respond to your question about wether it's fine to ask questions: yes it is. But what you posted wasn't a question, it was a way of saying: if midian teched to defiler+swarm he would've won for sure, which he wouldn't. If he had teched to defiler+swarm, he would've lost, because there would be no way to keep his expands, and he would just get overrun.
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