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On June 07 2012 09:32 GMarshal wrote: guys, I'm the Time Traveling Avenging Dragon of Rebirth and Radfield scumslipped when he said he knew the setup! You are a fool for claiming, for I am The 3rd Party Dragonslaying Power Demon, and I can dayvig a dragon, disabling their inherent regenerative properties, and absorbing their power as my own, causing me to gain you as my smurf. | ||
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On June 10 2012 02:12 iGrok wrote: Alright, is everyone ready? Game starts at 01:00 GMT (+00:00) tonight. I hate that time | ||
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looking forward to a game which is both full of analysis, fun, and not 80page long day 1's | ||
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On June 10 2012 08:36 iGrok wrote: Did anyone's role pm image not show up? Look at you making sure we all got the cute girl pictures iGrok host #1 | ||
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Its because RNG stands for Radfield No Go I can only guess that this means they are afraid of your power. | ||
GreYMisT
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just my initial thought, If i'm not relizing something please let me know | ||
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And yes chaoser, there are other ways. In a world where we would RNG the lynch, we would need to pick someone to do it, or have everyone RNG and then pick the person who showed up the most. Even though you provided a screen shot we don't know how many times that RNG was run, or your parameters | ||
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On June 11 2012 02:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: This post is smart. Unlike RNG, which is dumb and useful for scum seeing as all they need to do is "RNG" someone who already has a couple votes. It leaves no accountability for who gets lynched because everyone will say the same thing "I just RNG'd it." Do you instead favor a method like radfield proposed? or something else entirely | ||
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On June 11 2012 05:34 VisceraEyes wrote: There's a happy coincidence - when I came into the thread and expressed my willingness to follow Palmar's algorithm, I refreshed his page and I was on the top of the list. The moment chaoser did the same, I went and refreshed the page and HIS name was at the top. Fweeaky. Anyway, hypothetically what would your thoughts be on using Palmar's program as a means to arrive at two CANDIDATES for lynch (the top and bottom of the list it generates) and lynching between them? In that way, we arrive at the two candidates randomly and we still get to pick the scummiest of two candidates rather than lynching truly randomly? Or does that remove the point of the RNG lynch entirely? I feel like that is a weaker option than RNG. With a true random lynch, if we pick scum there is nothing he can do to get out of it, and our odds of hitting scum are therefore set at a specific number. However with this plan, our odds of hitting scum are actually less I feel (too tired for math) because if we hit scum with one and town with the other, the scummy player has a chance of getting out of the lynch (an option he wouldnt have if it was just a plain RNG lynch). | ||
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Alright fair enough, but I ask you what is up with this: On June 11 2012 05:58 gonzaw wrote: Oh yeah I fucking forgot about the Crazy Fiend. Well, hey scum! If you ever shoot the CF and you are getting lynched, could you out his identity to us before you get lynched? Here read this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=341558¤tpage=3#46 why bring this up now? there has not been a missing KP, nor has there even been a night phase. The only reasoning I can see behind this post is to remind the thread that you have thought critically (before the game started) and to get us off track of discussing a lynch. | ||
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On June 11 2012 06:16 gonzaw wrote: I do find it hilarious that you guys are the most "experienced" players in this game but it seems you guys are so frightened of making analysis or something that you want to retort to RNG. Not even in Newbie Games people take RNG seriously, and those are the "noobs" that "are shit at analysing". Last game as scum there were 2 scum factions and for most of the game I believed that the player I was "tunneling" was in fact scum from the other faction Irrelevant. Yes, it is "fluff" and it's not based on analysis, which is what Greymist said he was eager to experience this game. He was the one that said/implied he'd want analysis made this game, which is why I'm holding him accountable alone. VE didn't say he'd want analysis this game, he might just be dicking around on purpose and wanting to dick around on purpose. However Grey said otherwise, so yeah I'm holding him accountable, and I find it suspicious because of it. After Liar Game, in Post-Game Ver/Incognito said that ET made a "statement that he could be held accountable" at the start of D1 (that he'd tunnel sandro if sandro was scummy). They said that taking that statement alone, and his behaviour later in the game he was obvious scum. They also said everybody (except chaoser) completely ignored that. I tried to get the hint and pay close attention to any similar statement made on D1 that can be used to hold that player accountable, which is why I paid close attention to Grey's statement. For now yes, either him or Wiggles. Most of all, I want to start some meaningful discussion that's not centered on retarded RNG. About Radfield: As soon as the game started, he was the 2nd person to post. He seemed very eager to post, contribute, and get the game going. I find those very positive traits. However, the only discussion he's been part of (where he's been "active" and "contributing" ) was about the RNG deal, and not about trying to actually find scum. That makes him null to me, since like I said, if he was scum he could have easily tried to establish his "D1 town meta" by "pseudo-contributing" about irrelevant stuff, like the RNG deal or the "let's lynch someone we know is dangerous as scum! Let's lynch Ace/Palmar!" deal. However, again that makes him null or slightly town for me today (like I said after D2-D3 I'd be best to reanalyze his posts and not keep that same "town read). Plus he always gets killed on N1 (whether scum or CF), and he always gets retarded-ly lynched on D1 (I know that feel bro, just check any UG game I've been town in ); so I don't want him lynched right now (based on what's been posted in the thread). Like I said, I'm waiting for his response on the Wiggles/Greymist deal Rad said the exact same thing in the early game, and has also been talking mostly about RNG lynches. What are your thoughts btw? you seem to be hesitant to talk about it. | ||
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On June 11 2012 06:14 Palmar wrote: Just for the record, I think MZ failed already and I'd be willing to lynch him. Piggybacking on Greymist's thoughts on RNG to express your own thoughts while making sure you're not the original argument for the idea is terrible. Let's do this. Im afriad im not following this post, can you point out where MZ failed? | ||
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What do YOU think of an RNG lynch? | ||
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On June 11 2012 07:38 gonzaw wrote: /facepalm (please read the thread like I asked you to) You also avoided a question I made to you: What do you think of Wiggles? Not only that, but: What do you think of Radfield? Do you think he's scum by the way you cast some suspicion on him? What do you think about Palmar, and his switch from trying to use RNG to ignoring it and voting MZ using "analysis" ? I have been in a car ride from pensacola to north alabama all day, and just got home, have a daypost to write, and have been very busy unpacking, and had a dead phone for most of the trip. You will understand if i am not completely with it at the moment | ||
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