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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 11 2012 14:39 GMT
#27
Now we know why slOosh wanted to co-host :x
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 18 2012 16:26 GMT
#50
Pondering signing up. hmm hmm
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-21 12:32:00
May 21 2012 11:56 GMT
#68
Edited out: possibly replacing in somewhere
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 24 2012 19:21 GMT
#118
On May 25 2012 04:17 strongandbig wrote:
Naive and paranoid mean "always rolls innocent" and "always rolls guilty" right?


yes
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 25 2012 14:22 GMT
#137
glhf all, this should be a cracking read.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 29 2012 11:11 GMT
#772
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 29 2012 13:10 GMT
#786
wow Toad, no hi, so rude :<

I've been semi-following the thread, I'll give it a good read this evening and with any luck have something useful to post.

Although I'm already doing better than my predecessor.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 29 2012 15:56 GMT
#798
On May 30 2012 00:45 jaj22 wrote:

Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 00:04 supersoft wrote:
Every other case so far except my toadcase (who is currently on ice until he's confirmed mason) was uncovered and not well thought out. Especially our lynch yesterday. That case was terrible. There was really nothing about it. I could write a lot about why this player was a bad lynch. From an overall gamepolicy point of view because we got no information - maybe some about wiggles - and an individual point of view, because he obviously was town.

I can't get my head around the idea of someone signing up for a game with a premeditated plan to tunnel the crap out of one player and ignore the actual game. He never even said anything in the postgame of LIV. I'll just have to file him under "strange things that townies do".



On this whole issue generally. I think you really have to have been in LIV to understand the sentiments of many. BH and I weren't in the original signups for this game precisely because of LIV (yes, we both didn't sign up to this game on the original list because of how LIV played out). So I find Sinensis' actions really quite understandable. There have been plenty of people in this thread saying things along the lines of "but OMG, there's no such THING as anti-town town!". I had subscribed to that myself, but LIV shook my faith in this. And I was the scum taking advantage of it for god's sakes.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 29 2012 16:48 GMT
#811
jaj doesn't write particularly long posts. Are you on drugs?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 29 2012 19:57 GMT
#871
Some brief thoughts...

I'd have probably voted Wiggles day 1, his posting has been clear and makes sense. I don't quite get the level of flak he got for lynching Sinensis, and for a tonne of people to vote him in as mayor, then going into a lynch candidate is decidely weird. Especially don't like supersoft's accusations on the subject, as he only got vocal about the lynch after it happened. super's posting style also pisses me off.

Toad we're leaving to day 2, although he can shut the hell up about being confirmed town, because it's annoying.

Lurkers are annoying.

Zealos is scummy. For reference, I made a meta based attack on him in Magic:

+ Show Spoiler +
On May 26 2012 00:12 marvellosity wrote:
I would like to add a bit of meta case to my argument against Zealos.

Where he was scum in SNMM X he was aggressive from the get go.

He was townie in LIV and although he got mod-killed early and made practically no posts, there was one post that stands out.

Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 01:30 Zealos wrote:
At the moment it just feels like we are running in circles. We seem to be very quick at voting for the first thing that anyone does wrong without really thinking about it. We need to vote when we actually have a decent read, not when someone makes an offhand remark that seems a tiny bit "off" That's what I won't be voting till a little later, when I've got a better idea of who's who.

I think the Blub thing at the start was really pretty strange, but I'm not convinced it warrants a vote on its own.

Palmar: I don't get why he has to post so much useless stuff. I don't ever agree with the arguement "It's what he normally does" because it just lets him hide his scumminess. So what I would say to you is; if you're town, just tone it down a bit to allow people to make useful points instead of constantly replying to random stuff you're posting.



Conciliatory. Constructive. Non-abrasive - even when he's having a go at Palmar, he's actually trying to get him to post more usefully.

To the part in bold: he's not willing to make a vote there and then. He wants to think about it, and make a strong read before committing to a vote. Compare to this game.

1st post:

Show nested quote +
On May 21 2012 07:05 Zealos wrote:
Hey everyone, I agree with a policy VE lynch off the bat gogogo. ##Vote: VisceraEyes


2nd post:

Show nested quote +
On May 21 2012 15:28 Zealos wrote:
On May 21 2012 12:00 EchelonTee wrote:
On May 21 2012 05:38 Acrofales wrote:
Also, if all I had were town games in my history, discrediting any meta-analysis off the bat seems like a pretty good idea for scum. If you thought your playstyle was working, why change it up?

of his last 3 games, he lost 2 of them, and was nearly mislynched in the other. I wouldn't define that as "his playstyle working". what kind of crappy misformulated discreditation is this?

On May 21 2012 05:30 Acrofales wrote:
Yo Tunkeg. Glad to see you got that first post out of the way. Always a bitch as scum. You wrote a wall of text which says jack diddly squat. Bugs posted some decent advice, Nova and I indicated who we're keeping eyes on. You just posted a load of nonsense about yourself that I for one am not interested in.

his first post had 50x the content you had. then you try and buddy to nova saying you two are "keeping eyes on people"; all you posted was a joke accusation on Mattchew.

On May 21 2012 07:23 Acrofales wrote:
Hrmmm, Navillus, that's pretty interesting. Did Bugs give good advice or bad advice?

Navilus also posted a semi joke accusation on bugs ("i only recognize 2 vets so i vote the one who has less votes")

Found scum. that was easy. you play exactly like forumite's scum: ask tons of questions, do diddly squat

##Vote: Acrofales


I'm inclined to agree with you here. Add to the fact that the last game I played with him as scum, he was almost caught right off the bat on day 1, only for us to change last minute. Seems to like playing scummy when he's scum. ##Vote: Acrofales


Another vote:

Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 23:15 Zealos wrote:
On May 22 2012 23:09 Mattchew wrote:
On May 22 2012 22:41 Mouldy Jeb wrote:
yeah i had a feeling (OOOH AAAH) that that wasn't going to be understood, to explain, originally he voted for me for a reason he has yet to conger up then because of that random vote i felt that he was having a random vote so i voted for him. as a result of this he is trying to incriminate me by the whole "it reeks of terror and chaos shit"~~short and simple i don't like him i think he's scum trying to save his ass.

"In a town shaped by the subtle machinations and political intrigue of its guilds, it's reassuring to see a goblin waving his torch and screaming about some nonsense or other." —Agrus Kos

Lol. Gotta say I agree, I just don't understand what he's talking about o.O
Terrible town, or terrible mafia imo.
##vote: MouldyJeb


Another post:

Show nested quote +
On May 23 2012 00:04 Zealos wrote:
On May 23 2012 00:01 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2012 00:00 Zealos wrote:
On May 22 2012 23:59 marvellosity wrote:
On May 22 2012 23:15 Zealos wrote:
On May 22 2012 23:09 Mattchew wrote:
On May 22 2012 22:41 Mouldy Jeb wrote:
yeah i had a feeling (OOOH AAAH) that that wasn't going to be understood, to explain, originally he voted for me for a reason he has yet to conger up then because of that random vote i felt that he was having a random vote so i voted for him. as a result of this he is trying to incriminate me by the whole "it reeks of terror and chaos shit"~~short and simple i don't like him i think he's scum trying to save his ass.

"In a town shaped by the subtle machinations and political intrigue of its guilds, it's reassuring to see a goblin waving his torch and screaming about some nonsense or other." —Agrus Kos

Lol. Gotta say I agree, I just don't understand what he's talking about o.O
Terrible town, or terrible mafia imo.
##vote: MouldyJeb


Do you not have an opinion which? And presuming you do, why?

Leaning on terrible town, because his team would have shut him up or at least coached him by now imo. Still strongest lynch atm though. Lurked to begin with, followed with nonsensical posting.


You don't have a single scumread?

No strong ones, no, I haven't had a good enough look over the thread. I'll look over everything at the end of the night, because even if I tried to make a case now it'd probably be too late to get anything done about it.


I've posted 4 quotes here. He immediately votes on VE and then immediately switches to Acrofales. He later switches to Mouldy, with an excuse for deferring his scum hunt until later. Just for emphasis, compare to his attitude as town in LIV:

Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 01:30 Zealos wrote:
We need to vote when we actually have a decent read, not when someone makes an offhand remark that seems a tiny bit "off" That's what I won't be voting till a little later, when I've got a better idea of who's who.



It doesn't add up.


So it makes sense that he is well aware of how he posts at the moment after I attacked him for it very recently. It looks like he was trying to make posts at the start that look like 'townie' Zealos meta (see in the spoiler how I pointed him out as more conciliatory etc as town). However, what I didn't need to post in MTG as it wasn't my point, was that as townie he is also confident and forthright in his reads. He has done none of that. I don't mind much a wishywashy starting post, but when it's followed by more wishywashyness and no content, it starts to look scummy.

I liked a lot VE's point a couple of pages ago referring to "why would you want to vig me, I'm townie". As he pointed out that is a defence that is not a defence. Currently looking like a good lynch.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 29 2012 19:58 GMT
#872
EBWOP: I forgot kita - started off dodgy with the Hyach thing. Improved posting since then. I wouldn't improve of kita being a vig target at all.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 29 2012 19:59 GMT
#873
EBWOP: approve, not improve, marv moron.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 29 2012 20:06 GMT
#875
You always did get me a bit hot under the collar, BH
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 29 2012 20:59 GMT
#899
Could we have the filter list updated for replacements?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 29 2012 21:02 GMT
#901
On May 30 2012 06:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
Marvel: State of the Game. Go.


Read my filter: Go.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 29 2012 21:04 GMT
#903
*salutes*
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 29 2012 21:06 GMT
#905
What stuff? supersoft?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 29 2012 21:09 GMT
#908
?? I posted that an hour ago about Zealos, so my opinion hasn't much changed on that, no

I already said I was happy to see what happens with the Toad claim thing day 2.

I also made a comment on supersoft (i.e. not being vocal about sinensis before the lynch).

As far as getting a read on supersoft goes, I believe he'll make his alignment clearer during day 2. He's combative but I don't see him as being good at hiding his motivations.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 29 2012 21:16 GMT
#912
On May 30 2012 06:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
Marvel, the correct response is "my thoughts are X and Y and Z"...my question of you wasn't an accusation, so there's no need to get defensive. Saying things like "I already said" and "I made a comment" are very defensive when all I wanted was your input.

:/


Much like Magic you are reading my responses as defensive when they were not. I'm just baffled you are asking questions I have already stated clear opinions on or at least alluded to.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 29 2012 21:18 GMT
#915
Right, then ask that ^^

I answered it in any case.
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