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Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
April 29 2012 13:44 GMT
#34
/in

First time player
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
April 29 2012 19:31 GMT
#44
Thanks for letting me join I am definitely excited! And yes, this account is brandnew. Being a long time reader I didn't see the need to get an account until now.
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
April 29 2012 23:22 GMT
#49
Ok, than I have some questions as well. What exactly would be the miller? Just a townie without any extra abilites?

The rules state that we may not PM. So I can't discuss with other players via PM but must use this thread? Even if I am Mafia, I may not talk to the other Mafias exept for in this thread?
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
April 30 2012 09:48 GMT
#57
Sorry guys, but I have one more question

If I get a special role like Jailkeeper or Roleblocker, I just PM the host before every night? And may I change the target afterwards as well?
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
April 30 2012 20:16 GMT
#68
Oh, it never occured to me until Gummy's post: As the doctor I can protect myself too?
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
April 30 2012 23:54 GMT
#86
Oh, the game started, I am really excited

Seems like I should have chosen a better name? ^^ Anyway, I am no smurf just a long time reader creating the account to try TL Mafia. I only played a similar game IRL once so I really wanted to try this.

Isn't it a bit harsh to judge the players by their names? Maybe we should talk about the name Gummy. Perhaps someone who loves gummy bears and apparentely tofu. Weird sense of taste

@Paschl: I think you can change your timezone in your profile by picking the right country.
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
May 01 2012 00:04 GMT
#93
Ok, I am a townie. But:

Isn't it better to abstain from any roleclaiming? Otherwise isn't it easier to identify the special roles?

Furthermore scum could just claim to be regular townies and right now we have no way to prove anything.

I would have thought claiming to be a townie is just as suspicious as saying nothing about it but hey, I don't have any experience in this game
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
May 01 2012 00:12 GMT
#99
But then we will just have 9 people claiming to be townie. I don't understand what kind of information you will get from that.
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
May 01 2012 00:47 GMT
#103
On May 01 2012 09:35 Gummy wrote:
Don't worry. I already figured out who the scum are. It's paschl and ange. Thank me later.


I really don't know how to argue with you when you are only basing your accusation on me taking to a little longer to roleclaim. I mentioned my doubts about the usefulness of roleclaiming at the beginning. I'll just go to bed now and hope that this won't provoke any suspicion from your side :D
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
May 02 2012 08:50 GMT
#154
If there can't be 2 medics, at least one of you is lying.

I am somehow torn between Claw and Gummy.

Claw

I actually agree with DeMorcerfs LAL, so what struck me was this:

On May 02 2012 15:02 Clawtrocity wrote:
How is it ok for Tofu to do it, but not okay for me to lie about my role?


Why are you already implying that (both of) you are lying? As of now, no one can prove the claims. Although you stated you don't like this specific tactic of early roleclaiming, why wouldn't you insist on being the medic and defend your role against other accusations? Is it because you know you are lying and the medic has to be someone else? You might confuse mafia with this move but you could be mafia youself confusing all of us townies.

Gummy

I don't like your aggressive way of playing, doubting every player based on very little and somehow changing your mind every minute. But your timing to claim medic and to suspect Claw got me thinking. Gummy immediately called Claw scum when Claw roleclaimed. There may not have been any good arguments why Claw should be scum at that time but if Gummy was sure about Claw lying that would be more than enough to doubt him.

On May 01 2012 20:04 Gummy wrote:
The way I see it, clawtrocity is:
1.) Useless
2.) A townie who is trying to take the bullet for the real medic. I have no reason to believe there would be two medics.
3.) Scum who is trying to cast away suspicion from himself.


Only after rereading the filter I saw that Gummy already sliped a medic claim. Either it was a simple mistake him being the medic or a really well did move being scum to cast suspicion on Claw.
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
May 02 2012 16:27 GMT
#192
This is really extreme Gummy. There could only be two possibilities:

1) You really are the medic and absolutely sure about him lying.
2) Claw is the real medic and you are desperate to kill him before someone reveals you as scum. Although this logic is flawed as everbody would blame you if Claw flipped blue. Or you are playing a huge mindgame and already calculated that possibility? God, this is just soo confusing ...

Anyway, bullying us townies is not the smartest move. It just makes your case against Claw more suspicous, as if you can't win our votes through reason and logical thinking.

What I am most interested in right now is Claw's defense. I'd like to hear some more about his reasoning for lying/or defending himself as the real medic before I cast my vote.

@Paschl:

On May 03 2012 00:42 paschl wrote:
And in your posts you say that you hinted at being the medic before Claw claimed, could you point me to the post?


After Claw claimed medic, Gummy voted Claw and then immediately posted the following WITHOUT directly claiming to be medic himself.

On May 01 2012 20:04 Gummy wrote:
The way I see it, clawtrocity is:
1.) Useless
2.) A townie who is trying to take the bullet for the real medic. I have no reason to believe there would be two medics.
3.) Scum who is trying to cast away suspicion from himself.
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
May 02 2012 16:29 GMT
#193
[g]How much time do we have left until voting ends?[/g]
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
May 02 2012 16:29 GMT
#194
Too stupid for BBCode sorry ...

How much time do we have left until voting ends?
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
May 02 2012 21:29 GMT
#210
@DeMorcerf:

While I do understand your logic I don't believe No lynch is better than possibly mislynching. By voting for a lynch we will be able to see who voted on whom and why. No lynch just gives scum an excuse not to make a case against someone.

You are correct that by lynching one of the three potential blue roles we might mislynch. But lynching is the only way to get more information about the motives of every votes. If we just wait for night, scum can pick a target and we only get to know what colour they flipped. With this little information it would be really hard to reveal scum on day 2. If I missed some point, please tell me.

Regarding my role claiming: I thought this was normal seeing all the other players roleclaiming. I merely wanted to state that I don't think it will be of much use. I admit being a first time player I am probably easier to influence so next time being pressured to role claim I will think first and then post

Can you please explain why I should not have posted that?

On May 03 2012 05:17 DeMorcerf wrote:
Yet, you don't go crazy when Gummy pressures you; and you then put forward Gummy's medic slip and analyze how Claw appears to be a bad liar. But this: + Show Spoiler +
On May 03 2012 01:27 Ange777 wrote:

2) Claw is the real medic and you are desperate to kill him before someone reveals you as scum. Although this logic is flawed as everbody would blame you if Claw flipped blue. Or you are playing a huge mindgame and already calculated that possibility? God, this is just soo confusing ...

yes is illogical and should not have been posted.

♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
May 02 2012 21:33 GMT
#213
On May 03 2012 05:44 paschl wrote:
I feel like either nobody is reading my posts or im going crazy.
And fwiw this isnt posting much. I usually play 7/2 turbos and a day in those seldomly goes below 100 posts. Were here on a 2 day day1 and we made what? 200 posts?


Which post are you referring to Paschl?
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
May 02 2012 22:57 GMT
#249
I still don't understand. Voting no lynch will leave us in almost the same situation on day 2 as now, only difference is we will know one colour but are down one townie. I fear that this won't be sufficient to rule scum out on day 2 as well.
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
May 02 2012 23:40 GMT
#281
I had really hoped to get something more that would "prove" Claw or Gummy to be scum.

I still believe that no lynch won't do us any good. As of now I am leaning towards voting on Claw. Gummys tactic is simply suicidal if Claw flips and doesn't turn out to be scum. I thought about it and simply can't believe that scum would risk that much just to get someone who claims to be medic and whom most of us are unsure about.

Please reconsider your votes guys.

##Vote: Clawtrocity
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
May 03 2012 21:10 GMT
#303
Aces, you should have been there earlier

On May 04 2012 04:47 paschl wrote:
And since we went no lynch day1 we need another no lynch somewhere down the line unless we sweep it.


Could you explain that Paschl? Why would we need another no lynch?
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
May 04 2012 00:35 GMT
#308
I thought we had to post every night as well?! Isn't that stated in the rules?
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
May 04 2012 00:41 GMT
#309
On April 28 2012 04:20 Mattchew wrote:
Activity:
You must post in this thread once per day/night cycle and vote every day while you are alive. If you fail to do so, you will be modkilled.


Or am I misunderstanding?
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
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