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 If nothing else, at least for first little bit we should tell everyone our relative schedules so that there is no misunderstanding. To start this off, I will be going to class in about an hour, and after that I'll be able to post maybe once before going to work until about 10:30ish PM (AZ time) | ||
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Again, if you've been accused and you're not one of the mafia on our ship, reacting with emotion won't help anyone. Keep calm. We will do well in a calm, rational, logical situation. We won't do well in a witch hunt. Just ask the residents of Salem, Massachussets how witch hunts help a community...... If you've been accused and you're mafia, I hope you end up following the Galileo space probe into the depths of the atmosphere of Jupiter (also if you're mafia and haven't been accused :D) Anyways, I'll be reserving my vote for a while until I hear more from everyone. | ||
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On April 27 2012 15:05 O.Golden_ne wrote: I agree Jailbreaker, we definitely need some more discourse on people actions. If you feel this voting for yomi will pressure that conversation to happen then i'm happy for you to do that. I also see this vote as a defence of WhySoMuch from Nreekay and Yomi's 'vampires&werewolves' related votes. I really need to hear from these two as soon as possible, with as much detail as they can provide. I want these votes to have a basis rather than being emotional or defensive votes. Nreekay and Yomi if you two are town you've a strange way of showing it. To me Town is represented by clear, concise and reasoned posts with references and the goal of enlightening the group. Voting for the sake of voting creates an atmosphere of defensive attitudes and alot of misplaced suspicions, please explain your motive. Still waiting from answers from several people. Golden. ... Do you mind explaining this? Especially how in that post you say To me Town is represented by clear, concise and reasoned posts with references and the goal of enlightening the group. and yet your post is contradictory. | ||
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About 2 weeks ago I had some Food Borne Illness, and I was on my computer a lot for quite a while simply because I could get to my bathroom fairly quickly. Mafia seems pretty optimal, because going to the head gives you time to think and you don't have any constrictions (e.g. its hard to play SC because you might have to pause for God knows how long). | ||
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First off, he has one of the fewest post-counts. Secondly, He's bandwaggoning quite a bit. He goes from his post from the start saying As Pure-SC2 said, i share his opinion on the "no lynch" vote since this is a game full of newbies like myself, and there isn't all that information up in the air the first day, which we can use to base good lynches on. His next post You make a good point Golden, lynching luckers would be a good alternative. We might also want to keep an eye out for people who make contentless posts, and as you said act "scummy" and then his third post I noticed the same yomi, they are currently lurking. And back to the "lynch, no lynch" topic, yomi you make a good point is your previous 2 post. we can't just lynch for the sake of lynching, it needs to benefit the town. And just lynching a townie and not learning anything is just a waste. so personally i'd say lynch if suspicion be, and if not? i see no point in random lynching. Finally, he has his own opinion I have to disagree with WhysoMuch Lol no it wouldn't make me happy, but the information we gain from it outweighs the negative. We don't get information from No Lynch because no one dies. The only way we get information is if there is a competing wagon against it, and in that case, that information isn't useful until that said competing wagon dies. Even if nobody is lynched day1, we still gain a ton of imformation through our discussion. Even as we are discussing now, we are starting to get a picture on peoples view points, and where they stand. Sure we get more information when lynching, because we can start to analyse those who were for and those who were againts the lynch. But saying that no information is gained if we don't lynch is just false. Because we still get to anylase peoples behaviour. Unfortunately, a blanket anti-lynch platform seems very scummy to me. It gains the town nothing to wait and see who the mafia kills given how much time we have been given before the first day ends. If there were absolutely no way to guess who was scum, I'd agree that a no lynch is better than a totally random lynch. However, the first day seems a bit long so that we can have a very good discussion before our decision. + Show Spoiler [confession] + Yes, I have essentially flipped entirely from my earlier stance on lynching. I was however, under the impression that we were almost half-way to the first decision point when I first posted. I will do my best act on better information. | ||
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##vote: Veriat But if in the time between now and when I wake up there is another non-helpful/very suspicious player who is close to gaining a majority I shall change my vote accordingly. Also, a lot of people have been fairly inactive. We need everyone's input. If only one member of our crew was posting, the mafia would win easily. We need the lunkers to unburrow. | ||
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On April 28 2012 16:51 O.Golden_ne wrote: can we get a vote count? I believe Artanis said he'd be doing that whenever possible, and he's using MST, so he's probably might be asleep. If so, it may be several hours before we get an official count. Other than that, if you could do a quick, informal count that'd be great. I really need to go to bed though. G'night all. + Show Spoiler [What everyone should do] + post more content | ||
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I am currently favoring a lynch of Veriat, because he didn't post for a good 24 hours, his posts before were pretty contentless, and since his drought he's been very defensive. I will however unvote and vote for Aces if that will help gain a majority. Either way, its decision time. | ||
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## unvote ## vote: AcesAnoka | ||
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I think we need to lynch someone today, and by changing my vote I was able to put one player at 4 votes. Quite frankly, I don't like our chances if we let the mafia score a hit before we do. Originally, I thought we had much less time to analyze and talk, and I considered that a random lynch would be more harmful than no lynch. However, both veriat and Aces are both fairly low in post number and actual content. Simply put, they are not helping our cause. If we can work together as a town, we have a good shot at winning. If, however, we have people who disappear for 24 hours at a time, its going to be very difficult to survive. Also, your lack of voting is making any organization very difficult. IDK if its a scummy thing or if you're just trying to apply the "non-bandwagon" principle from earlier, but we need to work together. If you are against a lynch, tell us why. Otherwise, you basically have to vote for Veriat or Aces. Frankly, they are both not helping much, so I'll vote for either. | ||
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You've completely switched your stance from Oh, the Drama! We're stuck on a spaceship with close quarters. Lazermonkey - Day one is the most important day to analyze. Even though it is a noob game, work needs to be done. Pure-SC2 - The no lynch is a terrible idea. Misslynch is collateral damage. It happens. I'm not playing the hate mafia squad, I dont want to get thrown out the air lock on the first day. and with all this nonsense talk about scheduals and lynch/no lynch, we're forgetting about the real issue here: THERE'S MAFIA SCUM AMONG US. I know it is day one, but does it have to be so passive? I don't want to vote for the wrong person based on three posts and then making one of the first votes based on just a few hours of posts, now you are saying this You switch to being against "bandwaggoning"? At this point, we need a full majority of 7 players to lynch. If you are against no-lynch, then you need to vote for one fo the 2 players whom most people are voting to lynch. It's fairly simple logic, so I'd ask you to either A) vote for someone who has a realistic chance of being @ PureSC2, Both Veriat and Aces have gone lurking for 24 hrs+. This only harms the town. We need to be a unified group, and they are completely ruining any chance of that if they are town. If they are mafia, then we score a hit and they are down to three. Either way, town is much better off with them dead than alive. I switched my vote because we need 7 players to lynch. I think that both of the players who have a realistic chance of being lynched are more harm to the town than help whether they are town or mafia, so I want one of them out, so we can have a hope of becoming a unified team capable of taking down the mafia. Also, Aces has sort of dropped out of the thread at the most important time so far. The harm that's causing if he's town (distracting from the real mafia) is enough that we don't really want to worry about him in the future. | ||
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On April 29 2012 04:50 O.Golden_ne wrote: It's 5:38am where I am, i'm pulling an all nighter to correct my horrible sleeping patterns! Laddering hard to try to get to masters (ugh my ZvP is horrid). I'll be here for the lynch it seems. Though my comprehension at the moment is a little sub-par i'll try and function coherently! Veriat is my current 3rd scum-read, i would be happy to see him lynched. His behaviour and activity level isn't great as stated by several of the others. I cannot tell if he is town or mafia, but as a lurker i find him useless in the debate. In his inactivity lies his downfall, however with AcesAnoka and Nreekay it is their activity that has brought about my suspicions. Which leads me to question everyone in particular those voting for Veriat. If it comes down to AcesAnoka and Veriat do we lynch the flip-flop impulse voters who lurk and post fluff, or the absent veriat who 'stands firm' in his vote with the_zen_man and has otherwise done little. I will change votes only until you can show me AcesAnoka is less of a threat than Veriat. a very sleepy Golden. Hi. I take it you don't really like Aces. I'm sorry. I can't prove to you that Aces isn't scum, or that Veriat is. What I can say is that they are both very suspicious and they are both harming the town with their lurking. What I can also say is that if you change your vote to veriat, I will as well at that point, and then we will need only one more vote to secure a lynch. Also, as I posted earlier, one fo the best ways we'll be able to find mafia is by seeing who will and who won't vote for someone. If confronted with two fairly good candidates for lynching, a townie should be willing to vote for either. However, if one candidate is mafia, the mafia will only vote for the candidate who is town. The rigidity of your statement is very suspicious to me, and I hope its just because you are sleep deprived. You said that you think Veriat may be mafia, and he's been out for one 24ish hour stretch. He also hasn't really contributed anything. Everyone. Please be somewhat flexible. You don't need to be 100% sure that someone is mafia to vote for them, you just have to be sure that the town won't be worse off without them. I personally think that we'd be better off without both, so I will vote for either of them we can get enough support to lynch. | ||
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## Vote: Veriat Splinter, you forgot the colon... | ||
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