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Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
April 22 2012 06:36 GMT
#18
/in I prefer a thread only game as skype/other services but IRC do not function on this university network.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
May 03 2012 03:23 GMT
#249
On May 03 2012 09:42 grush57 wrote:
##vote: Katina


SWEET A BANDWAGON IS FORMING! I think I'll hop on it without explaining myself!

On May 03 2012 10:18 grush57 wrote:
Alright awesome we know the aggressive people now.

##unvote Katina


NEVERMIND, they're onto me!

##vote: grush57

I was not expecting to have a vote so early this game with all the people.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
May 03 2012 03:46 GMT
#251
On May 03 2012 12:39 papapanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 12:23 Sinensis wrote:

##vote: grush57

I was not expecting to have a vote so early this game with all the people.


You better not unvote or else people will think you are just sheeping Blazinghand!

I am going to ##vote blubbdavid as a placeholder for now in case I miss the voting deadline tomorrow. Goodnight.


What the hell are you talking about? If you're having a hard time digesting my first post I can try chewing it for you?

How about this: I am voting grush because he refuses, yes refuses, to explain why he is doing anything he is doing. All he does is vote, unvote, apologize. That's all I expect scum to do.

You are number 2 on my suspicion list Mr. papapanda. I hope you have a good rest.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
May 03 2012 04:06 GMT
#253
EBWOP : Here is another way of thinking of it:

People who don't explain their actions by definition have a secret agenda.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
May 03 2012 05:51 GMT
#259
On May 03 2012 14:09 Nova_Terra wrote:
Hihi, just got up, had like 5 pages to go through already
I cant help but think grush57s move was too dumb for a scum to make. Unless theres some day 1 bus plan going on. Also blubbs "slip" doesnt mean anything.


I can't help but think grush57's move was too dumb for town to make. "2 dumb 2 be scum" isn't a pardon. It doesn't even make sense.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
May 03 2012 20:16 GMT
#331
On May 04 2012 00:20 ghost_403 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Sinesis rolled scum.

On May 03 2012 12:23 Sinensis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 09:42 grush57 wrote:
##vote: Katina


SWEET A BANDWAGON IS FORMING! I think I'll hop on it without explaining myself!

Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 10:18 grush57 wrote:
Alright awesome we know the aggressive people now.

##unvote Katina


NEVERMIND, they're onto me!

##vote: grush57

I was not expecting to have a vote so early this game with all the people.


This post screams "I want to look useful to the town without actually thinking about what's going on."

Good Day 1 lynch.

##vote sinesis


Looks like some random dude voted me because my post screams "I want to look useful to the town without actually thinking about what's going on. [sic]"

I like how he mimics the post he has a problem with by explaining himself with the same mock style I use. I don't care about his snap vote at all, let him be useless for all I care.

grush57 did it occur to you that if you are innocent, you don't need to apologize when you explain why you were doing what you were doing? Being apologetic usually means someone has something to be apologetic about, if you know what I mean. I also don't know where you get off thinking your posts are funny; they're not.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
May 05 2012 05:14 GMT
#603
My suspicious is off grush for now because of D1.

I want to talk now about layabout and why I think he's suspicious.

On May 05 2012 05:43 layabout wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

Katina few posts have been critical of the disruptive play at the beginning, and acted to stamp out the bad.

On May 03 2012 08:00 Katina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 07:22 SomethingAwesome wrote:
On May 03 2012 07:18 blubbdavid wrote:
Haha, we have two scumslips already.

Maybe you don't know but the role PM's for vanilla townie were sent in normal font.

modkill for role PM shit?

idk how to answer this without breaking rules..

you are scum... all townies will know this

-mattchew


You are pretty quick be calling people scum

Katina Implies that the "blub scumslip affair" is stupid (it was) by implying that the accusations are rather hastily made (which further implies that they are poorly thought out)

On May 03 2012 08:11 Katina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 08:02 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 03 2012 08:00 Katina wrote:
On May 03 2012 07:22 SomethingAwesome wrote:
On May 03 2012 07:18 blubbdavid wrote:
Haha, we have two scumslips already.

Maybe you don't know but the role PM's for vanilla townie were sent in normal font.

modkill for role PM shit?

idk how to answer this without breaking rules..

you are scum... all townies will know this

-mattchew


You are pretty quick be calling people scum


Is that your whole contribution to the thread? Please, so overwhelming! Stop contributing so much! I am being sarcastic because this sentence alone that is vaguely, VAGUELY criticizering SA is far less than he has done all game for town.


Game just started honey. You are so quick to run to his defense...

katina points out that BH is being a big drama queen.

On May 03 2012 08:32 Katina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 08:15 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 03 2012 08:14 blubbdavid wrote:
Btw, I sense some kind of BlazingKenpachi party.


Didn't work out so great in Aperture Mafia.

On May 03 2012 08:11 Katina wrote:
On May 03 2012 08:02 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 03 2012 08:00 Katina wrote:
On May 03 2012 07:22 SomethingAwesome wrote:
On May 03 2012 07:18 blubbdavid wrote:
Haha, we have two scumslips already.

Maybe you don't know but the role PM's for vanilla townie were sent in normal font.

modkill for role PM shit?

idk how to answer this without breaking rules..

you are scum... all townies will know this

-mattchew


You are pretty quick be calling people scum


Is that your whole contribution to the thread? Please, so overwhelming! Stop contributing so much! I am being sarcastic because this sentence alone that is vaguely, VAGUELY criticizering SA is far less than he has done all game for town.


Game just started honey. You are so quick to run to his defense...


You're still not contributing, and being indirect. You're scum.

##unvote
##vote: Katina


come at me bro


Not contributing? The game started a couple hours ago.... There hasn't been time. Indirect? Last I checked I was pretty direct with SA.

Katina points out that the game is hours old and that there has not been time to contribute in response to BH's vote on her for not contributing.

On May 04 2012 05:05 Katina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 04:15 grush57 wrote:
On May 04 2012 03:39 blubbdavid wrote:
I am still waiting for grush to be useful. But going through his filter in other games, my hopes will be smited.
Palmar looks like a good lynch candidate too, because he 1) isn't townielike, 2) isn't making much sense 3) voted for me without reasoning.

I assume we still have 24h+ for voting?


Common atleast my useless posts are funny unlike yours. Plus, you didn't understand the situation of that game I played(I'm the same role this game too).

Anyways, I'm not sure what to make of the last 3 pages. It is full of useless posts and spam and Bill Murray didn't even start yet.
Several posts saying nothing except that "I'm town, trust me i gotta go.... eat?" (Like this post except im not hungry atm :D)

For my reasoning of Katina vote, the game just started and blazinghand was accusing Katina for his scumminess, and I agreed so I voted for him, plus I wanted to get the ball rolling. Granted, I realize now this was a dumbshit move that was scummy,and that is my horrible reasoning for it. If you don't like it, Sorry.

I would vote you blubbdavid, but I have enough people witchhunting me now.(And I didn't even rage on ladder how unlucky am I?)
Though, I could just filter and quote everything and that would get the job done.



I like that. BH throws around empty accusations and you jump right on board with this. Looks like a case of something called "Sheeping" Don't worry, it's curable!

BM has been not been his usual posting self lately. He likes to lurk when he is Mafia. He made a few brief posts early on then disappeared into La La land. So that is something to keep an eye on.

I don't like the whole idea of all the vote switching that has been going on here. It's not helpful to the town and brings nothing but confusion and chaos to everyone else. I know it's only day one but at least try to have more than one sentence before getting voting happy.

Criticises grush for sheeping a baseless vote.

Points out how destructive the "lets all vote for no real reason" is and tells the perpetrators to stop.

If Katrina does anything suspicious it is the way in which she puts attention on BM. She tells us that he tend to lurk when he is mafia that he posted earlier and is now lurking. He isn't lurking at the moment. Lurking is playing passively, posting infrequently or posting with consistently low content. BM is inactive in this game since these are his only posts:

+ Show Spoiler +

On May 03 2012 06:46 Bill Murray wrote:
I will extend the day and shorten the next night by one hour. Good luck and have fun.
Nobody died yet.
But don't worry.
what



On May 03 2012 06:46 Bill Murray wrote:
extended days?!
hurray!


Both of which of from the very beginning of the game



You spend a lot of time defending Katina, you also say the only way she is suspicious is "the way in which she puts attention on BM." You defend her again here:

On May 05 2012 05:10 layabout wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Katina has made posts indicative of intelligence.

I do not think we should lynch katina.

Do other people think that this is BS?
On May 05 2012 04:46 SomethingAwesome wrote:
I don't really like layabout much. His inconsistency and lacking response to why his policy lynch is now a good option compared to earlier. The generic first post as pointed out by myself and better pointed out by DoYouHas. If he want to kill us why not vote us instead of steering town towards a werd policy lynch on BM.

(I'm not defending BM. Don't care if he live or die so far)

##Vote Layabout


//Dirk


You also ask what other people think of SomethingAwesome's "BS." I think SomethingAwesome might have been onto something honestly. The first thing you said in the entire game was that you were AGAINST policy lynches and that "they are no better this game than they ever were before"

On May 03 2012 08:04 layabout wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

I just want to warn all of the "area 53" guys that policy lynching is no better an option in this game than it ever was before. I know that a few of you are currently feeling like we should place all lurkers and confusing posters into the fire. But the majority of those players will be town and lynching into them is likely to kill (admittedly useless) townies.

We are going to be polite in this game.

We are going to vote at appropriate times.

We are going to act in town's interest's using methods that are simple and explainable.

And we are going to destroy red.


You then completely disregard your own advice not to policy lynch (below) and vote Bill Murry, who Katina was supposedly suspicious for bringing attention to. Also, if you're not even going to follow the advice you posted not to policy lynch... what was the point in posting that in the first place other than to look like you were contributing when you really weren't?

On May 04 2012 07:35 layabout wrote:
BH you are just bitter because you blew your own leg off after you tried to rocket jump with the wrong boots on.

I think killing something awesome could be a good move. If we still have no candidates when i get up then i think we should just lynch BM.


So you think killing SomethingAwesome could be a good move, presumably because you think he's scum. But instead of building a case around SomethingAwesome, you decide to vote BM based on meta.

since we still have no real candidate
##vote Bill Murray
reasons:
anti-town when town
anti-town when scum
lurks a lot
when he is active he is disruptive


Who are you to decide if there "is no real candidate?" There were plenty of people with plenty of reads at the time. You even repeat this:

We have nobody that looks like scum.

This is the best way to use the lynch.


Then you repeat it again:

Look how few votes the candidate have

Look how weak the cases are

Look how easily the 5 player scumteam could swing the vote

See how unlikely we are to hit mafia

Lynch a player that will be anti town either way.
Vote BillMurray


Last thing, there is no such thing as an anti-town town member. If someone is town, just by being alive they are helping town. Killing an "anti-town" town member is still killing a town member. Killing town players because they "aren't useful anyway" or "are anti town" is scum logic.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
May 05 2012 15:01 GMT
#616
BlackRaven do you want to lynch layabout because of what I said or do you have something else to add?

Also I am still suspicious of papapanda but do not consider him as high a priority as to focus on him right now.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
May 05 2012 21:18 GMT
#657
On May 06 2012 05:44 PaqMan wrote:
I don't like BlackRaven's posting. He has only two posts that are of any sort of significance.

+ Show Spoiler [BR's two significant posts] +
On May 04 2012 03:51 BlackRaven wrote:
Cool, lets's go

Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 02:47 DoYouHas wrote:
Palmar's confrontational and empty 1 liners make it impossible to get a read on him. (anti-town) He is shutting down conversation instead of fostering it. (anti-town) I have no interest in keeping someone around who I won't be able to get a handle on and who I think is hurting the town.

##Vote: Palmar


Firstly, confrontational and empty is an oxymoron in Mafia. Confrontation brings discussion. Discussion good. Discussion not make posts empty.

Secondly, not having a read on someone does not make him anti-town. It makes him just another player in the game. It sure as hell isn't a reason to vote him.

Thirdly.....well see the first point about your second one. He got you talking didn't he?

:3


All this post achieves is soft-defending Palmar and nothing more

On May 04 2012 03:53 BlackRaven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 03:47 DoYouHas wrote:
On May 04 2012 03:42 BlackRaven wrote:
On May 04 2012 03:30 DoYouHas wrote:
Oh, and btw. You are defending Palmar by attacking the person going after him. You discredit me and Palmar no longer has a need to respond.


This is wrong

- D


How is fitting the definition of a chainsaw defense wrong?


If a player ever uses a chainsaw defence as an actual defence they are scum there is no leeway about it and its bad play all around.

People should never use other peoples arguments to make them appear either townie or scum its just bad play and they deserve to be lynched if they do so.

Me and Hassy both still expect things from Palmar at some stage we just both dislike you at the moment.

-D


This entire post is just an altercation with DYH and contributes nothing of value except for the fact that BR doesn't like DYH.


BR's entire filter literally contains nothing more than pointless one-liners. The only thing he's done is ask other people questions and make comments to the side that add no value to discussion. He doesn't make any scumreads nor does he form serious opinions on people.

And his D1 vote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 03:22 BlackRaven wrote:
You know I liked layabout at the start but now he is probably going to cause more harm than if I was a medic...

##Vote: layabout

-D


goes without any sort of good explanation besides "I like him, now I don't."
I see him as a possible lynch candidate if he doesn't pick it up and he's earned my FoS


I don't like basing decisions on meta, but I can say having played with BlackRaven in the past... lots of confrontational 1 liners is par for the course for his town play. I am null on him at the moment and I believe there are better targets at the moment.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
May 06 2012 10:09 GMT
#695
BlazingHand you're brillant right and anyone who so happens to agree with you may as well be sheeping you, right?

What are your expert veteran pro reads on layabout?
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
May 06 2012 10:20 GMT
#698
I'm sorry I shouldn't have copped the attitude all I really wanted was your read on layabout.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
May 06 2012 10:26 GMT
#700
You've got a gift with making lots of compelling, whether or not substantial, words. I'll get you that easily.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
May 06 2012 20:35 GMT
#796
People were quick to agree that layabout was scum, but they are even quicker to agree that Nova_Terra is scum... probably because Nova_Terra is an easy target with his "I don't have time to make posts that aren't scummy" attitude.

I am still probably going to vote layabout today but at the rate things are going, I wouldn't mind hitting Nova_Terra if consolidation needs to happen. Papapanda is a lesser priority right now, but people should still have eyes on him.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
May 06 2012 20:39 GMT
#798
On May 07 2012 05:37 Nova_Terra wrote:
I find blubb leaning slightly scum actually, as his filter is a mass of 1 liners which barely say anything of note and defense of himself. I do find it strange that he isnt pushing me if he is scum, because im an obvious target and it would be a super ez town lynch.


Jesus man you call that a defense? Defense implies defending yourself, not incriminating yourself.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
May 06 2012 20:40 GMT
#801
On May 07 2012 05:39 Nova_Terra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2012 05:35 Sinensis wrote:
People were quick to agree that layabout was scum, but they are even quicker to agree that Nova_Terra is scum... probably because Nova_Terra is an easy target with his "I don't have time to make posts that aren't scummy" attitude.

^
I dont think the problem is making scummy posts in my case, i think its just lack of posts


WELL IF YOU THINK THAT THEN YOU ARE WRONG :D
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
May 06 2012 20:44 GMT
#806
PacMan why do you keep asking me for my reads I have already posted them. Go read my filter instead of quoting yourself over and over again.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
May 07 2012 01:32 GMT
#830
On May 07 2012 05:55 PaqMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2012 05:44 Sinensis wrote:
PacMan why do you keep asking me for my reads I have already posted them. Go read my filter instead of quoting yourself over and over again.


I did read your filter and your only FoS so far is on layabout.

And please explain this:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2012 06:18 Sinensis wrote:
On May 06 2012 05:44 PaqMan wrote:
I don't like BlackRaven's posting. He has only two posts that are of any sort of significance.

+ Show Spoiler [BR's two significant posts] +
On May 04 2012 03:51 BlackRaven wrote:
Cool, lets's go

Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 02:47 DoYouHas wrote:
Palmar's confrontational and empty 1 liners make it impossible to get a read on him. (anti-town) He is shutting down conversation instead of fostering it. (anti-town) I have no interest in keeping someone around who I won't be able to get a handle on and who I think is hurting the town.

##Vote: Palmar


Firstly, confrontational and empty is an oxymoron in Mafia. Confrontation brings discussion. Discussion good. Discussion not make posts empty.

Secondly, not having a read on someone does not make him anti-town. It makes him just another player in the game. It sure as hell isn't a reason to vote him.

Thirdly.....well see the first point about your second one. He got you talking didn't he?

:3


All this post achieves is soft-defending Palmar and nothing more

On May 04 2012 03:53 BlackRaven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 03:47 DoYouHas wrote:
On May 04 2012 03:42 BlackRaven wrote:
On May 04 2012 03:30 DoYouHas wrote:
Oh, and btw. You are defending Palmar by attacking the person going after him. You discredit me and Palmar no longer has a need to respond.


This is wrong

- D


How is fitting the definition of a chainsaw defense wrong?


If a player ever uses a chainsaw defence as an actual defence they are scum there is no leeway about it and its bad play all around.

People should never use other peoples arguments to make them appear either townie or scum its just bad play and they deserve to be lynched if they do so.

Me and Hassy both still expect things from Palmar at some stage we just both dislike you at the moment.

-D


This entire post is just an altercation with DYH and contributes nothing of value except for the fact that BR doesn't like DYH.


BR's entire filter literally contains nothing more than pointless one-liners. The only thing he's done is ask other people questions and make comments to the side that add no value to discussion. He doesn't make any scumreads nor does he form serious opinions on people.

And his D1 vote:
On May 05 2012 03:22 BlackRaven wrote:
You know I liked layabout at the start but now he is probably going to cause more harm than if I was a medic...

##Vote: layabout

-D


goes without any sort of good explanation besides "I like him, now I don't."
I see him as a possible lynch candidate if he doesn't pick it up and he's earned my FoS


I don't like basing decisions on meta, but I can say having played with BlackRaven in the past... lots of confrontational 1 liners is par for the course for his town play. I am null on him at the moment and I believe there are better targets at the moment.


Can you not read? I'll read it for you.

It means I don't like basing decisions on information outside of the game... but that having played with mattchew/D before lots of confrontational 1 liners seems normal for town play. I go on to say that I am null on him and that there are other priorities to consider first.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
May 07 2012 01:59 GMT
#832
Oh sorry I got the hydra players mixed up. Disregard everything I said about BlackRaven.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
May 07 2012 08:49 GMT
#899
I'm going to flip a coin. Heads is layabout, tails is NT:
.
..
...
Looks like it's Nova_Terra
##vote: Nova_Terra
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
May 08 2012 03:44 GMT
#1004
If either layabout, NT, or ghost isn't dead by morning I will be disappointed.
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