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Nova_Terra
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Switzerland1190 Posts
April 21 2012 21:07 GMT
#10
/in
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Nova_Terra
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Switzerland1190 Posts
April 21 2012 22:03 GMT
#12
Sup froggy
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Nova_Terra
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Switzerland1190 Posts
April 22 2012 08:18 GMT
#22
On April 22 2012 08:12 froggynoddy wrote:
Hey NT, won't let you kill me so easily this time :p

Thats okay, i enjoy crushing hopes of success even more
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Nova_Terra
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Switzerland1190 Posts
April 28 2012 22:33 GMT
#107
aghhhhh we neeeeed more /ins!
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Nova_Terra
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Switzerland1190 Posts
May 03 2012 05:09 GMT
#258
Hihi, just got up, had like 5 pages to go through already
I cant help but think grush57s move was too dumb for a scum to make. Unless theres some day 1 bus plan going on. Also blubbs "slip" doesnt mean anything.
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Nova_Terra
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May 03 2012 14:06 GMT
#277
On May 03 2012 14:51 Sinensis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 14:09 Nova_Terra wrote:
Hihi, just got up, had like 5 pages to go through already
I cant help but think grush57s move was too dumb for a scum to make. Unless theres some day 1 bus plan going on. Also blubbs "slip" doesnt mean anything.


I can't help but think grush57's move was too dumb for town to make. "2 dumb 2 be scum" isn't a pardon. It doesn't even make sense.

No, it makes sense, but it isnt a pardon, i agree. Im null on him, not finding him townie because of him being too dumb. And mafia are much more careful than town.
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Nova_Terra
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Switzerland1190 Posts
May 03 2012 20:44 GMT
#334
On May 04 2012 05:16 Sinensis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 00:20 ghost_403 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Sinesis rolled scum.

On May 03 2012 12:23 Sinensis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 09:42 grush57 wrote:
##vote: Katina


SWEET A BANDWAGON IS FORMING! I think I'll hop on it without explaining myself!

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On May 03 2012 10:18 grush57 wrote:
Alright awesome we know the aggressive people now.

##unvote Katina


NEVERMIND, they're onto me!

##vote: grush57

I was not expecting to have a vote so early this game with all the people.


This post screams "I want to look useful to the town without actually thinking about what's going on."

Good Day 1 lynch.

##vote sinesis


Looks like some random dude voted me because my post screams "I want to look useful to the town without actually thinking about what's going on. [sic]"

I like how he mimics the post he has a problem with by explaining himself with the same mock style I use. I don't care about his snap vote at all, let him be useless for all I care.

But his point is still completely valid
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Nova_Terra
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Switzerland1190 Posts
May 04 2012 05:43 GMT
#400
On May 04 2012 07:19 Blazinghand wrote:
Clearly grush is going for the "too dumb/bad/newb to be scum" tactic but I will not be swayed by such tickery!

seeing as you suggested that that is a tactic, it is safe to assume that many town players do this and therefore it is a scum tactic. And so too dumb/bad to be scum is a completely valid argument. apparently thats too vague for you, so
I think grush isnt scum and will not vote for him today.
Im fine with defending someone i think isnt scum.
Also dont summarise my content incorrectly. I never said anything about having no scumreads, just none worthy of noting yet.

I think ghosts points are completely valid, but i am 1. not bandwagoning until i am more sure and 2. not pressing an issue which has already been pressed. Its not smart to make a bandwagoning snap vote for the exact same reasons as a player before. Im just keeping sinensis at the back of my mind.
Blazinghand, why would you choose me as likely to be scum instead of sinensis, for instance? Sinensis doesnt contribute, but you seem to want to defend him.



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Nova_Terra
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Switzerland1190 Posts
May 04 2012 05:46 GMT
#401
i resent the fact that many of the players here are well known and have much more sway because of it. I dont even feel like posting when someone will just as easily do something else and get followed.
And also there are other reasons for not posting much other than being scum.
Right now i think it would be correct to be shooting into the lurker crowd.
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Nova_Terra
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Switzerland1190 Posts
May 04 2012 15:16 GMT
#415
On May 04 2012 14:57 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 14:43 Nova_Terra wrote:
On May 04 2012 07:19 Blazinghand wrote:
Clearly grush is going for the "too dumb/bad/newb to be scum" tactic but I will not be swayed by such tickery!

seeing as you suggested that that is a tactic, it is safe to assume that many town players do this and therefore it is a scum tactic. And so too dumb/bad to be scum is a completely valid argument.


1. I've been here on TL Mafia for about half a year. I've played in nearly a dozen games of Mafia. I argue a lot on the internet in general. You might say I've seen a lot of arguments. I mention this to be absolutely unambigous when I say: this is some of the worst logic I have ever encountered. I suggested it's a scum tactic. That scum use. Too dumb to be scum isn't a valid argument, and the FACT that I say it isn't a valid argument can't MAKE it a valid argument. I don't even know how to interact with you after a phrase like that.


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On May 04 2012 14:43 Nova_Terra wrote:
Also dont summarise my content incorrectly. I never said anything about having no scumreads, just none worthy of noting yet.

2. That's the same thing. Not posting scumreads = not having scumreads. The town benefits from conversation. You were not helping.

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On May 04 2012 14:43 Nova_Terra wrote:
Blazinghand, why would you choose me as likely to be scum instead of sinensis, for instance? Sinensis doesnt contribute, but you seem to want to defend him.

3.This is a fair question. Allow me to explain: sinensis made this post:+ Show Spoiler +

On May 03 2012 12:46 Sinensis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 12:39 papapanda wrote:
On May 03 2012 12:23 Sinensis wrote:

##vote: grush57

I was not expecting to have a vote so early this game with all the people.


You better not unvote or else people will think you are just sheeping Blazinghand!

I am going to ##vote blubbdavid as a placeholder for now in case I miss the voting deadline tomorrow. Goodnight.


What the hell are you talking about? If you're having a hard time digesting my first post I can try chewing it for you?

How about this: I am voting grush because he refuses, yes refuses, to explain why he is doing anything he is doing. All he does is vote, unvote, apologize. That's all I expect scum to do.

You are number 2 on my suspicion list Mr. papapanda. I hope you have a good rest.


In this post he calls out Panda, explains his vote on grush, and says panda is a scumread of his. In this singular post he does more than you have done all game.

This doesn't mean Sinensis is necessarily town. But he contributed a butt ton more than you did.

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On May 04 2012 14:46 Nova_Terra wrote:
i resent the fact that many of the players here are well known and have much more sway because of it. I dont even feel like posting when someone will just as easily do something else and get followed.
And also there are other reasons for not posting much other than being scum.
Right now i think it would be correct to be shooting into the lurker crowd.


4. I don't care WHAT your reason is for not posting much. I don't care if you're butthurt, or if you're too busy having dinner made for you by your mom. It doesn't matter, it's not relevant. What *is* relevant is this game. To win this game, we need to talk. You haven't been talking. You still haven't posted a legit scumread. Currently your most aggressive pressure on sinensis is:

Show nested quote +
Im just keeping sinensis at the back of my mind.


5.Are you serious? You think that's helping? That a phrase like THAT will pressure him into responding to allegations? That's so waffly, so utterly useless, so inconceivably deprived of utility, that I can't even say you've done anything this game.

Anything at all.

Scum.

1. You suggested its a scum tactic. It doesnt make sense to say that its a common scum tactic when town dont do it commonly. Now it just seems like you are purposely misunderstanding me.

2. Just wrong, I can have scumreads that i do not feel should be posted until i can get more infos to back them up. as i do.

3. Fair answer

4. That wasnt a post as an excuse for lurking. Its that for instance a known name like you will have a better sway than say, me, in a random trust based situation. Just saying how that bothers me. Its just how it is. I will not be pressured into making a scumread while it still has a very high probability of error because of very low post count. If this was a newbie game, i wouldnt have a problem with making a scumread this early and voting on it. but it isnt, and so far I do not find it advantageous to play as if it was.

5. Its obvious that he isnt responding to allegations as of yet, therefore im waiting for him to post more or not post at all. I dont see a problem with saying that im keeping him in my mind.

OH maybe if you tell me that im scum more my role will change
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Nova_Terra
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland1190 Posts
May 04 2012 15:21 GMT
#417
On May 04 2012 22:58 Mementoss wrote:
BH, I agree with most of your points on Nova Terra I actually had the same notes as you did. His response today was also lackluster. In the games I played/observed with when he was vanilla town he was all over the place trying to push discussion. I think his "im intimidated by vets" is just an excuse for him to lurk and post when it feels convenient. Not committed to saying anything solid, stuff like I don't think hes scum for sure, and I'll keep him in the back of my mind. It could be a situation where Nova rolled scum.


Post a solid statement, not pretty much agree with someone and rephrase their stuff. Also i find this funny
Not committed to saying anything solid, stuff like I don't think hes scum for sure

It could be a situation where Nova rolled scum.

Just lol

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Nova_Terra
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland1190 Posts
May 04 2012 21:00 GMT
#482
In accordance with popular demand, i will share my top scumread which is currently Mementoss (not based on OMGUS)

mementoss starts off suggesting to policy lynch two people, etc. Makes a few totally unneccessary 1 liners, and then when he is called out on it he goes NO WAIT i has reason, then decided to teach us, which just came off freaking weird.
Then he goes aggressive on layabout, throwing suspicion while not doing much of anything, then joins the Grush did something scummy this looks really bad group. not original. then after blazing notes something on me he joins in that too, and makes remarks in an unsure way, seeming to want to be able to backtrack if necessary. then, when called out on it, he goes into defensive aggression mode and suddenly gains massive confidence which hadnt been in his play before.
Overall
1liners
Enlightens us on 1 liners
throws suspicion while not doing much at all
joins scummy bandwagon
seems unsure
agrees with an Oh i noticed the same thing!
makes arguments based on my meta, which is questionable entirely based on the fact that i never play this lurky, town or scum
randomly gets massively confident, as opposed to his earlier play, its as if someone told him to be more sure

and so ##Vote: Mementoss



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Nova_Terra
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Switzerland1190 Posts
May 04 2012 21:05 GMT
#489
On May 05 2012 06:00 Mementoss wrote:
I expected to come back to people actually voting, and people posting why they are good votes. I come back to 10 people still haven't voted with an hour left, and everyone in the thread just posted one liners about names out of a hat who to vote, without any reasoning at all.

How does this post help anything in any way
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Nova_Terra
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland1190 Posts
May 04 2012 21:06 GMT
#490
On May 05 2012 06:00 Mementoss wrote:
I expected to come back to people actually voting, and people posting why they are good votes. I come back to 10 people still haven't voted with an hour left, and everyone in the thread just posted one liners about names out of a hat who to vote, without any reasoning at all.

This is like a Hey look at me, im active and useful and shame on you all for doing wrong!
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Nova_Terra
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Switzerland1190 Posts
May 04 2012 21:17 GMT
#501
On May 05 2012 06:09 layabout wrote:
Nova, i think it illustrates how pissed we should all be that 10/26 players in the game didn't feel like it was worth voting before now and that a number of them are likely to be modkilled

Sorry, it might be that im a bit bitter about the fact that tons of people are gonna be modkilled and posts that do nothing but further point that out just feels like rubbing it in my face.
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Nova_Terra
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Switzerland1190 Posts
May 04 2012 21:50 GMT
#526
On May 05 2012 06:31 Kenpachi wrote:
ARE YOU GUYS KIDDING ME? DO YOU NOT NOTICE THE TREND HERE?

NT i thought at first was not mafia but then layabout cames along and throws in POLICY LYNCH TIME
NO
NO
NO
WTF? NO

i believe layabout and NT are mafia together because NT NT had aroused suspicions in thread andended in hotshit. He was completely saved by something so stupid. layabout, as his buttbuddy saves him with such a weak push that only the newbs are following.
by experience, policy lynch almost always never works. its a scare tactic, not an actual method used to lynch people, especially day 1
i also believe marvellosity is mafia with them because he said NT is scummy and changes his mind like nothing happened

Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 02:43 marvellosity wrote:
At the moment Nova looks the scummiest for reasons already expanded upon by others. The fact that so little of anything has occurred today makes Nova's stance that he doesn't want to air his tentative reads all the worse.


Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 05:53 marvellosity wrote:
Sold, I don't have a solid scumread on anyone and BM is just useless and anti-town no matter his alignment.

such a contradiction, they were made about 3 hours apart.

BM is a potent player and everyone knows that. I feel day 1 lynching a veteran is the worst thing you can do. If i were mafia, id put BM near the top of my priority list just because of his sheer experience.

Oh wonderful, a connection case. Nothing quite like totally breaking the window of nice town atmosphere.
This doesnt make any sense. he thinks im not mafia but then suddenly does because people dont immediately vote me and instead make a different target. And suddenly those people are mafia too. wtf you said you thought i was townie until these people thought i was townie.
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Nova_Terra
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Switzerland1190 Posts
May 04 2012 21:52 GMT
#529
Can we plz kill kenpachi soon
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May 04 2012 22:00 GMT
#544
On May 05 2012 06:56 Blazinghand wrote:
OH WAIT DO WE HAVE A CHANCE TO KILL N_T NEVER MIND WE'RE GOING BACK TO HIM

##unvote
##vote N_T

cute
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Nova_Terra
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Switzerland1190 Posts
May 04 2012 22:02 GMT
#548
On May 05 2012 07:01 Blazinghand wrote:
Also, happy birthday

Its actually in 2 days, i was just retarded when i set that lol
thanks though
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Nova_Terra
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Switzerland1190 Posts
May 04 2012 22:02 GMT
#550
On May 05 2012 07:01 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 07:00 Nova_Terra wrote:
On May 05 2012 06:56 Blazinghand wrote:
OH WAIT DO WE HAVE A CHANCE TO KILL N_T NEVER MIND WE'RE GOING BACK TO HIM

##unvote
##vote N_T

cute

I hope you die

I hope you learn
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