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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 01:10:37
April 21 2012 01:09 GMT
#34
/in

unless there are more worthy foes (likely)

also, don't modkill me pretty please. unless it will cause me masochistic pleasure
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 22 2012 10:43 GMT
#91
On April 22 2012 11:29 MrZentor wrote:

Goodness, you're thick.


This could also apply to voting for yourself to start discussion.

I don't really see your case on prplhz either. Just a humour failure, and I'm not sure why clarifying hydras signing their name is supposed to be a non-constructive thing at the start of a game.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 22 2012 22:36 GMT
#144
On April 23 2012 07:34 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 05:58 SamuelLJackson wrote:
On April 23 2012 05:46 Ace wrote:
Why would we be generating encrypted strings when both Masons can just claim Day 2? We're doing extra work for nothing. If they aren't in the game then we just move on.

That being said I really don't think there's masons in here because of what I said earlier and would rather talk about scumreads instead. No responses about what I said about VE?


I skimmed the first few pages of VE's last several games. This seems like by far the least he's posted in the first 24 hours of any game recently, as scum or as town or as SK.

The one thing I did notice was that it seems like he tries to lead when he's town but not by pushing lynch targets, but rather by telling everyone else why their lynch targets are wrong; he's not doing that this game, but he's not doing anything yet either. (at least compared to normal)


Did you not see whichever game it was where he singlehandedly led the lynch on Cyber Cheese?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 22 2012 23:01 GMT
#147
I have to say, it would be superhandy to have the filters in the player list.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 22 2012 23:34 GMT
#151
On April 23 2012 08:10 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 08:01 marvellosity wrote:
I have to say, it would be superhandy to have the filters in the player list.

I agree with this.

While you are here, would you mind building on your own filter? We´ve talked about masons the first half of the day, during this time, have you found anyone suspicious?


Just had a read over it now, as honestly it made my eyes glaze a little the first time. Regarding the masons thing, it seems that no-one really particularly disagrees with anything, there's just pros and cons of claiming right away and later such as on Day 3.

Nothing screamed at me scummy, and I'm not too sure on the case against VE. Sure I know it's a Day 1 case, but it seems to have even less substance than usual.

Also very hard to tell just who's lurking and posting and whatnot without the lovely filter list :x
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 23 2012 11:05 GMT
#178
I don't think Zentor is scum atm. Instead of looking at his scum game, look at Space Station where he was town. He managed to be at the top of numerous people's suspicious list although he was town (and performing very townie actions in PM-land).
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 23 2012 12:10 GMT
#184
On April 23 2012 21:08 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 20:05 marvellosity wrote:
I don't think Zentor is scum atm. Instead of looking at his scum game, look at Space Station where he was town. He managed to be at the top of numerous people's suspicious list although he was town (and performing very townie actions in PM-land).

Zentor can´t be scum, because he´s a good Town player? What if he´s a bad scumplayer too? He hasn´t done that many suspicious things lately, fine, I don´t have much else to complain about, but I can´t agree with those who defend him by essentially saying "only a bad player would make a stupid mistake like that". Whatever, noone cares about Zentor.


No, you misunderstand me a little I think. I was saying in Space Station he played suspiciously/scummy on thread and he was town there. Similar could appply here.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 23 2012 12:38 GMT
#192
On April 23 2012 21:26 strongandbig wrote:
Also: I'm kind of suspicious of ace's focus on game mechanics day1 given how pissed he was in the ss mafia postgame analysis about how that game was won using mechanics rather than analysis. I would have expected him to focus on analysis this game.


I think there's a marked difference between discussing the mechanics here (blue roles, benefits of how to use) and the PM mass claim in Space Station. Two different beasts.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 23 2012 12:40 GMT
#194
On April 23 2012 21:31 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 21:10 marvellosity wrote:
On April 23 2012 21:08 Forumite wrote:
On April 23 2012 20:05 marvellosity wrote:
I don't think Zentor is scum atm. Instead of looking at his scum game, look at Space Station where he was town. He managed to be at the top of numerous people's suspicious list although he was town (and performing very townie actions in PM-land).

Zentor can´t be scum, because he´s a good Town player? What if he´s a bad scumplayer too? He hasn´t done that many suspicious things lately, fine, I don´t have much else to complain about, but I can´t agree with those who defend him by essentially saying "only a bad player would make a stupid mistake like that". Whatever, noone cares about Zentor.


No, you misunderstand me a little I think. I was saying in Space Station he played suspiciously/scummy on thread and he was town there. Similar could appply here.

Are you saying that some scenario could apply in this situation?

You're absolutely right!.. But it's a lot more interesting to discuss whether or not it actually does apply in this situation. How do you feel about MrZentor self voting allegedly just to see responses (kind of admitting it is out of character) and then when I respond to it he's says it I am just asking stupid questions, even though I am just questioning some odd post (which is what townies generally do)?


For now I would say it could sound somewhat scummy, but more information is required. From what I know of Zentor I reckon it more likely that he would be belligerent/odd as town than scum. This is NOT saying he has a free pass to do stupid stuff, just opinion on what he's done so far.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 23 2012 19:21 GMT
#242
s&b's effort on Snarfs is the best I've seen so far, and due to my own failure to make good scum-reads, that will be where my vote will rest atm.

##Vote: Snarfs
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 23 2012 19:39 GMT
#248
On April 24 2012 04:29 Snarfs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 04:21 marvellosity wrote:
s&b's effort on Snarfs is the best I've seen so far, and due to my own failure to make good scum-reads, that will be where my vote will rest atm.

##Vote: Snarfs

Did you read my response to his case? I addressed everything he said. Also, why would you choose to sheep s&b when there are probably at least a half dozen more reputedly decent scum hunters in this game?


What of them? Ace has nothing, VE is looking to consolidate, sandroba as far as I can see basically has nothing.

There's a shit-ton of nothing.

s&b's points all seemed reasonable and your defence was almost purely meta, where I haven't seen people backing you up on it.

What is the consolidated case on Radfield?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 23 2012 20:32 GMT
#259
Because I'm new and bad, obviously
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 23 2012 20:36 GMT
#261
I knew the end of the day would go this way. Every single Day 1 I've had I've looked bad; apparently this is something I'm seriously going to have to work on - I just haven't mastered the knack of manufacturing content when there is little material yet.

We're gonna drift into that lovely situation where town's gonna lynch me although no-one really thinks I'm scum, and everyone will be like "well, that kinda sucks, but hey ho whatcha gonna do"
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 23 2012 20:59 GMT
#266
On April 24 2012 05:55 prplhz wrote:
@marvellosity Why are you acting all indignant? What makes you think that town is just apathetically and inevitably going to lynch you?


Where was the indignation? I'm just looking at the flow of the game and the votes objectively.

I've not been terribly productive because I've not found anything to be terribly productive about. I've been transparent that I've had null scum reads.

I've asked on separate occasions what the cases were on VE and on Radfield to try to get a handle on anything, but I wasn't responded to.

I voted for Snarfs because s&b's case seemed coherent, and like I said Snarfs' defence seemed to be meta and he wasn't backed up on it.

I admitted my Day 1s were bad, because clearly my Day 1s are bad.

This is just the way things are the way I see it at the moment.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 23 2012 21:03 GMT
#268
I would like to note that there has been no opposition to the growing bandwagon of my lynch when clearly scum has had the options to direct the vote almost anywhere with a maximum of 2 votes on any one person.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 23 2012 21:10 GMT
#272
On April 24 2012 06:06 prplhz wrote:
@Sbrubbles Yea, I don't really know who's scum and I was feeling frustrated with it all. The case seemed kind of alright and it still does.



Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 05:59 marvellosity wrote:
On April 24 2012 05:55 prplhz wrote:
@marvellosity Why are you acting all indignant? What makes you think that town is just apathetically and inevitably going to lynch you?


Where was the indignation? I'm just looking at the flow of the game and the votes objectively.

I've not been terribly productive because I've not found anything to be terribly productive about. I've been transparent that I've had null scum reads.

I've asked on separate occasions what the cases were on VE and on Radfield to try to get a handle on anything, but I wasn't responded to.

I voted for Snarfs because s&b's case seemed coherent, and like I said Snarfs' defence seemed to be meta and he wasn't backed up on it.

I admitted my Day 1s were bad, because clearly my Day 1s are bad.

This is just the way things are the way I see it at the moment.

How are they clearly bad? Do you often find yourself in this situation?


In Newbie VI I played pretty badly for the first couple of days, and right at the endgame, the final townie left his vote until one minute from the final deadline before finally siding with me, as my 2nd half had finally made up for my first half.

Take a look at the ongoing Mafia LIII for something else, although I can't talk about it.

Take a look at this game.

Then take a look at Mafia LI where everybody generally agreed I played decently and appeared clearly townie. There I replaced in at the start of Day 2.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 23 2012 21:30 GMT
#280
Sigh. I dislike the fact that I'm scummy because I've not been able to form a decent read although I have been extremely transparent about it. I dislike the fact no-one answered my questions on VE/Radfield cases. I dislike the fact that there's been no opposition to my lynch.

Objectively the way this lynch is going down is making it pretty clear this is going to be a mislynch.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 23 2012 21:58 GMT
#301
Toad, your point is just terrible. The fact that I wasn't mentioned earlier in the game is extremely circumstancial. There were many non-posters and lurkers at the start of the game

The thing that ISN'T circumstancial is the fact that the lynch on me gently drifted into being without anyone trying to prevent it.

You should be able to discern the difference between the two. Engage logic please.

Although Snarfs only has one vote less than me, I'm going to unvote him and vote for the no-lynch. It has good grounding and with no-one being certain of anything it seems a decent option at this point.

##Unvote
##Vote: No Lynch
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 23 2012 22:02 GMT
#305
Shit, Zentor is scum isn't he :/
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 23 2012 22:03 GMT
#309
Would you care to actually answer his case, or dismiss it out of hand with no reasoning, Zentor?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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