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ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
April 14 2012 16:23 GMT
#7
/in
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
April 19 2012 17:13 GMT
#82
I've decided to completely ignore my role PM, so I'm confirming now.

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just kidding
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probably

They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
April 20 2012 20:35 GMT
#121
And that why if/when I roll vig, I'm shooting VE N0.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
April 21 2012 21:57 GMT
#347
All right, /confrim.

Sorry I've been gone for the last day. The time I can spend in the thread is going to be limited for the next couple of days. After the 25th, I should be back to full steam.

Now to find some scum. Only got 12 pages to go through. Shouldn't be too hard.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
April 21 2012 22:50 GMT
#372
@BJ + Show Spoiler +
lol
4F doesn't deserve to die in any game. That guy was a genius at finding scum, he just didn't know it.

VE is probably scum. Accusing gonzaw of a scumslip is just terribad, and someone of his experience should know better. Also, the idea of a JK working against the town is such a fashion is WTF bad. If he was a noob, I would give him a pass, but he's not. He should know better than that.

Sentinel obviously rolled scum this game. His filter has nothing of content, and when layabout called him out, it took him 15 minutes to unlurk, at which point he added nothing to the conversation. He's here, but not contributing at all. I think he would make an excellent Day 1 lynch.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
April 21 2012 23:09 GMT
#376
@paqman: I have you down as an idiot (sorry). You're not paying close attention to the thread and not thinking through what you say. I'm not ready to say town or scum, and I don't like making cases for or against players when I think there is scum that we should be frying.

Mattchew has nothing of content in his filter, and I don't have anything substantial in my notes on him. It will be interesting to see if that improves as we get further into the game.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
April 21 2012 23:12 GMT
#378
@gonzaw: I think a town should be focused in what they do, so I don't like throwing votes around all over the place. If I had to vote for one of them right now, I would vote sentinel over VE. My only reservations about voting VE at the moment is that I think he should play a better scum game, but I can see his scumslip case as something he was hoping other townies would catch on to and run with.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
April 21 2012 23:46 GMT
#397
@paq: Why do you care so much what I think about you? I'm not going to try and lynch you today, and I don't think that your alignment says anything about Mattchew.

@marv: I agree with gonzaw. Stop giving us excuses and help us find scum. Pending the results of his usefulness, I think I'm not disinclined to lynching Marv today.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
April 22 2012 00:11 GMT
#414
@paqman: I really don't understand why I have to waste my time responding to this, but here it goes.

That note stems directly from your "There can't be more than 3 vigs" comment. Apparently, it's because you were paying attention to something else. Okay, that's fine, whatever. Why do you keep bringing this up? Who cares? Stop watching TV while posting, and find scum. As a town, we have better things to do than discuss why you did something dumb.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
April 22 2012 00:16 GMT
#419
@johnny: I did. I wanna lynch Sentinel. Wanna help me out?
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
April 22 2012 00:35 GMT
#429
@paqman: This is how I contribute. I find scum, I tell people they are scum, and I beat them to a pulp when they respond to me thinking they are scum. If Sentinel bothered to poke his head in the thread, I'd be beating the crap out of him at the moment. See TLM LI.

@gonzaw: I don't like everyone voting all over the place, but I can see exactly what you're saying, so I'm going to
##vote [UoN]Sentinel
because I think he's playing the scummiest at the moment. (This me not liking to vote is really something I need to get out of my usual play.) VE's disappearance from should be noted.

As far as this change of heart, I don't see it as a change of heart. Not all bad play is scummy play. What I was trying to get across there is that I think that Sentinel is the better lynch out of the two of them.

@johnny: I hate writing up cases against people. I pointed it out that I think he's scummy here. I think big posts are a waste of time and space, but that's probably why no one listens to me in these games.

brb, writing up a big poast.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
April 22 2012 00:50 GMT
#433
BIG POAST TIEM
or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Decided to Lynch Sentinel




3 posts really doesn't give you much to go on.

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On April 21 2012 11:39 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Just wondering, what's the chance gonzaw's not mafia but just making an extremely retarded point?

At any rate, what I don't get is number 6. If I was GF pretending to be vig, I'd shoot as many of the other vigs as I could. And if I was JK, I'd protect those vigs who I trust to be either town vigs or some other blues.


I don't like this post. It reading this post out of context implies that everyone has already come to the conclusion that gonzaw is mafia, when that isn't at all what's happening in the thread. Up to this point, VE is the only person who's pushed this idea at all. IMO, this is him hedging his bets. I can see him allowing a gonzaw lynch, gonzaw flips green, and him saying "Called it! I'm townie!"

In addition, this is not how you discuss another posters post. Just saying "I don't agree" is not the least bit helpful to the town.

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On April 22 2012 01:20 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I'm starting to think all of you people purposely post when I sleep

Let's do it like this - everyone just do whatever the fuck they want as long as it's beneficial in some way to town. If it's not beneficial in some way to town, then lynch them. If there's one thing I know, it's that voting/lynching/etc. plans always benefit mafia because they can pull them to their advantage (and also you get lynched when your plan especially sucks).

Keeping in mind with this train of thought, I will proceed to do whatever the fuck I want as long as it's beneficial in some way to town. When I get back, I'll read filters and try and put more on the table.


"Hey guys, let's not work together at all!" Towns have to work together. Instead, he's encouraging anarchy, and giving himself a pass to do it.

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On April 22 2012 01:58 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2012 01:42 layabout wrote:
How are you feeling VE?

Any thoughts on marvellosity paqman or mattchew?


we need Risen to rise and get posting
we need ghost 403 to de-cloak
we need St.Daniel to grace us with his presence
we need Janaan to get out of bed
we need slOosh to stop fapping to Beethoven*
we need BroodkingEXE to execute som scum for us
we need Bill Murray to get his head in the game
we need Zephirrd to tell you guys to stop posting shit
we need layabout to stop with the puns lead us to victory



Shit, should've stayed AFK. I wanted a pun too


Worthless post, and it was posted 15 minutes after layabout's original post. I'm pretty sure Ver said something about lurkers posting exactly this way in his guide. Clearly, he's here. Clearly he's not doing anything.

At this point, Sentinel has had plenty of time to contribute something, anything, to this town, and he has not. I believe that this is not because he is busy, but because he's scum.

tl;dr - vote sentinel.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
April 22 2012 00:51 GMT
#435
@gonzaw: give me a minute to read the case you're referencing.

BTWs, 15 minute warning. I'm hungry.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
April 22 2012 01:02 GMT
#441
Ghost's response to sloosh's case on VE.

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You guys are really cutting into my internet spaceships time.+ Show Spoiler +
Join the Hatchery!


Point 1) I totally agree with sloosh's point here. VE's idea that a JK would work against a claimed vig is just stupid, and one of the first things he said that made me think that he was scum.

Point 2) I thought his scumslip argument was stupid. Said that already.

Point 3) Yeah, I agree with that. VE avoided discussing most of his counterarguments.

Point 4) I agree with this.

Well, I'm sold. I'm happy with a VE lynch. VE today, Sentinel tomorrow?

BONUS: Hey! Sentinel decided to join us!
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
April 22 2012 01:12 GMT
#450
@sentinel

On April 22 2012 10:04 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2012 09:50 ghost_403 wrote:
BIG POAST TIEM
or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Decided to Lynch Sentinel




3 posts really doesn't give you much to go on.

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 21 2012 11:39 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Just wondering, what's the chance gonzaw's not mafia but just making an extremely retarded point?

At any rate, what I don't get is number 6. If I was GF pretending to be vig, I'd shoot as many of the other vigs as I could. And if I was JK, I'd protect those vigs who I trust to be either town vigs or some other blues.


I don't like this post. It reading this post out of context implies that everyone has already come to the conclusion that gonzaw is mafia, when that isn't at all what's happening in the thread. Up to this point, VE is the only person who's pushed this idea at all. IMO, this is him hedging his bets. I can see him allowing a gonzaw lynch, gonzaw flips green, and him saying "Called it! I'm townie!"

No, this is called "Disregard bandwagon, acquire opinions." I wanted my question answered, and thus I asked the question. Also I have a penchant for making acidic posts like that one. If you don't like it, I'm doing my job right.


My problem is there wasn't a bandwagon. You make it sound like the entire town has gonzaw up on the gallows, when really it's just VE standing in the center of the town screaming that gonzaw is scum.

Also, that wasn't a question. This is you making a statement, trying to look like you're contributing. Tell me, did you get your quesiton answered?


Show nested quote +

In addition, this is not how you discuss another posters post. Just saying "I don't agree" is not the least bit helpful to the town.

You actually came closer in your sentiments to "I don't agree" than I did. I addressed one of his things and showed why I don't agree with it as if I were scum.


+ Show Spoiler +
On April 22 2012 01:20 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I'm starting to think all of you people purposely post when I sleep

Let's do it like this - everyone just do whatever the fuck they want as long as it's beneficial in some way to town. If it's not beneficial in some way to town, then lynch them. If there's one thing I know, it's that voting/lynching/etc. plans always benefit mafia because they can pull them to their advantage (and also you get lynched when your plan especially sucks).

Keeping in mind with this train of thought, I will proceed to do whatever the fuck I want as long as it's beneficial in some way to town. When I get back, I'll read filters and try and put more on the table.


"Hey guys, let's not work together at all!" Towns have to work together. Instead, he's encouraging anarchy, and giving himself a pass to do it.

Yes. I have a vote, and thus I must decide how to use that vote well. I'd rather have anarchy than offering up precious resources (vigilantes) onto the sacrificial table to find who's godfather and who isn't. Invisible Hand Principle - when people act in their self-interest, as long as they're not stupid about it, it benefits others as well. Individual ambition benefits society, or in this case the town.


Just no. Towns work together or they lose.


Show nested quote +

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 22 2012 01:58 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2012 01:42 layabout wrote:
How are you feeling VE?

Any thoughts on marvellosity paqman or mattchew?


we need Risen to rise and get posting
we need ghost 403 to de-cloak
we need St.Daniel to grace us with his presence
we need Janaan to get out of bed
we need slOosh to stop fapping to Beethoven*
we need BroodkingEXE to execute som scum for us
we need Bill Murray to get his head in the game
we need Zephirrd to tell you guys to stop posting shit
we need layabout to stop with the puns lead us to victory



Shit, should've stayed AFK. I wanted a pun too


Worthless post, and it was posted 15 minutes after layabout's original post. I'm pretty sure Ver said something about lurkers posting exactly this way in his guide. Clearly, he's here. Clearly he's not doing anything.

Has it ever occurred to you I'm doing homework and I'm refreshing this infrequently to check out how the thread's going and/or defend my life like I'm doing right now?


At this point, Sentinel has had plenty of time to contribute something, anything, to this town, and he has not. I believe that this is not because he is busy, but because he's scum.

tl;dr - vote sentinel.


Then you are not familiar with Sentinel. He always plays like this.


"It's my meta" is not a good counter to "I think you're useless." Stop being useless and find me some scum.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
April 22 2012 16:28 GMT
#568
I think a BM lynch is a terrible idea (vig shout would be fine though). I don't think I've ever seen a case where a ninja vote was due to someone being scum. There's too much risk and no reward for scum in this situation. I think he's just insane.

I really don't like the fact that Sentinel immediately jumped on the lynch BM bandwagon. Trying to lynch insane players is scummy in my book. Same goes for you Mattchew. Why would scum even try to ninja vote? It makes way more sense to sheep instead. No one would have thought twice if BM had shown up in thread and said "lol VE scum ##vote VE".

VE's claim is bad. He's doing the same thing that he did in TLM LI in claiming when there's no reason to. I can't imagine scum VE doing the same thing twice, but now we're into WIFOM territory. In addition, JK is the only nonconfirmable role in the game. A vig shot shows up in the day post, and a tracker can confirm where someone went that night. It only makes sense that scum VE would claim JK.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
April 22 2012 16:44 GMT
#571
@mattchew: This is my first game playing with BM. I don't know his meta well enough to know if ninja voting is something scum BM would do or not, but I do know this: there's no reason for scum to ninja vote almost a full day before the deadline. If he had voted five minutes before the night post, I would hold him accountable for it. But, a full day? That's not scummy, that's insane. I lynch people for scummy play, not insane play.

@paqman: I'm still where I'm at last night: VE or Sentinel. Sentinel has only become more scummy in my book for jumping on the BM bandwagon like there's no tomorrow, and immediately voting against the person who called you out for lurking is a classic chainsaw defense. I still have no idea what VE is doing, and I don't see a good reason to buy his JK claim. It doesn't make sense to claim so far before the lynch.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
April 22 2012 16:52 GMT
#576
Wow, I could have sworn that I read that Sentinel voted BM. -_-

My bad. That knocks him into second place in my list of people I think are scummy. When I have more time, I'll look back into the Sentinel == scum thing. Working on a Linear Algebra problem at the moment. brb
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
April 22 2012 17:17 GMT
#586
@mattchew: But hes cahrazy, don't vote him.

Bill Murray is playing a game that's insane, but he's doing it over there and leaving the town alone. VE is playing a game that's insane, but he's doing it in such a way that the town cannot function efficiently. Disruptive insane play is far more lynch worthy than weird incomprehensible im-gonna-do-whatever-the-fuck-i-want play.

@paqman: If a vig shoots BM and he doesn't die, it makes sense that the vig would claim it in thread. A jail keeper would be forced to admit to jailing BM in thread, but I can't see that happening. If the vig claim is true, we lynch BM and he flips GF. If it's not, BM flips town, and the next day we lynch the counterclaiming scum. Win-win.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
April 22 2012 21:58 GMT
#652
VOET COUNT:

marvellosity - 2 Votes
BlazingJitsu
BroodKingEXE

VisceraEyes - 7 Votes
slOosh
marvellosity
Bill Murray
Ottoxlol
VisceraEyes
layabout
[uon]sentinel

Mattchew - 1 Vote
PaqMan

layabout - 1 Vote
Risen

[UoN]Sentinel - 1 Vote
ghost_403

ghost_403 - 0 Vote

Bill Murray - 2 Votes
Mattchew
St. Daniel

risen - 3 votes
gonzaw
paqman
janaan

johnnywup - 2 votes
midnightGladius
mementoss

zephridd - 1 votes
johnnywup

At least, according to my calculations.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
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