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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 07 2012 18:09 GMT
#44
/in
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 08 2012 23:23 GMT
#64
/confirm
please vig bluelightz
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 09 2012 21:09 GMT
#80
Lost mafia?
This is bad.
Whilst Lost:the video game is widely regarded as one of the greatest video games of all time i may have got stuck in cave and given up.
Oh well, maybe i can do better in this game.

"This game has no mafia team in it"
Discuss
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 09 2012 21:16 GMT
#86
On April 10 2012 06:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm scared! Someone hold me!

Put a bullet in Bluelightz and i will hold you
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 09 2012 21:22 GMT
#93
On April 10 2012 06:20 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 06:19 Sbrubbles wrote:
On April 10 2012 06:17 Drazerk wrote:
On April 10 2012 06:17 Sbrubbles wrote:
On April 10 2012 06:09 layabout wrote:
Lost mafia?
This is bad.
Whilst Lost:the video game is widely regarded as one of the greatest video games of all time i may have got stuck in cave and given up.
Oh well, maybe i can do better in this game.

"This game has no mafia team in it"
Discuss


I'll begin then: I thought we were playing mafia! Why would there be no mafia team?

Ok, your turn.


Its a bastard game. Your turn


It's bastard mafia, so the mafia are bastards. Next!


So it would be a bad time to claim Jon snow?

John snow from which book?
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-19 22:24:12
April 09 2012 21:29 GMT
#97
You probably do belong in purgatory....
+ Show Spoiler +
Since ________ some people get really butthurt over spoilers


Well since Drazerk checks out we might as well kill sbrubbles
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 09 2012 21:44 GMT
#108
I do not dislike Bluelightz

But you should shoot him because:
  • He hydra-ed with me in a previuos game but went afk, scumslipped (e.g. telling the DT to the the godfather) and then claimed scum in the thread thus getting us shot.
  • He did _________!!! in an ongoing game that could totally go either way.
  • I want him to improve and killing him will provide the necessary kick up the butt for him.
  • For the lols
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 09 2012 21:50 GMT
#112
VisceraEyes
Anybody disagree?
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 09 2012 22:04 GMT
#120
On April 10 2012 07:02 johnnywup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 07:00 Drazerk wrote:
With all our roles changing constantly there is nothing really to discuss which is kind of annoying as you could swap alignments at any moment meaning the best course of action is to probably to do nothing and wait it out >.<

only scum would condone lurking.

Deliberate inaction and lurking are two very different things
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 09 2012 22:11 GMT
#123
On April 10 2012 07:04 GreYMisT wrote:
Guys I got this. I Play:

[image loading]



Now, I know one of you has Swords of Revealing light out there. So you better claim now and play it.


+ Show Spoiler +
After Game of Thrones Mafia I feel the need to say THIS IS A JOKE POST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

##youactivatedmytrapcard
[image loading]
It's not exactly swords of revealing light....

I think we should lynch one of strongandbig or johnnywub
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 09 2012 22:33 GMT
#126
Well i can't argue with that case.

GG
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 09 2012 22:42 GMT
#130
Since when was putting spoilers inside of spoilers a crime+ Show Spoiler [No spoilers in here] +
+ Show Spoiler +
?

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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 09 2012 23:35 GMT
#134
On April 10 2012 08:28 Jackal58 wrote:
Role received.
Although I'm not sure if we started yet.
Should we be bastards and break the game?

Yes
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 10 2012 00:26 GMT
#145
i think it could be potentially very helpful,
A potential problem is that if there are too many people with wincondition 4 we may end up in a situation in which certain town players may try to kill other town players instead of killing mafia. If you find out that another player needs to kill you, how would you react? I hope the answer is that you would try to act in town's best interest's, because all it takes for mafia to gain the upper hand is for one player to act like a dick and cause 2 mislynches and chaos.

Fake-claims from scum could cause us some trouble but i am not sure how much.

My advice to players that have to kill other specific players to win is to hunt for scum as per usual and hope that scum kills them for you (or that they are scum and you can show it).
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 10 2012 11:49 GMT
#196
Set-up stuff:
Detective
Investigate one target each night, revealing the targets current wincondition, but not his original wincondition if it has changed.

Wouldn't the detective be a lot more useful if we all claimed are win-cons?

This game is called "Bastard Mafia", this has lead to a ton of speculation about how exactly the host plan to screw us over.

In my time here on TL mafia i have only ever had one (sort of) "bastard role". This was in Werewolve Invade TeamLiquid II
I was a spying townie with a rival.
You are a Stalker Forumer with a Rival (Spying Townie with a Rival); your rival is prplhz and you may only win if he is dead and the town has won.

Rivals: These players hate each other obsessively, and must do everything in their power to eliminate their rival. If a person's rival is alive at the end of the game, they lose, no matter which side wins, if their rival/s is killed, they will in turn win if alive at endgame, and their side wins. They will know the name of their rival/s from the start.

The problem in that game was that there were two mafia factions and town's chance of winning was fairly low.You also had to survive until endgame.

In addition to this you could lose if a specific player was still alive at endgame.
It would make very little to no sense if your rival was on another team because you would need them to die anyway so you would essentially be a VT. Because of this prplhz and i realised that the chances were extremely high that we were both town. We also realised that if we tried to kill each other we would substantially lower town's chances of winning (which would screw us both). So we agreed to play to town's wincon and just hope that the mafia would kill the other.

It's probably just called bastard mafia because lots of town players need to kill other town players to win and doing so would cause them to lose.

TLDR:
If you are town and you have to kill certain players chances are high that they are also town.
We should also all claim our wincons. There is a chance that we can work out some players that are likely town and we can make the DT much more powerful.

I need Bluelightz to stay alive
probably because of this:

On April 09 2012 08:23 layabout wrote:
/confirm
please vig bluelightz

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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 10 2012 20:00 GMT
#250
On April 10 2012 22:07 Sbrubbles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 20:49 layabout wrote:
Set-up stuff:
Detective
Investigate one target each night, revealing the targets current wincondition, but not his original wincondition if it has changed.

Wouldn't the detective be a lot more useful if we all claimed are win-cons?

This game is called "Bastard Mafia", this has lead to a ton of speculation about how exactly the host plan to screw us over.

In my time here on TL mafia i have only ever had one (sort of) "bastard role". This was in Werewolve Invade TeamLiquid II
I was a spying townie with a rival.
You are a Stalker Forumer with a Rival (Spying Townie with a Rival); your rival is prplhz and you may only win if he is dead and the town has won.

Rivals: These players hate each other obsessively, and must do everything in their power to eliminate their rival. If a person's rival is alive at the end of the game, they lose, no matter which side wins, if their rival/s is killed, they will in turn win if alive at endgame, and their side wins. They will know the name of their rival/s from the start.

The problem in that game was that there were two mafia factions and town's chance of winning was fairly low.You also had to survive until endgame.

In addition to this you could lose if a specific player was still alive at endgame.
It would make very little to no sense if your rival was on another team because you would need them to die anyway so you would essentially be a VT. Because of this prplhz and i realised that the chances were extremely high that we were both town. We also realised that if we tried to kill each other we would substantially lower town's chances of winning (which would screw us both). So we agreed to play to town's wincon and just hope that the mafia would kill the other.

It's probably just called bastard mafia because lots of town players need to kill other town players to win and doing so would cause them to lose.

TLDR:
If you are town and you have to kill certain players chances are high that they are also town.
We should also all claim our wincons. There is a chance that we can work out some players that are likely town and we can make the DT much more powerful.

I need Bluelightz to stay alive
probably because of this:

On April 09 2012 08:23 layabout wrote:
/confirm
please vig bluelightz



lol, in the werewolves game the "rivals" thing didn't come into play AT ALL! You were killed night 0!

I think massclaiming would be a bad idea at this point. Scum, townies with kill win conditions and survivors would lie and knowing townie protect win conditions would be useless. It would do nothing more than generate confusion.

We shouldn't focus our attention on finding out who has to do what. Eliminating a scum (and a potential KP) is what we should be doing. Speaking of which, you're lying about having to protect bluelightz. Why would you do that? Layabout, are you scum?

lol
I actually do have to keep Bluelightz alive.
I said that we should vig him in my confirmation post, this was before anybody had any roles.
I then recieved a PM telling me that i needed him to live.
My posting at the start was mostly off-topic garbage in a sea of off topic garbage. What makes me scummy?

Would revealing wincons really cause that much confusion?
I think that that information could be very helpful, it might even spark off some discussion or cause a surge in activity.

Why is VE being so quiet?
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 10 2012 20:08 GMT
#252
Where is the lie?
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 10 2012 20:37 GMT
#257
Macheji we are not supposed to talk about specifc role PM's times

But look at the date on your PM and notice how my confirm post was like a day before that.

As for saying that we should Blue after that, who cares?

VE what do you think about a mass claim?
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 10 2012 20:39 GMT
#259
If i lied please show me.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 10 2012 20:40 GMT
#261
sbrubbles voting a player for being "defensive" is terrible
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