BTW I want to make a couple of statements before we start in order for what I say to be irrelevant for your scumsearch later on.

I am going to play for fun, I don't care about learning the game or playing "badly". This doesn't imply I haven't read the rules, OP, guides, past games, player meta; or that I won't read the whole thread if it gets larger than 15 pages. Because I have and I will, and I'm counting on everyone to do likewise.

I am never going to insult you personally but I will most certainly tell you to your face if your posting style seems inefficient, total bullshit to me regardless of whether I think you're scum or not so I'm probably going to insult your role and style of play .. a lot, during this game. I can handle any sort of critique to my virtual online persona so I expect a little indifference from you too. I won't call your mom a whore or anything like that but even If I would, would you care? I'd be just another troll on the internets without any knowledge of your personal business, forget about it.

Once the game starts if you plan on condescending people by giving them newbie advice, and reciting principles on how to play and what they should look for, talk excessively about the concept of lurking and lynching lurkers and generally calling people noobish or crazy .. you are going to make this game less fun for me not to mention you'd just repeat what thousands have said before. Which means I'm going to have to compensate by writing crazy fluff, that you might not be interested in reading, just to mimic your lack of efficiency and usefulness to town. So if you're town don't do that. If you're scum, don't do it either because I'll quite possibly vote to lynch you for it in the absence of more concrete scumreads.

That's all I want to say .. my motivation, my self-imposed boundaries and what pisses me off the most. Oh and GL HF GG everyone

FourFace

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March 30 2012 14:18 GMT

#46

why would they do that lol

FourFace

701 Posts

March 30 2012 14:21 GMT

#48

Shiver me timbers

FourFace

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March 30 2012 14:31 GMT

#51

On March 30 2012 23:25 Radfield wrote:

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In this setup?

A: Withhold your kill, claim you took a hit, ride your confirmed town status to victory.

B: Withhold your kill, Jailkeeper is convinced he found the scum, force a mislynch, a roleclaim and a wasted day.

Both are interesting gambits, and there may be a couple other situational reasons as well.

The second one seems legit, i like it.
I don't understand the first one though.. how do you claim to have taken a hit .. nobody gets notified about medic saves or jailkeeper action so how can you claim to be sure you survived a hit

FourFace

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March 30 2012 14:51 GMT

#55

FourFace

701 Posts

March 30 2012 15:50 GMT

#57

Should've specified: "unasked-for" newbie advice. I really think it's annoying to hear stuff like "lurking is an extremely viable strategy for scum to use".. but it could be just me, and you do what you want.

I would like to try something out, yes. Have people compete in writing like they are having fun, just a regular group chat among TL-ers. Joke, make references to starcraft, memes, word play. My theory is that he who lacks the ability to convince the others that he's having fun will most likely be scum. Why? Because lurking is no fun.. and like you said, mafia don't have any problem with playing like that, town does. Mafia want the game to be boring and unreadable, town doesn't. Yes it's rather unconventional and not in the guides yet but let's do try it.

FourFace

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March 30 2012 16:29 GMT

#59

On March 31 2012 01:18 KharadBanar wrote:
So by all means, post away on Day 1, but let's get more into "real" game play after that.

I can agree to that.

FourFace

701 Posts

March 30 2012 16:35 GMT

#60

And I strongly support your efforts to change the rollover time, seeing there are predominantly European players for change (myself included)

FourFace

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March 30 2012 16:38 GMT

#61

Oh wait .. there are only 3 of us + the co-host.. nvm. But a soft compromise would be nice nevertheless

FourFace

701 Posts

March 30 2012 16:52 GMT

#63

How about + or - 4-5 hours on the deadline?

FourFace

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March 30 2012 17:42 GMT

#67

I don't feel the need to argue with you, but please .. stop calling ideas stupid. It is the only way to emotionally stir up someone you don't know on the internet. You are really offending me, needlessly. You can say that you want my family to die of cancer (Alfio style) and it wouldn't be as offending because both of us know that you have no reason to hate my family. But if you call my idea stupid .. I don't know your level of intelligence, your mental achievements, your sense of humor or your motivations in life and I can't have someone i don't respect calling my ideas stupid. So pretty please with sugar on top ..remember to refrain from doing that and politely disagree next time.

Odds are 7 to 2 that I'm going to be townie so I'm not trying to trick you into playing badly so Mafia wins. I just think I gave it a little more thought than you have.
I see some problems like the thread turning boring and people going inactive because they're like: aww shit I have to read thorough this pile of accusations, lurker philosophy, poor or non-existent argumentations and whatnot just so I can find out if 30 hours later the guy i voted for gets lynched or if the guy who gets lynched is scum or not.

Personaly I'd like some salt and pepper so my curiosity gets me reading and get a couple of laughs as a reward. The discussion you seek will most likely never emerge, i dare you to prove me wrong. My guess is there's gonna be faceless people with no personality blindly accusing and insulting eachother. You might as well go into politics for that.

FourFace

701 Posts

March 30 2012 19:19 GMT

#69

On March 31 2012 03:45 Kohbee wrote:
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Someone correct me if I am wrong but this is EXACTLY why we play mafia. =/= To read other players, to see if we can outsmart and outthink them to lead our team (town or scum) to victory.

* If accusations, lurker philosophy and arguments (alongside 30 hour waits) are not what you are looking for maybe you should consider not playing forum mafia.

* This is what it has become. Should you possess any speck of intuition you would realize that this is not what it set to be and how it was played and is played on higher levels. A lot of veterans even choose to play elsewhere because the rigid attitude that TL has come to identify with lately doesn't reflect the spirit of the game.

I'm not asking you to entertain me, but I'd be willing to entertain entertain you .. get lost in the lore and immerse in these roles even.. and I can't do that if someone keeps saying stuff about this being a newbie game and repeat and quote what other people say how you should play.

Suggesting I shouldn't play = rude, insulting. Saying you aren't stupid your ideas are = rude, insulting, condescending. I don't get why you do it, I honestly don't.

FourFace

701 Posts

March 30 2012 19:35 GMT

#73

How you cannot see that this is rude is beyond me. You are basically saying gtfo. Are you seriously implying that you think that it's a well-meant advice that I shouldn't play this game, just because I find some aspects of how it is played insufficiently satisfying? Dude..

FourFace

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March 31 2012 01:55 GMT

#85

Check out the shades on le gator. Looking good while nomnomnomnom

FourFace

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March 31 2012 06:47 GMT

#87

Notice how everyone except me and omnomMuffins has mentioned "Radfiled" in his post. Therefore we must be scum
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