EPTTotal newbie here, this should be interesting.
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BlueyD
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Total newbie here, this should be interesting. | ||
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BlueyD
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This said, it's been 3 hours since we've gotten our roles, and no one has spoken yet. I'd like to see everyone at least post to confirm activity. Whoever doesn't start posting is already suspicious at worst, and useless at best. We don't want any mafia hiding among the lurkers. I'll personally support lynching an inactive unless something pretty big happens. Good luck to all, and may the most able survive! | ||
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Seviro (one useless post, but he's there) Rise of Fenix (one useless post calling me a townie for posting first, I want his opinion on day 1 lynching) Ninja4Ever (he did say he would post later) No one is entirely inactive, but most people seem to agree to lynch a lurker day 1. This means we have to start thinking about who to lynch if there's no convenient lurker. On Gossemer's early vote for Mementoss: He was q | ||
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On Gossemer's early vote for Mementoss: He was quick to accuse someone in SNMMVIII as well, where he played town. I think it's just a townie move to get discussions going. | ||
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- Admits to not reading the rules and says some really confused stuff about voting as a result - Accuses michaelthe due to his eagerness to lynch an inactive, when many have argued we should do this - Tells michaelthe he would vote for him if there were an unlynch in the game - Doesn't actually put in a vote for michaelthe once he knows he can unvote later, says he has no reads instead - Uses really short posts frequently I don't know if the guy is awful scum or awful townie. All I know is he's awful. If he's town, he'll be absolutely useless to us, but if he's mafia, he'll quickly give himself out on the 2nd day, at this pace. I'm putting my chips on bad townie for the moment. To Rise Of Fenix: You better come up with some real information as to why you acted like you acted (see above points), or else I WILL put my vote in for your lynch. --- Ninja4Ever. and sc2system seem to be our 2 big time lurkers at the moment. They, together with Fenix, are part of my top 3 should lynch list. | ||
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##Vote: sc2system Reasoning incoming after dinner. | ||
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I'll point to just one thing: Between his vote for Rise Of Fenix and his vote for No Lynch (due, according to him, to Rise now contributing), Rise Of Fenix has ONLY ONE POST. And it says: On March 24 2012 05:36 Rise Of Fenix wrote: give me another chance, please. I will make up my terrible play today tommorow. That's a contribution?! That's even more useless than the rest! I don't know why he chose to vote no lynch at that moment, but his reason makes NO SENSE. Maybe it had to do with him being under attack and trying to make us think he was just a little peaceful guy? ... And then he votes for Virtu out of nowhere. Pure bandwagon jumping, and not one that was going anywhere either way. Virtu hasn't been scummish at all, and while he had a few hours of inactivity, when he posts it at least makes sense. I don't know if we'd get more info out of a Rise of Fenix lynch, but it doesn't matter to me when I'm getting huuuuuge scumvibes from sc2master. | ||
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##Unvote: sc2system ##Vote: Rise of Fenix | ||
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##Unvote: sc2system ##Vote: Rise of Fenix No "3 people get here within 10 minutes and keep Rise alive" for you! :-D | ||
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My rush to vote for sc2system with no immediate explanation was due to mementoss hurrying me up, saying people were leaving, which they were. At that point I was hoping to reverse the vote in order to lynch sc2system due to legitimate reasons, but didn't get there in time. I could've waited until aftermy dinner to post my vote at the same time as the whole explanation, but then I would've been there even later! On gaining information by lynching Rise: I was comparing the information we could get by lynching sc2system and Rise, assuming our lynch turned out to be scum. We really don't gain much info right now by lynching townies. That's not the only criterion used to determine who we lynch, though: Likelihood of being scum is a big thing, and imo sc2system beat Rise by far there. Rise's behavior is less suspicious since the excuse that he's not very bright at all works pretty well for everything he's done. sc2system's behavior, meanwhile, just looked chaotic for no reason. Do I have to even mention he voted for someone saying "ok if you say so" as the only explanation? My threats directed at Rise were meant to pressure him to post more to explain himself. You don't pressure someone by saying "oh, but I'm still split between you and the inactive", because that's just weak play. When I made them, I fully intended to put my vote for his lynch IF nothing else suspicious came up. I couldn't guess that sc2system would, during the few hours I wasn't there, start acting so erratically and make his case worse. Rise's case, meanwhile, didn't really move. My telling Rise to vote for sc2system can hardly be called manipulation. I do it right there in the open and I don't care if you guys see it! I think the guy has proven himself to be so bad that he needs another player to point out the one way he might be able to survive the vote. And indeed, he goes on to screw up the voting format and not be counted, further adding to the evidence for him just being awful... + Show Spoiler + Yeah, I did that too. Oops! First time playing, didn't think the bold was important. Corrected myself in time, though. You shouldn't really criticise me for posting fluff as my first post (no first post can really say much in these games) or 'correcting many typos' (which I didn't do, closest I came to this is continuing a post after submitting accidentally). Your case against me seems really weak, but if you have more specific questions, I'll answer them... | ||
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--- On Artanis and Seviro: I thought Artanis's case wasn't strong enough to consider a day 1 lynch, but I took notice of it. I'm not gonna clutter up the threat by repeating what he said, but Seviro hasn't shown a strong opinion all game that was really his. He seems to be able to appreciate other people's logic while never coming up with his own. I also didn't like that when he got voted on by Artanis, he just voted Artanis back. And I didn't like that he had a "pressure but no lynch" opinion on lurkers at first, but then switched his vote to Virtu for his period of inactivity, despite many ok Virtu posts before. "Flexible in opinion" is how I'd describe Seviro, and that's not a compliment... | ||
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On March 25 2012 06:43 Seviro wrote: This is what I meant by pressure but not necessarly lynch, I put my vote on him and then he came and posted his thought so I switched back. This is what I call pressure play. You said that we should "we should put pressure on lurker but not lynch them to fast". That's a direct quote. Well, the fastest we can lynch a lurker was the day 1 lynch, so that seemed to imply you were against lynching on day 1. Once that opinion of yours is in the open, the pressure value of your vote goes down a lot, so I don't get why you would say that. | ||
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Rise of Fenix wrote: well, you posting first probably eludes you being mafia and drawing unneeded attention to yourself. That is not to say that this could be a fake out, but I am inclined to believe you are town. Who else would like to speak up? Gossemerr wrote: [Unvote Mementoss, vote Rise of Fenix here] I don't understand his only post. He contradicts himself by saving that BlueyD was probably mafia, but thinks he is town in the next sentence? Suspicious to me. He said I probably wasn't mafia in both sentences, but you misread him. So I'm not sure why you bring up being the first to call for Rise of Fenix when your logic was bad and when it turns out he was green, no less. | ||
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1. Hi! I've never played mafia but I understand the game! Also we need a first post to get people talking! 2. Uh, guys, we've been talking about lynching lurkers day 1, but what if it turns out there's no lurkers to lynch? 3. Let's not act like we're starting anew and everyone's back to zero, guys, sc2system has still done crazy stuff we shouldn't forget. If saying "we" a bunch of times is all it takes to be a leader now... | ||
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On the froggynoddy hit: I don't know what to make of this. He was off my radar. He was neither the most scummy-looking, nor the most active or inactive, nor the most helpful. I can't read anything from this hit. On Artanis's vigi claim: I'll see whether anyone counterclaims then decide whether to believe you or not. Tomorrow is MLG finals, I'll be at a barcraft all day, should be back at night though. | ||
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