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On March 16 2012 23:41 Toadesstern wrote: well I'm pretty sure I'm going to wake up dead in a pink dress or something like that in wbg's daypost  I can be anything you want me to be! ANYTHING? Hmmmmmm... | ||
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On March 18 2012 08:17 Nemesis wrote: VE is acting rather retarded, but I don't know if that's normal for him. I'll have to take a look at his previous games first. Dude, last time I was in a game with him, he blew himself up to kill scum. What a hero. | ||
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On March 18 2012 08:26 johnnywup wrote: how nice of you to post, xsksc. anything else to say? Yeah. Why do you think Jackal is town, already? | ||
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On March 18 2012 09:31 johnnywup wrote: I'm town. If there's anything about me that makes me seem like scum, address it and i'll give my reasons on why I acted that way. I think a couple of your posts are a bit "off" if you look at them from a town perspective. On March 18 2012 07:41 johnnywup wrote: I don't buy it from VE, no reason to reveal faction at this stage in the game when no one is even accusing you. You may be trying to get our subconscious trust from the very beginning. But I don't know. You could be lying but you could be telling the truth. It's too early to say which is more likely. But I've got an eye on you. This first post, I just can't get my head around it. A townie doesn't keep his faction hidden, it's extremely important to establish your innocence and let people KNOW that you're a townie. Then you posted your early game reads and said you thought Jackal was town, then when you're questioned about it, you instantly became wishy-washy about it. Reading your posts, I'm getting the feeling that you're posting for the sake of posting something, rather than trying to push a town agenda. I'm not saying you're scum, yet, but I really don't like the way you are posting. On March 18 2012 07:41 johnnywup wrote: But I don't know. You could be lying but you could be telling the truth. It's too early to say which is more likely. But I've got an eye on you. On March 18 2012 08:32 johnnywup wrote: Of course, I could be overthinking things. But this isn't concrete evidence, and will probably change after different events. On March 18 2012 08:42 johnnywup wrote: but like i said this opinion is not concrete and is very likely to change. You seem very keen to let everyone know how on the fence you are. Why? | ||
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On March 18 2012 10:17 johnnywup wrote: Because I don't want people to think that I'm saying he's definitely town. If people think I *know* he's scum, then I'd be a top candidate for lynch... This is my first time playing and I'm not good at articulating what I'm thinking. I'm vanilla town, if that changes anyones opinion. Why would it change my opinnion? My problem is with your posting, not your role, lol. | ||
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On March 18 2012 10:21 VisceraEyes wrote: Okay, claim after one vote. That's not doing you any favors either. I think we got a winner here guys. Ready, set, VOTE! While I certainly dislike what I've seen of him so far, I hesitated to add a vote to my post on him, simply because I'm not sure if he's posting that way because he's a brand new townie, or if there is a scum motive to his posts. I don't think it's sensible to call for a bandwagon on him THIS early in the game, give it some time (we have practically the whole day left). If nothing much has changed when it comes to lynch time, sure, I'm totally up for lynching fuck out of him. No need to rush into things though, let's use all this time we've got! | ||
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That should say lynching the fuck out of him. extremely tired -_- | ||
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What "pre-emptive defense" are you talking about? In that quote I'm talking to VE after he called for votes on johnny, please read the thread properly. On March 18 2012 15:18 slOosh wrote: giving obvious advice about using our time without actually doing it himself I don't understand what you mean here. It sounds like you're suggesting that I'm not taking my time? Please clarify. Also, please state why you believe johnny is town, I'd be interested to know. | ||
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On March 19 2012 00:26 slOosh wrote: Yea I don't like this post - you are sidestepping and not addressing my suspicions. 1) The meat of my suspicions was not at all on your calling out, but your behavior after that. 2) I think it's pre-emptive because you are addressing a past stance in lieu of your present stance. 3) You take half a paragraph to assert that we have a lot of time and implicitly encourage thread stagnation as you do not offer any new discussion points or "push a town agenda" 4) You completely ignore my suspicions on your 'wishy-washy on the fence' nature point in my case. Add in some misrepresentation (painting me as someone stupid enough to try to convince someone that they are scum) and some more sidestepping (in the form of asking me for my stance without clarifying your own at all) and right now you are my #1 read. I have already posted why I think johnnywup is town - I'd be happy to explain further but won't be doing so until you give your own stance. 1) My only behaviour after calling him out was my reponse to VE, in which I say I'm going to wait and see how the rest of the day plays out. 2) What is it a pre-emptive defense of, exactly? You can rush into whatever you want, but I'm going to wait and see how he posts for the rest of the day. Is that a scum trait? I've already said I will vote for his lynch, if we don't find someone more likely to flip scum. My "stance" never changed. 3) We do have plenty of time, keep in mind this was just a few hours after the game had started, we only had a few people posting. In my post that contains the "meat of your suspicions", I tell VE to put the breaks on a bit. I go on to say why I won't be joining his vote crusade until I've seen more of johnnys posts. Now, for whatever reason, you see it that I'm scummy because of this and you think that Johnny is a scared townie. Why then, would I wait and keep an open mind? Why doesn't scum xsk just throw an extremely easy vote on an extremely easy bandwagon? Because I'm town bro. 4) I ignored them because they're baseless. I've never been wishy-washy. My opinnion does not just change when I'm called out about it, like johnnys did. I don't care if it's unpopular. I would believe that he is 100% scum just from his responses to pressure IF it wasn't his first game, it sucks that we have to account for that, but we do, new players can make giant errors of judgement. I'm going to wait and see how he posts in the second part of day before I make my mind up. That's not being wishy-washy, it's being sensible. As for the last part, I didn't mean to imply that you are stupid, I think your case is stupid however, especially now that I'm seeing where the meat of it originated. I did not sidestep anything, I have nothing to pre-emptively defend from, and my stance on the matter should already be pretty obvious. Now, I'd LOVE to know your reasons for being so sure that johnny is town, please. Because no, you haven't stated why, all you've said was this. On March 18 2012 15:18 slOosh wrote: I think johnnywup is town and he is responding like deer caught in headlights. Why do you believe he is a newbie town and not a newbie mafia by the way he reacted? Let's roll with your example, why is he a deer and not a wolf? Both can be caught in headlights. | ||
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On March 19 2012 04:51 johnnywup wrote: I don't think they're that dissimilar situations, really. But the thing is, when I was questioned about my opinions I felt attacked, wrongly or rightly, but I did. So I tried to back off, as I didn't feel that strongly about what I said, I was just trying to be helpful where I could. And of course, that led to a lot of red flags from people, so I tried to show that I didn't feel strongly about it which raised more red flags..so I didn't know what to do. I was put in a situation where any newb town would be struggling, and here I am. I don't know what to say at this point, because no matter what I say people are going to be accusing me of being scum when I am not. I honestly don't know who could be town or scum at this point, so I'm not very helpful there. So there, that's my thought process during this situation. I didn't know it would lead down this path, but it did, so here I am, trying to clear my head. So keep trying to lynch me, but it's a waste of lynch, you'll get a vanilla townie and you'll get no information from any of this. The problem is, a newbie scum who messed up would make the same exact defense here. | ||
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What are your thoughts on the game thus far? | ||
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Regardless of how you see things, I think it's quite clear I'm reserving final judgement on johnny, I've been over this already and it's getting a bit tiring having to repeat myself. I believe in my post on him I even said I wasn't accusing him of being scum, I said I didn't like his posts and they didn't make much sense if you look at them from a town perspective. I think that yes, there is a higher chance of him flipping scum than anyone else at this point, but things can change by the end of the day. | ||
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On March 19 2012 06:13 VisceraEyes wrote: Yeah, I'm kinda on the edge of my seat awaiting thoughts from several players. Come on guys, having 48 hours doesn't mean you have to take all 48 hours to read the thread. VE, what do you think of sloosh and his case on me? Does it look like a possible chainsaw defence to you? | ||
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On March 19 2012 06:37 VisceraEyes wrote: It's a case, and it's in no way a chainsaw defense. A chainsaw defense implies that he was attacking you because you're attacking johnnywup, when it's clear from his posts that he's attacking you because he finds your behavior suspicious. How do you think we should be spending our time xsk, if not voting for who we find suspicious? You made it clear that at this point in time that you're only really interested in voting for johnnywup to avoid a no-lynch, so is there anyone you'd like to lynch because you think they're scum? Nope not yet, looking forward to hearing from our inactives. | ||
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On March 19 2012 06:48 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm withholding my thoughts on the case until I see an adequate defense of it. I believe my defense has been more than adequate and I do not regret my "behaviour" at all. | ||
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On March 19 2012 07:32 sandroba wrote: I'm disappoint that you think jonny is mafia. Let's kill jackal gogogo any particular reason or do you just feel like it? | ||
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On March 19 2012 07:41 VisceraEyes wrote: Sandroba why are you confirmed town again? If one of them came up as scum in a dt check or whatever, it auto kills them both. I don't really see why they'd risk that if they're scum o.O | ||
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