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On March 14 2012 01:02 GreYMisT wrote: The game will most likely be starting around or soon after that time. Just try to make at least a few posts so we don't have to throw you into the Aperture Science Balrog containment cell. Right I guess I could post a one-liner on my phone :D | ||
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Will read thread tomorrow when i get back | ||
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I dont like how quickly Drazek shot VE, but it hit scum (or "3rd party") so w/e. I dont trust him though, especially considering his wincon changed. Care to claim your previous and current wincon than? I dont like MG's and Grackoni's VT claims, since this is a highly themed setup and its quite possible that VT doesnt exsist. Anyway, even if you really are a VT, why claim it? Serves no purpose for town and allows mafia to bluesnipe better. I need to take a closer look at the thread to see who I wish to elect, which I will do tomorrow. Honestly I dont really like most of the candidates for now. Another thing. I have never played with sleeper cells before, and they seem rather interesting to me. Considering that they cant communicate, does this mean that we cannot utilize link between members of the sleeper cell to nab them, or will they be given some sort of way to recognise each other? | ||
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Another thing. I have never played with sleeper cells before, and they seem rather interesting to me. Considering that they cant communicate, does this mean that we cannot utilize links between members of the sleeper cell to nab them, or will they be given some sort of way to recognise each other? typo | ||
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On March 17 2012 22:12 Drazerk wrote: I claim balrog I have to get 5 items to win the game and kill Gandalf When my win condition is met I leave the game. Old win condition was to just survive to the end with town only My attack is unblockable but I cannot discuss the limitations attached to it while my DT item can be used twice a cycle at day and night but it will only tell me if they are like me. There are three other people like me and I am certain that vel is one of them especially since he knew the name of my role ( I know the names of the other roles so I am presuming they do as well ) I also presume I am going to die anyhow so bring it on Gandalf I have a bomb ready and waiting. Why was your wincon suddenly changed? | ||
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Either way I dont think its a good idea to elect vel as wheatly since it seems like he is either third party or made a random guess and got Drazerk's role right, and I would much rather Wheatly go to someone more likely to be town. I dont know who this person is yet, need to reread. | ||
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On March 17 2012 22:47 Drazerk wrote: For references - Gandalf's role - + Show Spoiler + You are Gandalf the White, Town Jack of All Trades. ![[image loading]](http://images.wikia.com/lotr/images/6/60/Gandalf04.jpg) Active Ability [Oneshot]Wisest of the Istari: One time during the game during the night phase, you may divine the nature of your target, receiving a copy of their role PM. This ability will not be fooled by Millers or a Framer if there is one but will be fooled by a Godfather if there is one. [Oneshot]Shadowfax: One time during the game during the night phase, you may summon the legendary steed Shadowfax. With Shadowfax at your side none can hope to outrun you; you may track your target and learn who they visit. [Oneshot]Watcher: One time during the game during the night phase, you may watch over your target, receiving the names of all who visited your target (but not their actions). [Oneshot]Wisdom: One time during the game during the night phase, you may divine whether or not your target is capable of killing people. This will not reveal alignment to you, only whether or not they have KP. You win when Evil has been purged from Middle Earth. Old balrog's role - + Show Spoiler + I am the Balrog. I am a Survivor. I have a number of powers, but I'll start with my wincon: I win when any faction wins and Gandalf is dead. So, the second part of my wincon has been conveniently fulfilled. Gandalf probably wasn't supposed to die this early - I've got a few powers that would have aided me in my quest for Gandalf. I can investigate a player each night and discover if they are Maia. Gandalf, Saruman, Sauron, and Radagast are Maia (I am told these 4 names - more on this after my full claim). I have one unblockable nightkill. But that only helps me kill Gandalf. I still need to survive. Fortunately, I have a passive power: I know what happens when I get the ring. I become Bulletproof. For the record my DT item is called the Maia gun I don't become bulletproof when I get an item I can't discuss my power shot. Wait a sec just looked at LOTR... wasnt barlog a fakeclaim by a scum player? | ||
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I still believe the claim though (well at least I dont think drazerk is scum) since it makes no sense for scum to claim that his wincon changed in the middle of day 1 and stuff like that. The question now is, what are we going to do about it? Do we get rid of the 3rd party (I rather not), force him to let us control his shot, or let him do w/e the hell he wants? I would to use his shot as a 2nd "lynch" of sorts, but seeing as how he fired at VE so quickly I highly doubt hes gonna nicely cooperate with us... Maybe we threaten him with the lynch is he randomly fires again? | ||
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Also need to go, talk tomorrow. | ||
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On March 18 2012 07:46 Blazinghand wrote: So I was hoping someone else would catch this, but I don't like zelblade's post here: Taking a look at his filters from his previous games SNMMVII: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=311554&user=240873¤tpage=All Numerous minor typos, no EBWOPS used. NMMIV: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=314813&user=240873¤tpage=All Numerous minor typos, 2 EBWOPS used, but to add additional info to posts, never to correct errors with apostrophes and the like. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=314813&user=240873¤tpage=All In fact, changing "link" to "links" doesn't even alter the information presented in the post-- it's just a typo, the kind of which you regularly overlook. It adds no information to the post. Now wait a second, blzinghand, this all seems pretty inconsequential to me. Yeah, whatever, zelblade did an out-of-character EBWOP that looked pretty strange. But that's not scum behavior at all... like why would you even make a post like that, lol. noob. you sound like a bronze leaguer to me My god, why are you so BM? Stfu for a moment and listen to my explanation. Your question is legitimate, though, so I'll address it. We know there are other Sleeper agents in this game. It's possible that this unnecessary, out-of-character EBWOP was an attempt by zelblade to communicate his identity to the other cell agents. I was hoping someone else would notice this, but apparently nobody did, because nobody else is a paranoid motherfucker like I am. I'd like to hear your opinions though-- do I have a leg to stand on when I ##vote: Zelblade ? This accusation makes 0 sense. I havent played with sleeper cells before, but does the fact that they are present mean that I cant fix up a typo? I usually dont reread my posts for mistakes (which I usually make) but I happened to notice that I missed out an s on this one, and decided to fix it. Another thing, the reason why I seemed "afraid" and havent actually posted much crap besides regarding the drazerk thing is that I wasnt home yesterday and couldnt actually read the thread in detail, which is why I posted mostly on the things that were being discussed in the thread currently (i.e. drazerk's claim). Regarding the election, I think that either Blazinghand (although hes a paranoid motherfucker he seems town enough) or Velinath wouldnt be a bad choice. I have a stronger town read on BH at the moment, and as such prefer him into the position of Wheatly. ##elect: Blazinghand I still dont think that drazerk would be the optimal lynch for today. I believe his 3rd party claim, and whilst I am quite skeptical of the anger core thing, I dont really think its a good idea to risk lynching him as if its real, it seems rather likely that the players hit by it are most likely going to be town. He also might let us control his shot.... though im starting to doubt that. Seems to be an okay idea to vig him though, since he is quite the wildcard and it seems likely that he might not let us control his shot, and fire randomly instead. Dont really want to lynch him, but my vote will go onto him if we cannot reach a majority on anyone else, since I dont want a no-lynch today. Wouldnt mind getting rid of one of the numerous lurkers that we have today (Dirk hardpec etc..) Dont want to lynch bluelightz or sinani206. I dont feel scumvibes from either and bluelightz seems to be smiliar from a couple of games I read which he played in recently. | ||
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Quite a few players are lurking rather actively - Dirk, rayzor, cwave, kita etc. I do think that a decent portion of these lurkers are probably scum, and dont think that lynching into them would be a bad idea. Personally I had to choose one of these it would be cwave - his lack of posting doesnt help, and I really do not like his ninga vote. I have stated many times that I would rather not lynch drazerk due to various reasons I have already stated, though it does look like we will not be able to achieve a majority on anyone else today. I dont think hes a bad lynch to be honest - JJ makes a good point in that the chance of him flipping town = 0%, and whilst I dont think he would be a threat for now, he could very well be one later. I highly doubt we can find a better lynch today either way, besides the standard lurker lynch which honestly is more likely to hit town than anything else. As such, ##vote: Drazerk I might be around before the deadline to change my vote but dont count on it. When is the deadline? Is it 07:00HKT? | ||
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First off, I have no idea why the hell drazerk decided to lie about his win con and crap when he could have just claimed everything truthfully which might have given him a higher chance of survining the first day -.- Regarding Foolishness, I dont really know what to think of him at the moment. I highly doubt that its a posting restriction due to the mods giving him points for it, and honestly it seems pretty ridiculous to have a "post in riddles" post restriction. Considering the highly themed nature it definately is a possibility, though I doubt it for one. Which makes me think that Foolishness is either: 1) Scum/3rd trying to look like hes contributing 2) Town trying to avoid getting shot n1 by "trolling" and faking a post restriction to make himself seem less of a threat. Im unsure which he is as of now, although im leaning towards the 2nd option. Since it seems he has a reputation of being able to single handedly crush mafia teams within a couple of in game days, I feel that the best course of action is to leave him be for a while (day 3 or so) and see what he delivers to us. Next up. Regarding wheatly and the black market thing, I think we should leave it to velinath to decide what he wants to do with the role. We elected him, and that means wether we like it or not, we ought to trust him with the role, due to possible unknown mechanics that might interfere. What he should do though is claim whoever he gives any item to before night ends (dont forget the 1 hour no post thingy!) and what said item is, which would allow us to semi-confirm that part of his role at least. Gonzaw's claim regarding the destabaliztion engine is pretty darn interesting. From what you have stated, it seems to be a good idea to keep the level low for now. I dont really know anything about portal lore if it applies here, but it does seem that it going up might have some sort of negative effect on us. Also, does it state that it will be stated in the day/night posts if the destabalization rises? If not, it could be that it is a hidden mechanic.. which would prove quite troublesome. What I have no idea is why the hell you are claiming this, particularly now. From what it seems, quite a number actually are seeking this engine (great powers have similar wincons?). Besides, it doesnt seem to be information that we need to know at this point, which is why I feel all this honestly does is make you a giant targert. Oh not to mention that its night, where alot more kp is rampant. Even if you felt that a claim was neccessary, couldnt it have waited till day? I dont think you were that high a pirority targert to feel this unsafe. Sure you are one of the more active posters and such, but I highly doubt you were going to be shot, considering that there are both supposed godlike scumhunters (Foolishness etc.) and people that seem more likely to be town. Of course I could be wrong but I feel that claim was pretty bad, and I have no idea why you decided to post this piece of (not neccessary) information at this point. Bleh, seems like the most active time is generally when im in school and when im sleeping ._. Really wish I could shift time or something lol =/ I havent had the time to read the recent pages recently, so if I missed out anything major (question towards me etc.) please point it out, and I will address it tomorrow. Thanks. | ||
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Also its going to be difficult to "force" him to post something that doesnt rhyme since we cant really do that without taking drastic measures (talk or day vig!) I dont think thats a good idea though. Besides, his rhymes arent really clogging up anything as of yet besides the current (needeless imo) discussion that we are having now on it, and he still seems to be providing a fair amount of opinions despite posting in rhyme. I really feel that we should just leave him alone for now, and stop discussing this "posting restriction" of his. Its just distracting us at this point. Of course if he doesnt produce much quality in the coming days we can take another look. @sbrubbles I think he posted what was on sale a few pages ago and it was something like one-shot vig, one-shot DT and stuff like that. Im too lazy to find the post now but you could just look through veli's filter to find it. I dont think that it was too detailed though, wouldnt be bad to get more details on what this black market is selling. Another thing is that we shouldnt just assume that there are 5 portal guns. Fair assumption, yes. But it was based off a day post in a previous game and could easily have been put in to troll us and such. | ||
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I agree that the post restriction is bullshit, and also that draz had no anger core (probably a lie to scare us). Even if he did his ability would make it useless, making it a non-exsistent threat. If you think his portal gun claim was fake, what do you think of kenpachi supposedly giving it to him? He claimed that he did. Kenpachi seems to be a pretty crazy player though I dont think he was lying about this. You seem to believe that he lied? What motivation do you think he would have for that action? Blazinghand's dissapearance also worries me, considering how hard he tried to get the wheatly postion. Could be that hes feeling a little demotivated considering he missed it by one vote. I dont think im going to read too much into this now, unless he continues lurking of course. | ||
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