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Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
March 08 2012 03:21 GMT
#59
Ah, screw it.

/in
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Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
March 11 2012 05:07 GMT
#140
On March 11 2012 13:44 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 13:41 Jitsu wrote:
What about lying in PM's? In what situation would you use it? Can you logically and clearly explain you're reasoning to the rest of the town when the lie is brought out to the forums?

If yes - yes, I would be ok with that.
If no - no, don't lie.

Simple.

Again, calculated lies are something that could potentially have high risk/low reward. Remember that as well.

We can only choose 2 people so it's rather limited in scope as far as using PMs to set up anything.

I think we should all be transparent in who we decide we want to PM with. Dissent?


I am down with that. I don't feel that there's much of anything to gain from keeping secret who we are PMing, and making it public gives us more chances to catch mafia in lies and generally keep tabs on folks.
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Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
March 12 2012 06:57 GMT
#268
Right now I'm feeling the Jackal lynch more than anything else. He says that he plays differently every game, but I feel that enough of a case has been made to show that that's not at all true (see: Curu's post). His tentative posting so far this game does remind me of his posts in Hammer Mini Mafia, where he was also scum. He also listed me as one of the "good" players, which is so utterly wrong it's hilarious. (not a real reason for voting him, but seriously, I'm terribad)

I also don't think that Caller is scum, based purely on the fact that he's the first person to make a real case and get some actual discussion going. I feel scum would've been content to let the thread continue to wallow in LaL arguments and the PM debate, where no progress was being made.
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Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
March 13 2012 01:02 GMT
#443
On March 13 2012 09:57 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 09:43 Node wrote:
##Unvote Jackal58

Change of heart, Node?


I'm thinking it over. Didn't want it to become a majority while I was unsure. Bigger post coming.
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Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
March 13 2012 02:00 GMT
#446
I buy Jackal's roleclaim. I don't think it's too far-fetched to have a suicidal vigi in a normal game, and it supports the statement in the day 1 post that this game is themed around "choices". (that is to say, the choices we make have especially harsh consequences. like death.) It's also a role that makes sense in the context of a game where it's possible for the mafia to hide the alignment flip. More importantly, it's an easily verifiable claim -- were I mafia, it's a claim I sure as hell wouldn't make. You can say that's just WIFOM, but the point stands that it's hella easy for us to see whether or not Jackal is being truthful.
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Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
March 13 2012 02:06 GMT
#449
On March 13 2012 11:04 Curu wrote:
We're well on our way to a no lynch with 1 hour left in the day. Solid.


Actually are there one or two hours left? The day post contradicts what the Voting Thread is showing.
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Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
March 13 2012 02:36 GMT
#457
Oh well, it might just be an empty gesture at this point, but I'm going to vote Sheth for not explaining his vote on BM and excessive lurking, especially after claiming he would be posting more today. Others are welcome to join me.
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