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Spoiler: discussion might contain recent tournament results!
Hi TL,
I wanted to start a discussion about who are the hottest candidates for the code S seeds in the next GSL season.
A discussion about possible benefits and drawbacks, as well as alternatives of the said seeding system should go here: link
(note that the thread is misinformed though, because Koreans are also eligible for the seeds, see below.)
Who is eligible for the code S seeds and on what criteria are they handed out?
We have introduced our new format for the 2012 GSL Tour a while ago, which includes changes to the way international seeds are being given out. [...] In 2012 the GSL will have 2 Code S sponsor seeds. These seeds will be determined by outstanding results in international tournaments.
Source: GOMTV
For your reminder, here are all the premier tournament (as of Liquipedia) that happened recently or are happening right now:
MLG Winter Arena, Assembly Winter, IEM Sao Paolo, IEM Kiev, HomeStory Cup
So who do you think is the hottest candidate for a code S seed and why?
Personally, I'm torn between either the two top non-code S finishers from MLG Winter Arena, or the top non-code S finisher from MLG Winter and the top non-code S finisher from Assembly.
If the two non-code S players in MLG Winter manage to finish top 3, I'd say give them the seeds. Otherwise, I'd also be okay to give one to Polt who, even if the player pool of Assembly wasn't nearly as stacked as MLG, is the reining champion of Assembly.
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Seed 1: Polt for obvious reasons.
Seed 2: MLG Winner if he hasn't a Seed already else Violet for winning IEM
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Polt and Violet would be pretty good choices imo, but I doubt GOM will do two Koreans. Probably Violet (Winner of IEM Sao Paolo, potentially Arena) and either HuK or Nani (Both doing well in Arena).
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As a whole Assembly wasn't as stacked as MLG Arena but Polt's run was harder than most people's run in MLG arena. Taking down TaeJa, HerO, Lucky, Stephano. Or rather destroying them.
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To pull in some foreigner money I guess that Stephano for instance (2nd in ROG and lots of good performances) could be a candidate
And fan favorites like Ret (did well in WB in MLG, vs MVP and other great players)..
I think giving HuK a seed would be a bit anticlimax as he has just lost his.
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On February 26 2012 20:29 Grovbolle wrote:
To pull in some foreigner money I guess that Stephano for instance (2nd in ROG and lots of good performances) could be a candidate
And fan favorites like Ret (did well in WB in MLG, vs MVP and other great players)..
I think giving HuK a seed would be a bit anticlimax as he has just lost his.
As far as I know, Stephano isn't willing to return to korea.
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polt his run to win Assembly was so hard
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SEEDS ARE NOT JUST FOR FOREIGNERS
HuK and Polt just lost Code A status and I doubt they would IMMEDIATELY seed them back in, maybe next season if he fails to requalify, Stephano and viOLet don't want it and NaNiwa is just plain unlikely...
IMO they should give seeds to EGPuMa and maaaaybe LiquidRet or Empire.Kas if they're willing but honestly there's no one worthy of a seed right now.
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polt, violet or huk at this pointOn February 26 2012 20:32 RPR_Tempest wrote:
SEEDS ARE NOT JUST FOR FOREIGNERS
HuK just lost Code S status and I doubt they would IMMEDIATELY seed him back in, maybe next season if he fails to requalify, Stephano and viOLet don't want it and NaNiwa is just plain unlikely...
It can't be someone already in GSL. Seeds are to bring in new players. Polt is in Code A already and thus won't get one until a couple seasons after he drops out of Code A.
IMO they should give seeds to EGPuMa and maaaaybe LiquidRet if he's willing to return but honestly there's no one worthy of a seed right now.
DRG was code A when he got his code s seed and polit is in code B
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On February 26 2012 20:27 Yaki wrote:
As a whole Assembly wasn't as stacked as MLG Arena but Polt's run was harder than most people's run in MLG arena. Taking down TaeJa, HerO, Lucky, Stephano. Or rather destroying them.
Hm, that's actually quite a good point. You shouldn't only decide by player pool, but by the individual run.
Or is it not? I mean, if a player pool is stacked, you might still be able to have an on-the-first-glance easy run.
However in fact you might have beaten the terran that beat NesTea and the zerg that beat MVP, etc...
Shouldn't that be acknowledged as well?
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On February 26 2012 20:32 RPR_Tempest wrote:
SEEDS ARE NOT JUST FOR FOREIGNERS
HuK just lost Code S status and I doubt they would IMMEDIATELY seed him back in, maybe next season if he fails to requalify, Stephano and viOLet don't want it and NaNiwa is just plain unlikely...
It can't be someone already in GSL. Seeds are to bring in new players. Polt is in Code A already and thus won't get one until a couple seasons after he drops out of Code A. It wouldn't make sense if he failed to make it to Code S through U/D matches and was seeded anyway. That's the problem with giving seeds to people already in GSL.
IMO they should give seeds to EGPuMa and maaaaybe LiquidRet if he's willing to return but honestly there's no one worthy of a seed right now.
Polt dropped out of Code B man. And Puma ??? There are people that deserve the seed much more than him lately, he's been disappointing.
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On February 26 2012 20:36 Yaki wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 20:32 RPR_Tempest wrote:
SEEDS ARE NOT JUST FOR FOREIGNERS
HuK just lost Code S status and I doubt they would IMMEDIATELY seed him back in, maybe next season if he fails to requalify, Stephano and viOLet don't want it and NaNiwa is just plain unlikely...
It can't be someone already in GSL. Seeds are to bring in new players. Polt is in Code A already and thus won't get one until a couple seasons after he drops out of Code A. It wouldn't make sense if he failed to make it to Code S through U/D matches and was seeded anyway. That's the problem with giving seeds to people already in GSL.
IMO they should give seeds to EGPuMa and maaaaybe LiquidRet if he's willing to return but honestly there's no one worthy of a seed right now. Polt dropped out of Code A man. And Puma ??? There are people that deserve the seed much more than him lately, he's been disappointing.
Fixed.
PuMa never got anything in GSL from his NASL 2 win. If they're willing to give DeMusliM a Code A/Up and Down seed from MLG results mid last year I don't see why they wouldn't reward PuMa for winning NASL 1 and 2...he didn't get a Blizz Cup invite from it.
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MC was given his seed right after he fell out of Code A, so I see the seeds this time going to HuK and Polt.
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On February 26 2012 20:32 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Polt is in Code A already and thus won't get one until a couple seasons after he drops out of Code A.
No Polt got knocked out by Creator.
If they are doing the seeds on pure tournament wins and lack of Code status currently then Polt and the Winter Arena winner.
In they are giving it to good foreigners who are /prepared/ to be in the GSL, Naniwa for going through Nestea and Leenock.
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On February 26 2012 20:37 opterown wrote:
MC was given his seed right after he fell out of Code A, so I see the seeds this time going to HuK and Polt.
Because he WON it fair and square. Different format now so I dunno. I don't think it matters. Polt/HuK would be best if HuK wins MLG.
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I think ViOLet and Polt are the two biggest candidates right now, especially if ViOLet wins Winter Arena somehow.
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Polt definitely deserves a seed.
His run through assembly was tougher than most possible pools of Code A. I hope the GOM staff realizes this.
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On February 26 2012 20:40 VirgilSC2 wrote:
I think ViOLet and Polt are the two biggest candidates right now, especially if ViOLet wins Winter Arena somehow.
I'm pretty sure viOLet wouldn't accept it. He's deliberately moved away from Korea.
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On February 26 2012 20:37 RPR_Tempest wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 20:36 Yaki wrote:On February 26 2012 20:32 RPR_Tempest wrote:
SEEDS ARE NOT JUST FOR FOREIGNERS
HuK just lost Code S status and I doubt they would IMMEDIATELY seed him back in, maybe next season if he fails to requalify, Stephano and viOLet don't want it and NaNiwa is just plain unlikely...
It can't be someone already in GSL. Seeds are to bring in new players. Polt is in Code A already and thus won't get one until a couple seasons after he drops out of Code A. It wouldn't make sense if he failed to make it to Code S through U/D matches and was seeded anyway. That's the problem with giving seeds to people already in GSL.
IMO they should give seeds to EGPuMa and maaaaybe LiquidRet if he's willing to return but honestly there's no one worthy of a seed right now. Polt dropped out of Code A man. And Puma ??? There are people that deserve the seed much more than him lately, he's been disappointing. Fixed. PuMa never got anything in GSL from his NASL 2 win. If they're willing to give DeMusliM a Code A/Up and Down seed from MLG results mid last year I don't see why they wouldn't reward PuMa for winning NASL 1 and 2...he didn't get a Blizz Cup invite from it.
A seed in the up/down and a seed in code s is very different .... Also they never said that they would give the winner of NASL 2 a spot in blizzcup
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On February 26 2012 20:40 VirgilSC2 wrote:
I think ViOLet and Polt are the two biggest candidates right now, especially if ViOLet wins Winter Arena somehow.
I agree with this also. The best foreigner we have are like HuK, Naniwa and Stephano. But like many others say Stephano don't want to go to Korea, and I don't think HuK or Naniwa should be given one really. Especially not HuK since he was just given one last GSL and lost it.
I hope Polt and someone else gets it, preferably Violet.
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