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Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-25 13:48:01
February 25 2012 10:49 GMT
#12
urg RL
/out
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
February 28 2012 22:35 GMT
#80
/in

I like random.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
February 29 2012 06:35 GMT
#85
I've got a bad feeling about this.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 01 2012 00:21 GMT
#101
On March 01 2012 08:03 Probulous wrote:
Heads up people, the deadline is at 2pm Aus (syd) time. That means the lynch vote is at 2pm Sat for me. My best friend from Uni is getting married that day, so I won't be here at the vote deadline. I was hoping we would start yesterday but alas it was not to be. My vote will therefore be made earlier in the day. I will be active as I usually am at other times.

I am also trying to avoid my usual text walls. So far I have been failing but hopefully this game I get it right.


I have a wedding on Saturday as well. So looks like we need to get our first lynch sorted out quicksmart.

Scum, please do something dumb within the first 12 hours of game start. Thanks.

Otherwise, I can always update from my phone.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 01 2012 03:22 GMT
#112
I can only take you at your word that you're town, Prob, but if you really are, we're either both getting a win or both getting a loss this game.

Even after the Arkham city debacle, I still hate policy lynches. Ill stick to analysis for my method of finding scum.

Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 01 2012 03:29 GMT
#116
3:30am in Iceland and Ireland right now, probably a bit hopeful that Palmar and deconduo are on. The other two may be around, depending on which US states they're in.

Welcome back Misder, second wiggles game for both of us. If you're town again, do you plan on playing out the whole game this time?
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 01 2012 03:46 GMT
#122
On March 01 2012 12:40 Bluelightz wrote:
Keep on posting people!

I do agree with you Prob that we shouldnt use policies and...... but I think vigs we may have should fire on better targets then lurkers if possible, what do you think?




Well, of course a vig is going to shoot an obvscum if one happens to wander into the thread, I think that doesn't need to be stated.


The only person in this game that I know zero about would be Snarfs, everyone else ive read/played at least one game of/with. I don't think you are a smurf, since your account is over a year old, but whats your story? Are you new to TL mafia? or new to forum mafia in general? Is this your first game?
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 01 2012 07:47 GMT
#151
On March 01 2012 16:28 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 13:02 sandroba wrote:
I'm kinda bore with Lynch all Liars/Lurkers talk. This game we shall try something new: Lynch whoever I tell you to lynch and win. It works wonders.


Your chances of surviving another night are now halved,sir.


Why is this?

Granted hes trolling, but I don't see why this statement would make anyone any more or less likely to kill him.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 01 2012 11:29 GMT
#156
OK, how are we meant to do whatever you tell us to do if you meant after your death?

Do you plan on communicating from beyond the grave?
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 01 2012 11:34 GMT
#158
I know you're just going to reiterate what you already said 'please reread what i said and consider that i may have been right'

But doesn't that just go without saying? Isn't that what everyone does when a townie flips? consider that they may have been right
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 01 2012 11:54 GMT
#161
Whaddup, Hydralisk icon.

Killer Cup, what exactly are you voting for Probulous for?

From what I gather from your post, its because he was discussing policy. If that's the case, why not vote for myself, or Misder, or bluelightz? we were all discussing policy. Why single out Probulous specifically? You then go on to say you're willing to talk about another policy.

Please, be clear with your reasons. As it stands I find your vote contradictory and bandwagony.



Plus, you messed up the voting format and Probulous name.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 02 2012 03:58 GMT
#244
Prob, my activity will come in bursts most of the game. I have uni back on now and also I don't like posting just for the sake of it, only when I feel I have something relevant to contribute.


I find Palmar interesting, as I do in every one of our games. I think his exchange with you from yesterday was an exercise in stating the obvious, something I don't expect from him. As I said to him yesterday, everything he was stating was stuff that townies should already be doing and the fact that he needed to stress it across 4 posts shows that he is either just talking for the sake of putting words on a page, or he has no faith in this town. Right now, I am leaning towards he is not town.


I find Pandains 'analysis' of Killer Cup interesting also. Pandain warns about making assumptions about your accusers here. Then he goes on to make the assumption that Killer Cup is so scummy that he cant be scum here.
I made that assumption in Arkham City with jaybrundage, that he looked so damn scummy that he had to be bad town. Nope, wrong. He was just obvscum. I don't agree with Pandains logic, but that doesn't make him scum, so I have him as null for now.


Misder, if you have all those reads on everyone, why not write a paragraph on each one and detail how you got to those reads. Writing everyone's name and then an alignment is pointless and we all love pointless lists around here. Your OMGUS vote on deconduo is weak. You're voting him because he has different reads to you? You need to start putting effort into your reads.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 02 2012 23:27 GMT
#289
On March 02 2012 18:52 Palmar wrote:
Paperscraps looks towny, so does rgTS. I'm not really sure about teacup, but there's nothing super scummy in his posting so far.

I refuse to analyse jackal58, cause I never get it right. misder seems towny i think. Adam not so much, he could be scummer. I'm not quite sure about probulous, something is off about his play I think, but I can't exactly tell if it's because he's scum. Bluelightz is impossible to read, but assuming the obvious he's town.

I actually think snarfs looks pretty towny from his sk asking post, it just seemed genuine enough not to be fabricated to make us think he's clueless town, in addition I don't think scum often does that.

No clue about the rest really. Toast and Pandain and anyone else I might be forgetting, but if I forget you it's because your content has been worthless so far. So take it as an insult please.



These reads are only a fraction better then the list Misder posted, useless and effortless. You label me as scum yet you never follow it up. Why aren't you pressing me to try and find out my alignment if you think I could be 'scummer'. I think its because you have zero interest in finding scum.

Look at his town play: Hammer Mini Mafia

He is aggressive, he presses his reads. He doesn't give a shit what the rest of the town is doing. Contrast that with what we've seen so far this game.

##Vote Palmar



On March 03 2012 06:04 Probulous wrote:
Right now my reads correlate best with Palmar. I don't think Paperscraps is scum. He always writes very short posts with not much content, he correctly identified me as town early and I agree that decon's case was terrible. Sure Misder had engaged in a fluffy discussion regarding LAL (with me) but if that is all the case was based on then bluelightz should have been a bigger target. He was asking everyone for their opinions and sharing none. I agree that his absence since then and his terrible reason for voting decon (as far as I can tell) makes look really scummy but when Paperscraps replied the case was very weak.

Jackal is making himself hard to read. As above I disagree with paper but agree with Misder. He's lurking but that seems to be his usual day 1 play. Pandain seems towny to me. His case on toast helped clarify toast's alignment to me. Adam needs to post something of substance. His only game as scum (that I remember) he lurked all game long.

Sandroba, you're not helping yourself. The quote from Jackal in L corresponds very well to your current play. This is why I want Jackal's opinion. He shot you then, would he shoot you now? Toast is right to call you out for lack of contribution. Your response enforces his case.

##vote Sandroba


Probulous, why are you sheeping Palmar? His case on sandroba is weak. "You couldn't spot a townie??? oh, you're scum!".

You are remembering my game as scum incorrectly, I stayed as active as everyone else and directed the town into stupid mislynches. I spent the whole game jumping on the easiest bandwagons that came along.
I made it clear pre-game that I would be inactive for a majority of the first day. I don't find inactivity as a scum-tell, hence why I have not voted Misder.

Also, in TL50, Jackal did not shoot sandroba, he shot L. sandroba was lynched by the town.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 03 2012 00:57 GMT
#296
On March 03 2012 08:42 Palmar wrote:
Cause I want to lynch sandroba you dumbass. Don't be thick.

The case on sandroba isn't weak at all. It's based on the simple fact that his reads are off, he's disagreeing with me for the incorrect reasons and not putting any time into the game at all. I'll list it up:

1. Sandroba refused to try and point out a random townie in the thread because "he doesn't want to give away townreads". Now I know this is a common misconception, but sandroba is not dumb enough to fall for it like all the newbies. Giving away town reads is fine because if you force mafia to do it, they have to either call their scum mates town, or double back later in the game.

2. Sandroba's reasons for voting people in this game seem to not be the ones I'd expect him to use. he has basically attacked two people who in my opinion had at the time done very little that reveals much about their alignment in the thread.

3. Sandroba has put almost no effort into figuring out my alignment this game. While as town it would be a very obvious thing to do for him to put in a lot of effort into seeing if I'm scum, both because my scum play tends to be quite obvious and also because he knows that as a team we could probably smash the game.

I conclude, he must be scum.


I am not being thick, I am following my read.

Your entire case boils down to 'meta' of Sandroba. I've underlined everything 'meta' in your case on him that you just expanded on.

I find pure meta cases weak and so do you.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 03 2012 01:25 GMT
#308
Palmar, I see nothing in sandroba's filter that is jumping out at me as him being an obvious scum, if you take away the sandroba name.

Hes posted very little, but the same can be said for several other players, myself included.

Who is your next best scum read?
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 03 2012 01:36 GMT
#312
Then build your case. You have more experience with my town play then anyone else in this game, so if you think this isn't it, do something about it.

I can tell you that you're wrong, since I'm town, but I have nothing to hide.

Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 03 2012 06:36 GMT
#321
On March 03 2012 13:46 Jackal58 wrote:
You have got to be shitting me. 3 votes? Really? 3 fucking votes? And nobody has posted since the fucking flip?
You have got to be fucking shitting me.


Oh, give me a break.

If you are are so unimpressed with the current state of the game, why don't you try contributing something instead of lurking and trolling.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 04 2012 00:05 GMT
#345
On March 04 2012 07:49 Probulous wrote:

Adam
You were at a wedding yesterday so I expected you to be absent like myself (I tried to be around). But you posted at 1:30 before deadline when most votes had already been placed. So you had the information available to make a choice for a candidate who had the possibility of being lynched. You voted for Palmar when it was clear he was not a possible candidate. I can't find Paperscraps' vote so right now you effectively voted on your own. Nice way to avoid taking responsibility for a lynch. Explain.

These four had votes for people who clearly had little to no chance of being lynched. Now doubt you are all scum but I am sure that at least one of you is. What easier way to avoid taking responsibility for your vote then by placing it on someone who will not be lynched. I've done that as scum successfully in the past.


I didn't support either of the 'main' lynches yesterday and considering the votes ended up being split 3-3 in favour of your two main candidates, neither did most other people.
I was not avoiding responsibility by not voting for Misder, go read my filter, I didn't think he was scum. Lazy, yes. scum, no. I also didn't vote for sandroba on similar reasons, I think he is being lazy or just plain doesn't give a shit, which is not indicative of his alignment to me.
So I was presented with the 'choice' of voting for two people, neither of which I find overly scummy. So I decided to provoke Palmar, partly because I feel his play is different to what I expect from town Palmar, partly to gain a better read on him in case I am wrong and he is town.
The result is I still don't know what his alignment is. I asked him to produce more content (in the form of a case on me), but he refused as he was hell-bent on only focusing on sandroba yesterday, so I don't know what to make of him.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 04 2012 03:28 GMT
#350
Cant say i'm surprised with that.

Id like to hear something worthwhile out of sandroba or jackal today, skating by doing nothing is a lame effort from vets.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 04 2012 05:15 GMT
#352
On March 04 2012 13:29 Pandain wrote:
AKCT visited rhtheschworz last night.


Well well, isn't that interesting.

Since you've claimed blue already, can you tell me if you Tracked AKCT or if you Watched rgTheSchworz? I assume its the latter, but id like to know for sure.
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