Storm Mafia

I took the tornado from google and i did the starcraft pic myself

I hate calling people scum for no reason, since it can convince players that people are mafia despite the complete absence of evidence.

It is comparable to publicly announcing your town reads on day1, giving mafia additional reasons to shoot at players that you think are town or exploit your read(s) to manipulate you

I honestly cannot beleive that we are a good 20 hours into the game and you have not even found 3+ scum. These excuses are beyond weak, and are far from what i have come to expect from Dirkzor the townie.

perhaps not the best choice of words but ima just roll with it

Possible Implications of this:
VE might be an idiot. or
VE really didn't think that redFF looked scummy but was still willing to try to start a bandwagon, despite being eager to unvote him for an unbelievably weak reason.




Did you know that this was VE's first comment about dirkzor?


he was refrring to this:


at the time RoL's filter contained 2 posts "/in" and "HELLO EVERYONE!"

That was what it took to remove redFF from VE's lynch list. Simply pointing out that another player had not been posting. That action is alignment neutral and is it is absurd that that could be enough to convince VE that a player he spent a lot of time calling "anti-town" and "scum" and analysing would not be worth lynching



He is discrediting his own reads (it's almost as if he does not want us to listen to him but that he wishes to sheep instead). And he pleads for lynch lists from everyone so that we can "make something happen". Typical town play does not involve everyone posting their reads so that players can agree. It involves players making private reads and trying to convince others with evidence, arguments and analysis. If each player were to present a list of players that they were willing to lynch, surely that would help the mafia orchestrate or support a townie lynch, and it would not increase the chances of lynching scum. It could however benefit mafia.

He gets involves in some squabling and come back with this shortly after redFF claim:

but he doesn't vote for another 100 or so minutes, during which time he claims to have misread a post he "unvotes" and then attacks redFF for throwing a tantrum and votes for him.


He adds some reasons for him finding redFF scum and says that he cannot comfortably lynch anybody else.
This implies that something very significant will have to happen in order for VE to change his vote.

*this quote may or may not have been edited to demonstrate that VE had no intention of trying to lynch redFF.

"Prphz please make an effort to call somebody scum so that i can sheep you.Oh and did i mention that my reads are bad and that nobody should listen to me?"
He also says that his main issue with BC was relative inactivity but as we all know activity=/=alignment. VE is again searching for a weak reasons to justify his actions.


so without adding anything he changes his vote.


He tries to reinforce the idea that one of WBG and chaoser could be scum and mis-represents WBG's posting (he had not been tunneling chaoser), and then criticises him for calling red scum. VE has voted for redFF twice today and repeatedly called him scum. This re-read smell of... Bullshit.



He is keen to point out that he is just echoing the complaints of other players when he calls WBG scum.
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He also defends the action of sheeping which is convenient since it seems to be his main goal in the thread. It is not a pro-town goal. Sheeping is something scum can do to avoid contributing, and avoid responsibility for their actions.

He hear belittles inactivity which was the only reason he gave at the time for voting, BC.


He drops RoL from his lynch list because of sheeping, inactivity and mudslinging.
Sheeping is the thing that VE has done all game and that he explicitly said is done by both town and mafia.
Inactivity is the thing that that VE just said was an awful reason to vote somebody.
Mudslinging is something that VE has done his fair share of. (i have not quoted it because it's all crap)


So he switching off of BC because he thinks that in this case that he is wrong, we are better off losing BH than BC. This is not a strong way to convince players to switch, but it is a scummy way to make people switch, because it plays on fears. In addition if you have any faith in your reads the skill of the player in question should not be enough to make you change your vote.There are additional flaws with this type of thinking that i shall not explore.


VE has consistently told us to pay little attention to his scum reads. He wanted to vote reFF after redFF last post in the thread. He now cites that his issue with lynching redFF is that his scum reads want him dead. Based on your VE's own words we should pay little heed to those, they also were not very well supported with reasons. If VE beleived his tracker claim why would that be a factor now when redFF had made his claim and VE had responded to it and then voted for him earlier?

maybe VE is worse... vote coming soon