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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 06 2012 22:29 GMT
#15
/in
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 12 2012 17:20 GMT
#102
/confirm glhf all.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 12 2012 17:38 GMT
#106
can I get some opinions on the rabid fanboy trait.
Personally I don't even think it should be used. Not sure I like the idea of one person making his opinion more important than the town majority.
At the very least if the leader chooses to switch the lynch target without making his intentions clear and discussing with the town he should be lynched the next day. don't ninja-switch the vote, it's scummy.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 13 2012 14:39 GMT
#186
I don't think Blazinghand is stupid enough to ask in the thread how to create secret channels on irc if he was intending on using it to communicate with scum.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 14 2012 00:57 GMT
#251
On February 14 2012 09:56 Probulous wrote:
Because to me someone sending a PM to a guy who is playing his first game asking for his role without sending similar PM's to more experienced players is scummy as hell. It looks like he is trying to buddy up and influence the newbie.

A townie would send PM's to everyone or ask in the thread. Scum don't want to arose the suspicion of senior players so newbs are easy targets. That is why it bothers me. Now I know the evidence is thin at best which is why I am trying to find some more, no-one else is coming forward though so I have to keep believing he only sent one to SpiritClown. Well, why SpiritClown then? The only justification I can see is that he is a newb.

I am sure I am missing something but this is all I got. Help?

He already admitted that he sent some to other new players in IRC.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 14 2012 01:26 GMT
#260
What I meant by that was that IN IRC, he said that he pmd other people.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 15 2012 03:21 GMT
#308
My biggest scum read is Bluelightz

On February 14 2012 09:11 Bluelightz wrote:
Dude, I was sleeping. Getting on irc.

Anyway I do n't have any scum reads but my town reads are

Palmar
Paperscraps
Layabout
Grackaroni


First off giving a list of townie reads is bad, but I wouldn't expect Bluelightz to play any differently than this.
The reads themselves are pretty random, he quickly takes back town read on me when he realizes that Palmar has called me scummy.
On February 15 2012 09:13 Bluelightz wrote:
I feel like I'm Instant delurking but :/

Anyway,

Townie List:
Palmar
Probulous
Mattchew
prplhz

Scummy:
Sinani - Not a lot of contributions

Next day Bluelightz comes in again with his new list of reads. Not a lot of contributions is pretty weak and easy to retract for a scum read. The main reason Nisani is seen as scummy is because he has been unwilling to provide opinions and shows little interest in the game. (he said that prplhz was obv scum in IRC, but he did not care to explain it.) This list is lacking Paperscraps, who was on there earlier, It's possible that he simply forgot him but I think that he took him off just because he got accused a bit.

[19:15] <@Palmar> Paperscraps is town
[19:15] <Bluelightz> I believe scraps is town as well
[19:15] <derpladee> lol Bluelightz why?
[19:16] <Bluelightz> @prp I talked with him in irc and he seemed townie


I'm really not sure if it was a coincidence that Paperscraps was not on BL's town list from the earlier night but he had no real reasoning to back up his town read. His town reads are random and I think he just wanted to agree with palmar.

Bluelightz has jumped onto 2 of the easiest lynches in the game (already supported by several players) and posts a lot about asking opinions about me without providing his own.

[19:11] <Bluelightz> I think grack & sinani are scum imo

[19:28] <Bluelightz> IF we do Double Lynch who would we lynch? I Could see grack & Sinani getting lynched


[19:29] <Bluelightz> froggy what do you think of grack?

[19:34] <Bluelightz> Palmar, here's a PM from grack to me it made me seem like he had no "friends" or was clueless | Are you mainly communicating through PM's?
[19:34] <Bluelightz> Looked like that was your plan from IRC chat.

[19:39] <Bluelightz> Wadda ya think of Grack?

The only thing he does add about me is a random PM from me that shows nothing about my allignment. the PM he quoted was just my way of "breaking the ice"(prplhz). Seriously, I don't see the connection between me reaching out to him ------> me making it seem like I had no friends ----------> somehow indicating I am scum?

As far as I can recall I've never seen Bluelightz attack one player, he tends to stick to lists seperated by town, scum or town/scum. The Impression he has given me is that he does not want to make his own analysis on me, even though he thinks I'm scum, and is looking to pressure somebody else into writing a case for him.



Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 15 2012 03:28 GMT
#310
On February 15 2012 12:28 Probulous wrote:
Thanks for posting Grack.

I would like to point out that you PM'd me asking my thoughts on Bluelightz. You also jumped into IRC asking about Bluelightz a little after Lanaia and I were discussing him. So this is a little like the pot/kettle/black thing. Reading again carefully.

I haven't PM'd you all game. Check again
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 15 2012 03:31 GMT
#311
On February 15 2012 12:28 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 12:28 Probulous wrote:
Thanks for posting Grack.

I would like to point out that you PM'd me asking my thoughts on Bluelightz. You also jumped into IRC asking about Bluelightz a little after Lanaia and I were discussing him. So this is a little like the pot/kettle/black thing. Reading again carefully.

I haven't PM'd you all game. Check again

In fact I checked the IRC logs too. the first thing I said when I finished reading the chat was my opinion of Bluelightz. I never asked your opinion on him in IRC either.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 15 2012 18:15 GMT
#336
Like Lanaia has mentioned earlier we need to start putting down our votes.

##Vote: Bluelightz

Mattchew is right that new scum often put a lot of emphasis on the fact that they are new and that their reads might not be good. Spiritclown would also be a good lynch if we are planning on tieing the vote.

I think paperscraps' needs a better reason for believing that Sentinel is scum, the conversation he posted is pretty obviously trollish and is a null tell.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 16 2012 12:17 GMT
#406
Let's go for the double lynch on spiritclown/Sinani.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 17 2012 04:07 GMT
#473
Funny coincidence that zeurg was the player replaced... Just from the fact that he would pop into IRC avoid talking and leave at the same time probulous started pming him. Really strange to sign up for a game in the first place and actively avoid talking, makes a little more sense from a scum perspective.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 18 2012 04:15 GMT
#504
Palmar is a good player.
If paperscraps was scum as you believe it would leave little doubt in my mind that palmar is also scum. He is a good enough town player to not call people you consider obv scum confirmed town.

I don't think I can write a case on my phone but nisani is scum and Needs to be lynched. I'm waking up early tomorrow anyways will write a case then. (my school shuts off my Internet at 11)
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 18 2012 04:29 GMT
#507
On February 18 2012 13:15 Nisani201 wrote:
Grackaroni, you fail to consider the possibility that Palmar is scum. Do you have information that I don't?

Of course not. There's 2 scum teams and the idea of me and palmar being scum together is extremely unlikely.
No way I could know if palmar is scum I just think his scum reads are pretty accurate and he seems less lazy compared to purgatory. Bluelightz could be scum don't understand his wrong in a townie way opinion.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 18 2012 04:57 GMT
#510
Hey lanai, how do you feel about Somali?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 18 2012 04:57 GMT
#511
Lol sinani
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 18 2012 05:04 GMT
#514
It's just odd. You seemed defensive about Nisani earlier and as soon as I call him out you call me scum based off your gut and because I called somebody scummy my best scum read.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 18 2012 05:12 GMT
#516
On February 18 2012 14:08 Lanaia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2012 14:04 Grackaroni wrote:
It's just odd. You seemed defensive about Nisani earlier and as soon as I call him out you call me scum based off your gut and because I called somebody scummy my best scum read.


It wasn't that. It was because of how you worded it.

Also I don't know if he's omgusing you, nisani. did he even see that you'd done it before he called you scum?

Huh? You said my wording was weird too but those were the reasons you gave. If you want to you can elaborate on the wording but it's a very weak case.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 18 2012 05:30 GMT
#519
You admit that this is a weak case and that your other reads are less prominent? From my perspective the best explanation for you posting a weak case on me was you trying to defend a team mate by attacking me. I don't know what your other motivation could be the timing is suspect.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 18 2012 18:50 GMT
#550
pretty dissapointed. Thought for sure nisani would flip scum.
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