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CosmosXAM
Profile Joined April 2011
United States121 Posts
January 24 2012 02:44 GMT
#26
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CosmosXAM
Profile Joined April 2011
United States121 Posts
January 24 2012 22:16 GMT
#67
Really excited for this, can't wait till 9 :D
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CosmosXAM
Profile Joined April 2011
United States121 Posts
January 25 2012 21:39 GMT
#132
I had yet to post because I was at school, sorry if inactivity would lead people to this conclusion. But in my opinion even pressuring someone like that will be cause of an emotional and defensive response making them see even more likely to be right to lynch. I am completely against random lynches on the first day because the odds are just too small, you wouldnt bet your life on a 1/3 chance would you? That is the same stance I am taking here even on the chance we do kill a mafia in my opinion it comes at too great of a risk and we dont need to kill a townie only to have more killed in the night, that just brings our numbers too low to fast.
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CosmosXAM
Profile Joined April 2011
United States121 Posts
January 25 2012 22:04 GMT
#135
On January 26 2012 06:53 zarepath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2012 06:39 CosmosXAM wrote:
I had yet to post because I was at school, sorry if inactivity would lead people to this conclusion. But in my opinion even pressuring someone like that will be cause of an emotional and defensive response making them see even more likely to be right to lynch. I am completely against random lynches on the first day because the odds are just too small, you wouldnt bet your life on a 1/3 chance would you? That is the same stance I am taking here even on the chance we do kill a mafia in my opinion it comes at too great of a risk and we dont need to kill a townie only to have more killed in the night, that just brings our numbers too low to fast.

Right, we've moved on past random lynching.

Who do you think is suspicious?


If I had to say I would probably go with fakepromise because of how he was so quick to agree.
Also Chocolate seems mildly suspicious because of his quick jump to voting straight for me based on little information, but I havent found enough conclusive evidence to make a post strongly against someone.
This is just my first game and I can only be active for a few hours in the day so hopefully people dont misconstrue that information.
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CosmosXAM
Profile Joined April 2011
United States121 Posts
January 26 2012 00:04 GMT
#140
On January 26 2012 08:27 SacredSystem wrote:
## vote: FakePromise

1: you gotta vote in the voting thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=306091
and 2: I find it a bit odd your jump from
On January 25 2012 14:55 SacredSystem wrote:
However, despite several conclusions that we all wish to draw, we need to wait, the mafia will all expose themselves at some point in time.

on a side note
Fakepromise agreed with him at 30% odds -_-

to straight up voting for him, I mean sure he now has two votes going for him but you said that you wanted to wait for more information and based on him only posting once and your points about him just being copy&paste what other people had said earlier and not offering any new information or opinions I find your vote to be very bandwagon-ey. I am not trying to say that you are mafia or to go as far as that but just pointing out that simply copying what others say and blindly agreeing is very suspicious.
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CosmosXAM
Profile Joined April 2011
United States121 Posts
January 26 2012 00:27 GMT
#142
On January 26 2012 09:22 gumshoe wrote:
Can I join this please? Please tell me it isn't too late to join!

Way to late to join, please read the whole thread before doing something like this.
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CosmosXAM
Profile Joined April 2011
United States121 Posts
January 26 2012 03:34 GMT
#154
Well guys thanks for the interesting read tonight, I will be contemplating what has been discussed so far. I won't be able to post again until about 4-5pm CST (-6:00) so please don't take my inactivity until then as a sign of something, best of luck to everyone posting while I will be away.
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CosmosXAM
Profile Joined April 2011
United States121 Posts
January 26 2012 21:23 GMT
#194
A no-lynch in my opinion will be better then killing a townsperson even if it does accomplesh little we do lose less townspeople, now I know I am a target and seem to bandwagon but I have yet to cast a vote and would really like to vote out a mafia or a person who seems most likely to be mafia.
On the note of who I believe as mafia I still am a little nervous about Fakepromise's lack of posts and reappearance then disappearance. And zarepath because all I have seen him do is agree with people and constantly changes his viewpoints. Chocolate was a heat of the moment suspision based on him pressuring me and I don't really think that he is mafia anymore. So with my vote being able to be cahnged in the event of new information I would like to vote now for zarepath based on his "yes man" attitude toward everything and how he never has a solid opinion.
##Vote: zarepath
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CosmosXAM
Profile Joined April 2011
United States121 Posts
January 26 2012 21:41 GMT
#198
On January 27 2012 06:35 MidnightGladius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 06:23 CosmosXAM wrote:
A no-lynch in my opinion will be better then killing a townsperson even if it does accomplesh little we do lose less townspeople, now I know I am a target and seem to bandwagon but I have yet to cast a vote and would really like to vote out a mafia or a person who seems most likely to be mafia.
On the note of who I believe as mafia I still am a little nervous about Fakepromise's lack of posts and reappearance then disappearance. And zarepath because all I have seen him do is agree with people and constantly changes his viewpoints. Chocolate was a heat of the moment suspision based on him pressuring me and I don't really think that he is mafia anymore. So with my vote being able to be cahnged in the event of new information I would like to vote now for zarepath based on his "yes man" attitude toward everything and how he never has a solid opinion.
##Vote: zarepath


A no-lynch does not help us. Not only do we give up the chance of you/FakePromise turning out to be mafia, but it also eliminates the information that would be generated by people arguing for/against certain candidates. If we lynch no one, then it's very likely that we'll just be having this discussion again on Day 2.

I would have predicted an innocent in your position to pick one target and hit hard, not present us with half-formed accusations against multiple players. As none of your arguments are particularly precise, detailed, or convincing, your voting for zarepath now feels even more out of place.

FakePromise's blunder remains more convincing to me, but honestly, at this point you're digging yourself a deeper hole in my eyes. If you don't make a more solid defense before the Day ends, I'm going to strongly favor your lynch tomorrow.


I would not predict someone who has very little experience to simply stick with 1 person to target, I prefer looking at the big picture of things not just what is topical right now in my mind I have a 50/50 thought on who to vote for (the people I listed) so to get others opinions I voted for the one others seemed to have not considered instead of just adding another vote to a person making it easier for the mafia to lynch them if they happened to not be mafia. I did this fully knowing that I could remove my vote if new information came up about either of the two that I have in mind.
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CosmosXAM
Profile Joined April 2011
United States121 Posts
January 27 2012 01:42 GMT
#210
In the few recent posts I have seen defending FakePromise it is all on the basis that he might just be an uninformed townie who makes poor and bad arguments due to inexperience. I see many post's defending the accused essentially chocolate (whom i do not believe is mafia; still not 100% but is a low probability), FakePromise (whom I believe is a strong candidate for mafia), and zarepath (whom I voted for).
In a case where a larger group of 2-4 people strongly defend a person while simultaneously attack another seems to me like a deflection that could be very well employed by a mafia helping a friend: they bring attention off their ally and put pressure on someone who isnt. Now even if it isn't a larger group like that you would think that a person known by the mafia to be mafia would at least be defended a little.
I am seeing a some strong similarities in posts and opinions and some alliances showing their faces, I would advise everyone to re-read some posts by both zarepath and DoYouHas. I noticed that their later posts have striking similarities and that they both seem to just pick targets together, first with zelblade and now with me, and they attacked us while in most cases defending someone else in both cases FakePromise and in DoYouHas's case zarepath. To me this seems very scummy and I stand 100% by my vote on zarepath as of this point.
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CosmosXAM
Profile Joined April 2011
United States121 Posts
January 27 2012 21:19 GMT
#240
Yea sorry I am inactive during most of the day, a lot of school makes this game hard sometimes.

but to answer your question I would have to say that you appear to be town because all you seem to do is forward the conversation and constantly try to keep everyone on track.

and for who is mafia I would have to go with zarepath like I said in earlier posts, I dont feel that fakepromise going town redeems zarepath of my suspisions.
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CosmosXAM
Profile Joined April 2011
United States121 Posts
January 27 2012 21:22 GMT
#242
The you in that post is slOosh
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CosmosXAM
Profile Joined April 2011
United States121 Posts
January 27 2012 22:56 GMT
#265
I just see that deflecting arguments away from themselves by simply pointing out other suspicious people doesn't seem like very town like behavior. Also at that time they had both been voting in unison to my knowledge with DoYouHas being the one to change his vote.

To be honest there is now so much going on in the game that when I try to look at a single person whom I think to be mafia that my information get convoluted, at this time I am just trying to take a step back, slow things down and try to glance at the wider picture and scope of things.
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CosmosXAM
Profile Joined April 2011
United States121 Posts
January 28 2012 00:08 GMT
#271
On January 28 2012 08:37 slOosh wrote:
List of haven't posted yet (in bold)
Bromancipate, SacredSystem, Chocolate, balt11t, CosmosXAM, Adam4167 and zelblade

Cosmos, still waiting for your response.
Adam, you paint a target on your back by the town by not responding. Please post and help town.

Appointment is coming up soon, but I'll be back around 1/2EST to post what I've gleaned from this plan and help interpret the night actions.


Deflecting is a tactic used by many professions involving talking with a people and hiding information or making sure that the conversation goes your way. What they did is instead of focusing on themselves in a town like fashion (in my opinion) they instantly started attacking other people that had been talked about before, To me that felt very mafia like especially with how they sway the conversation away from themselves or try to by pointing out how futile their deaths will be.
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CosmosXAM
Profile Joined April 2011
United States121 Posts
January 28 2012 04:07 GMT
#288
No I have never intended to defend zelblade, sorry if it appeared that way to you but no it was my first post and I was trying to catch up on all the posts beforehand
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CosmosXAM
Profile Joined April 2011
United States121 Posts
January 28 2012 19:39 GMT
#318
Based on my earlier views and new analysis by others I am still 100% backing a vote on zarepath so since it is a new day I continue that vote.
##Vote: zarepath
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CosmosXAM
Profile Joined April 2011
United States121 Posts
January 28 2012 19:42 GMT
#319
Another thing on zarepath that I would like to emphasis (might have been pointed out before) but after looking at the voting thread we can see that he has never been the first person to vote for someone, now this in itself is not a big reason to be suspicious but on top of all the other evidence it becomes more pertinant.
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CosmosXAM
Profile Joined April 2011
United States121 Posts
January 30 2012 03:03 GMT
#361
Woot one for the town!
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CosmosXAM
Profile Joined April 2011
United States121 Posts
January 30 2012 03:12 GMT
#362
But on a more serious matter I think we really have to take a hard look at who was supporting and against zarepath's lynch, even so far back as day 1. We're doing better but we have a long way to go.
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CosmosXAM
Profile Joined April 2011
United States121 Posts
January 30 2012 03:38 GMT
#365
On January 30 2012 12:34 DoYouHas wrote:
Success! We now have a firm piece of ground to from which to reason. Just as CosmosXAM has said, I am going to be looking hard at what happened directly after sl0osh posted his case and I posted my case.

Hey hey hey man, don't forget me posting my case against him just before slOosh
And yea going to bed now, and I have school all day tomorrow so I wont be back until 5 pm CST. Hopefully I will have enough time to read all that happens before Day 3 starts.
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