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McMaster LAN Club is hosting its annual SC2 tournament on Feb 4th!
History:+ Show Spoiler +McMaster LAN Club (MLC) has run several tournaments at McMaster over the paste few years. Most recognizable has always been our Starcraft 2 community and we continue to enjoy giving back to you guys in a competitive manner. Our tournaments are run usually twice yearly, one each semester, and we branch out to other games such as DotA, DotA2, LoL, CS and many more...
When: February 4 2012 Registration 9:30 AM Start 10:00 AM Runs until Midnight
Location: McMaster University- Michale DeGroote Center for Learning (MDCL) Room 1102 in Hamilton Ontario Those of you who go to McMaster know it as MDCL 1102
Prizes: Cost: $10 dollar entry fee Total Players: 50 Slots
Assuming we have a full tournament, 50 x 10 = $500
1st Place: 50% of Prize Pool ~$250 2nd: 30%: Prize Pool ~$150 3rd: 20% Prize Pool ~$100
Style: -BYOC -We can guarantee stable wireless will be available -We HIGHLY recommend you have a wireless card, we cannot guarantee internet for every LAN connection based on the McMaster Internet Protocols due to restrictions imposed by McMaster University Services
Structure: -All round Bo3 -Finals Bo5 -30 minutes to set up for finals -1 hour will be allotted for food
Map Pool: -MLG Shattered Temple -MLG Metalopolis -MLG Shakuras Plateau -MLG Antiga Shipyard -MLG Dual Site -MLG Taldarin Alter
*First map of each round will be drawn from a Hat*
Rules: -You must be present at the event to participate -You must be on time for your games, if you are 5 minutes late, you will be disqualified -The Administrators hold the right to adjust any aspect of the tournament as required to maintian all games being played in the proper amount of time.
Registration: Every one who would like to participate should reserve their slot by emailing maclanclubregister@gmail.com with the follwing information: Subject: SC2-Feb4-Name Full Name: Are you a McMaster Student (Y/N): SC2 Account name: SC2 League and Rank: Will you have a wireless card:
For those of you who aren't wanting to play in the tournament we will still be hosting a LAN party for not just SC2, come by and check it out!
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[Reserved for updates]
January 22 3:59 EST ~ Tournament Structure will be specified by the end of the day; thanks for the feedback.
January 22 4:52 EST Structure has been set Map Pool: -MLG Shattered Temple -MLG Metalopolis -MLG Shakuras Plateau -MLG Antiga Shipyard -MLG Dual Site -MLG Taldarin Alter
*First map of each round will be drawn from a Hat*
Structure: -All round Bo3 -Finals Bo5 -30 minutes to set up for finals - 1 hour will be allotted for food
Administration holds the right to adjust tournament structure to maintain the time frame of the tournament.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Congratulations to: 1st Place: Lightning 2nd Place: MysticaL 3rd Place: Dimvision
Replays and bracket can be found here: http://maclanclub.com/?p=64
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Is it being casted? Cuz as a McMaster Student, I would love to cast and stream it for you guys :D
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I would like to cast it as well I think that would be fun  but i will probably compete as well
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Seems like fun. Wish I could play, but unfortunately I got classes until 1:30. 
How is the spectating going to work because I would love to come by and watch a few games live when I'm done classes and if I don't have any tests that night.
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If we have 10AM until midnight why is it single elimination Bo1!? I feel like bring a computer to the school to potentially get 6 pooled on a 4 player map and go home is kind of weak. How are you doing seeding (I asked this twice in the emails that you told me I was "QQ'ing" in)? Single elim bo1 in a 14 hour tournament is killing ESPORTS.
What does everyone else think? The admins are condescending when I question their format, I am unwillingly to negotiate directly any further. Hopefully others can help make them realize the faults of the format and make this worth paying to enter.
Poll: Single Elim Bo1 an Issue when 14 hour time slot available?Bracket Bo3s -Allows skilled players to compensate for incorporated element of chance; cheese/spawns (8) 67% Pool Play Bo1s (for next round advancement/seeding, guarantees multiple games for all) (3) 25% Other (1) 8% No, keep Bo1 single elim (fair to skilled players and those who are commuting) (0) 0% 12 total votes Your vote: Single Elim Bo1 an Issue when 14 hour time slot available? (Vote): No, keep Bo1 single elim (fair to skilled players and those who are commuting) (Vote): Pool Play Bo1s (for next round advancement/seeding, guarantees multiple games for all) (Vote): Bracket Bo3s -Allows skilled players to compensate for incorporated element of chance; cheese/spawns (Vote): Other
It was implied in the email that I am not a good player if I am not comfortable with unspecified seeding/maps, and single elimination best of 1. I just really have a hard time believing others who play this game would share such opinions about seeding, map and format.
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14 hour time slot is an awful long time for a 50 person tournament where you have BO1s. The tournament itself probably wouldn't last more than 6-7 hours (if that). The pool play thing would be good a idea if it wasn't a 50-person tournament. I feel as if that would make the tournament last over the time the room is available for. Double elimination, or BO3s seem better fitted for this (assuming you're not playing one game at a time). I don't know if I would say it is killing esports, but unless there is some event planned afterwards (viewing of some sort), 14 hour single-elim is overkill.
The players participating in a tournament like this should have the to right to know what to expect and not be belittled for wanting for information or providing ways to improve the formatting of it. That being said, admins are allowed to withold some information regarding the tournament.
In a nutshell, the tournament seems like a great idea, but could do with some improvements. However, it doesn't look good when someone says that the administrators of a tournament are "condescending", nor does it seem appropriate for admins to tell someone they're "QQing" about tournament issues.
Expecting some sort of post by the tournament hosts soon to clear this up.
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On January 21 2012 18:45 DJWilma wrote: Is it being casted? Cuz as a McMaster Student, I would love to cast and stream it for you guys :D
On January 21 2012 19:30 MichaelRadar wrote:I would like to cast it as well I think that would be fun  but i will probably compete as well
DJWilma/MichaelRadar: You are more then welcome to cast it. Please contact me at the registration email and we can talk details.
On January 22 2012 12:49 Jason9228 wrote:Seems like fun. Wish I could play, but unfortunately I got classes until 1:30.  How is the spectating going to work because I would love to come by and watch a few games live when I'm done classes and if I don't have any tests that night.
Jason9228: Tournament is on a Saturday; classes shouldn't interfere unless you're doing midterms.
On January 22 2012 13:32 Unhallowed wrote: How are you doing seeding (I asked this twice in the emails that you told me I was "QQ'ing" in)?
Hallowed: I don't know who you've been talking to but I think you might be confused; I have not received one email from you, nor have the other executives. Next time, please do not make up stories...
Update: Tournament Structure will be specified today, once a unanimous decision has been made by the staff.
Thank you for your feedback and time.
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I think taking a poll is a good idea, but I think we should worry about that maybe after the first tournament is held.
I'd don't understand Unhallowed's short temper, but I can understand why he's displeased to pay $10 to possibly lose one game and then you are out... I think that maybe the format could be changed the night of, and once we get a player count we could draft a better but also more simple format.
this is just a suggestion though, not trying to overthrow anybody's position here
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**Tournament structure updated** thanks for the feedback.
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Oh if it's on a Saturday I might come out. You might want to fix the OP, it says tournament is on Friday
When: Friday, Feb 03 10:00am EST (GMT-05:00)
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That was based on using the [ date] tags, I fixed it. Thanks.
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On January 23 2012 05:55 Infest.er wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 18:45 DJWilma wrote: Is it being casted? Cuz as a McMaster Student, I would love to cast and stream it for you guys :D Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 19:30 MichaelRadar wrote:I would like to cast it as well I think that would be fun  but i will probably compete as well DJWilma/MichaelRadar: You are more then welcome to cast it. Please contact me at the registration email and we can talk details. Show nested quote +On January 22 2012 12:49 Jason9228 wrote:Seems like fun. Wish I could play, but unfortunately I got classes until 1:30.  How is the spectating going to work because I would love to come by and watch a few games live when I'm done classes and if I don't have any tests that night. Jason9228: Tournament is on a Saturday; classes shouldn't interfere unless you're doing midterms. Show nested quote +On January 22 2012 13:32 Unhallowed wrote: How are you doing seeding (I asked this twice in the emails that you told me I was "QQ'ing" in)? Hallowed: I don't know who you've been talking to but I think you might be confused; I have not received one email from you, nor have the other executives. Next time, please do not make up stories... Update: Tournament Structure will be specified today, once a unanimous decision has been made by the staff. Thank you for your feedback and time.
I received multiple responses to the same email. I thought the subject line was QQ but that was the person's name it seems. At least the format is changed now, good job in that regard. If you want to say I made up stories feel free to PM me an email address in which I forward the email. I am done with anything drama or perception based. My intent the entire time was to make a decent format so your administration could be more respectful in the way I am responded to, and in uninformed accusations pertaining to the notion that I formulated the scenario in which I felt I was mistreated.
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Sounds awesome. Are spectators allowed to come and watch/socialize?
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You guys should but up some Vods, would be cool to watch
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Spectators are more then welcome to come and watch. Vods will be available pending how streaming goes.
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Couple ideas: put up tournament on Playhem and get stream listed on Tl. Secondly, can we share pc's between two people?
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Due to scheduling you must use your own computer. I will look into the stream listings.
Thank you for your feedback and sorry for any inconvenience.
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How close are we to the 50 slots?
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