• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 14:01
CEST 20:01
KST 03:01
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 211ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon315.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes35Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch5[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)99
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon 5.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes HomeStory Cup In Early July
Tourneys
HomeStory Cup 29 Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10 Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery Mutation # 530 One For All
Brood War
General
Farewell Beloved Starcraft (Youtube Videos) BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Starcraft vs Retro Category on Twitch
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 The Casual Games of the Week Thread [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Grand Finals
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Summer Games Done Quick 2026! ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Men's Fashion Thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Listen To The Coaches!
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9876 users

Sleeper Cell Mafia II

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 21 2012 07:44 GMT
#55
/in
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 26 2012 11:50 GMT
#188
/confirm

Started a little earlier than I would have liked, would be a bit less active these few days. I will still make it a point to read and post though.

What is this arguing about semantics about calling people town/not scum? Wtf is this? I think what Radfield is trying to say is to not publicly call out people as townish, and rather focus on calling people out as scum. Focusing on negative posts than positive posts, that's what it is.

And rad, meapak has a very good point. It seems like you're warning your fellow scum, how do you respond to that?

Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 26 2012 22:17 GMT
#265
I'm awake, reading this thread really fast while I have time before school today.

Cwave seems to have scumslipped, and I wouldn't mind voting him based on that. Then again, he was pretty scummy when he was VT in purgatory too, so I don't mind waiting for a better lynch target.


Mafia have very little motivation to call out someone they think might be sending messages. It puts both them and their potential buddy in the spotlight.


That said however, I don't think Cwave is an idiot. He might very well be trying to hide in plain sight as scum here just because someone might think like this, trying to out himself to other sleeper cell members.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 27 2012 13:58 GMT
#285
Zeph, don't you agree that Navi is defending Rad pretty hard? If you're voting for him, shouldnt you be suspicious of Rad too?
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 27 2012 23:59 GMT
#403
Just woke up again, sorry, when is the deadline again? I probably should vote before I go to school.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 28 2012 00:01 GMT
#406
Alright, seems like consensus is on Radfield. If he flips sleeper agent then we can probably take a closer look at Navi. Even if scum doesn't know who each other are, they'll still try to defend people they think are scum, so I certainly think that they deserve more of a look.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 28 2012 00:06 GMT
#416
A Sexy Vote Count!

Radfield (3): Meapak_Ziphh, Cwave, Jackal58

Navillus (2): RedFF, Zephridd

RedFF (2) Bumatlarge, Navillus

Cwave (1): GGQ

Lanaia (1): Hesmyrr

Meapak_Ziphh (1): BlazingHand

I went with the votecount on page 16 after I checked and realised I had like, a min left, my bad.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 28 2012 00:11 GMT
#424
Welp, I'm gonna be hard pressed trying to get myself out of this one.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 28 2012 00:14 GMT
#429
Pretty much. I have no excuse. Literally just woke up, forgot this wasn't purgatory where it was 72/24 cycles, people were pushing Radfield early on in the thread already + page 16, the newest page from where I left off last night had a voting count with Rad in the lead, realizing i had 1 min left, didn't want to get modkilled, voted Radfield.

...My bad.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 28 2012 04:48 GMT
#442
I'll do it when I get back tonight. In school at the moment.

Yes, I accept I will probably get lynched tomorrow. It seems only right that I should try to at least make a good post about my reads once I have the time, so yes, blazing, I will do that.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 28 2012 12:38 GMT
#448
I'm not going to lie, I feel really retarded right now. Real life has been a continual bitch and things keep popping up, and I feel like I have acted very irresponsibly by joining this game.

So, to try and salve my guilty conscious a bit, here's a case on bumatlarge.

On January 26 2012 17:26 bumatlarge wrote:
I've always been a fan of not saying who I think is town, and just saying who I think is scum. I think that's what radfield is trying to say.

I do agree with meapak, that one glaring middle section in radfield's post is suspicious, I think it's more of him over-emphasizing his point to a degree that he actual talks about the exact strat he is trying to prevent. I think the major offender is this: "We need to ensure this does not happen. Therefore I propose that NO ONE call anyone else town. Players are either scummy, very scummy, definitely scum, OR not scum. That is all. If you think someone is almost for sure town, you still just have to call them 'not scum'."

It makes the whole warning completely void when you push that, rather then simply not discussing your town reads.


Ok, so right off the bat, he buddies Meapak in trying to lynch Radfield, by claiming that he's breadcrumbing...

but he breadcrumbs
I don't see anyway I could hint that I'm scum without townies seeing it, or that townies could just fake?


here too,

Then when radfield calls him out on it,

Well maybe it is a hidden breadcrumb for me not to get shot, and I'm not scum? Your move kaiba.


What is this? He actually claims that he is breadcrumbing, and the reason for that is so that he "dosen't get shot"? Does this not scream I AM SLEEPER AGENT DON'T SHOOT ME to you? It does for me.

Then he pushes Radfield over and over again over that little 'not scum' part of the plan, and Radfield is lynched and turned blue.

Meh it's radfield's fault

Didn't realize how close I came to actually getting lynched.


Or maybe it's because you among many was tunneling him over a case which never really grew from the first point of Radfield establishing a "not scum" term to describe townies.

Really regret missing out on the timetable for the game and having to vote in less than a min when I woke up and checked the thread, and so just throwing my vote on Radfield not having read like 10 pages of the thread. That was just terrible by me.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 29 2012 02:29 GMT
#498
But what made you think BH was scum at the first place and why has things changed, Lanaia?

And does no one else want to lynch bum?
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 29 2012 07:32 GMT
#509
Well, ##Vote redFF
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 29 2012 13:15 GMT
#515
I voted him because he obviously had some sort of role related reason why he was asking people to vote. And since scum has no special powers, I figured he was a blue and thus I voted him...?

How is that scummy? The fuck?
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 29 2012 14:43 GMT
#517
1. Because scum had no such power in sleeper cell mafia 1
2. Because role-claiming in this form (you do agree that he is roleclaiming?) basically forces you to state your entire role in full and what effect and why you asked for someone to vote you. In other words it opens you up to extreme scrutiny by town. Why would mafia do that?

And I was directing the "how is that scummy?" to blazinghand
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 29 2012 14:43 GMT
#518
For what it's worth I want to vote for bumatlarge today so once redFF explains fully what has happened I'll be moving my vote.

Going to bed.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 30 2012 00:19 GMT
#553
Lanaia sure is buddying BH so hard this game.

I'm moving my vote to bumatlarge.

redFF any chance you can tell us what my voting for you did?
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 30 2012 11:04 GMT
#575
On January 30 2012 19:49 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2012 19:48 Blazinghand wrote:
On January 30 2012 19:21 Lanaia wrote:
I'll disclose if I'm forced to.


._. this is a really dumb post

cwave is a moron, but this was dumb.


EBWOP never mind I think I misread you in the post before this.


Nope, I'm pretty sure it was a dumb post.

BH, what do you think about the bumatlarge wagon?
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 30 2012 23:14 GMT
#609
Looks like I survive today.
Fwiw I dont think Lanaia or blazinghand is town.

Gonna write up a case when I get back from school! Stay tuned!
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 31 2012 04:41 GMT
#630
Yeah jackal tomorrow.
And Lanaia I don't know wtf you're smoking I said I don't think you or BH are scum.
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
HomeStory Cup
11:00
XXIX - Group Stage Day 1
TaKeTV3572
ComeBackTV 986
TaKeSeN 327
IndyStarCraft 294
SteadfastSC291
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
IndyStarCraft 294
SteadfastSC 291
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 23082
Mini 1208
Shuttle 708
ggaemo 195
actioN 171
Free 40
Aegong 26
910 26
Rock 19
HiyA 17
[ Show more ]
NaDa 15
IntoTheRainbow 15
Bale 11
Dota 2
Gorgc999
Counter-Strike
fl0m1853
kRYSTAL_53
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King90
Heroes of the Storm
Trikslyr81
Other Games
Grubby2205
B2W.Neo486
Hui .165
KnowMe145
C9.Mang0115
ArmadaUGS60
ToD51
UpATreeSC27
JuggernautJason16
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream160
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 61
• mYiSmile135
• IndyKCrew
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix10
• Michael_bg 10
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis4426
• TFBlade1083
Other Games
• imaqtpie687
• Shiphtur497
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
6h
HomeStory Cup
17h
Replay Cast
1d 6h
HomeStory Cup
1d 17h
OSC
1d 19h
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
CrankTV Team League
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
[ Show More ]
CrankTV Team League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

YSL S3
Douyu Cup 2026
Murky Cup 2026

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
Escore Tournament S3: W1
SCTL 2026 Spring
HSC XXIX
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
Escore Tournament S3: W2
ASL Season 22:Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
Heroes Pulsing #3
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.