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Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 21 2012 07:44 GMT
#55
/in
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 26 2012 11:50 GMT
#188
/confirm

Started a little earlier than I would have liked, would be a bit less active these few days. I will still make it a point to read and post though.

What is this arguing about semantics about calling people town/not scum? Wtf is this? I think what Radfield is trying to say is to not publicly call out people as townish, and rather focus on calling people out as scum. Focusing on negative posts than positive posts, that's what it is.

And rad, meapak has a very good point. It seems like you're warning your fellow scum, how do you respond to that?

Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 26 2012 22:17 GMT
#265
I'm awake, reading this thread really fast while I have time before school today.

Cwave seems to have scumslipped, and I wouldn't mind voting him based on that. Then again, he was pretty scummy when he was VT in purgatory too, so I don't mind waiting for a better lynch target.


Mafia have very little motivation to call out someone they think might be sending messages. It puts both them and their potential buddy in the spotlight.


That said however, I don't think Cwave is an idiot. He might very well be trying to hide in plain sight as scum here just because someone might think like this, trying to out himself to other sleeper cell members.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 27 2012 13:58 GMT
#285
Zeph, don't you agree that Navi is defending Rad pretty hard? If you're voting for him, shouldnt you be suspicious of Rad too?
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 27 2012 23:59 GMT
#403
Just woke up again, sorry, when is the deadline again? I probably should vote before I go to school.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 28 2012 00:01 GMT
#406
Alright, seems like consensus is on Radfield. If he flips sleeper agent then we can probably take a closer look at Navi. Even if scum doesn't know who each other are, they'll still try to defend people they think are scum, so I certainly think that they deserve more of a look.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 28 2012 00:06 GMT
#416
A Sexy Vote Count!

Radfield (3): Meapak_Ziphh, Cwave, Jackal58

Navillus (2): RedFF, Zephridd

RedFF (2) Bumatlarge, Navillus

Cwave (1): GGQ

Lanaia (1): Hesmyrr

Meapak_Ziphh (1): BlazingHand

I went with the votecount on page 16 after I checked and realised I had like, a min left, my bad.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 28 2012 00:11 GMT
#424
Welp, I'm gonna be hard pressed trying to get myself out of this one.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 28 2012 00:14 GMT
#429
Pretty much. I have no excuse. Literally just woke up, forgot this wasn't purgatory where it was 72/24 cycles, people were pushing Radfield early on in the thread already + page 16, the newest page from where I left off last night had a voting count with Rad in the lead, realizing i had 1 min left, didn't want to get modkilled, voted Radfield.

...My bad.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 28 2012 04:48 GMT
#442
I'll do it when I get back tonight. In school at the moment.

Yes, I accept I will probably get lynched tomorrow. It seems only right that I should try to at least make a good post about my reads once I have the time, so yes, blazing, I will do that.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 28 2012 12:38 GMT
#448
I'm not going to lie, I feel really retarded right now. Real life has been a continual bitch and things keep popping up, and I feel like I have acted very irresponsibly by joining this game.

So, to try and salve my guilty conscious a bit, here's a case on bumatlarge.

On January 26 2012 17:26 bumatlarge wrote:
I've always been a fan of not saying who I think is town, and just saying who I think is scum. I think that's what radfield is trying to say.

I do agree with meapak, that one glaring middle section in radfield's post is suspicious, I think it's more of him over-emphasizing his point to a degree that he actual talks about the exact strat he is trying to prevent. I think the major offender is this: "We need to ensure this does not happen. Therefore I propose that NO ONE call anyone else town. Players are either scummy, very scummy, definitely scum, OR not scum. That is all. If you think someone is almost for sure town, you still just have to call them 'not scum'."

It makes the whole warning completely void when you push that, rather then simply not discussing your town reads.


Ok, so right off the bat, he buddies Meapak in trying to lynch Radfield, by claiming that he's breadcrumbing...

but he breadcrumbs
I don't see anyway I could hint that I'm scum without townies seeing it, or that townies could just fake?


here too,

Then when radfield calls him out on it,

Well maybe it is a hidden breadcrumb for me not to get shot, and I'm not scum? Your move kaiba.


What is this? He actually claims that he is breadcrumbing, and the reason for that is so that he "dosen't get shot"? Does this not scream I AM SLEEPER AGENT DON'T SHOOT ME to you? It does for me.

Then he pushes Radfield over and over again over that little 'not scum' part of the plan, and Radfield is lynched and turned blue.

Meh it's radfield's fault

Didn't realize how close I came to actually getting lynched.


Or maybe it's because you among many was tunneling him over a case which never really grew from the first point of Radfield establishing a "not scum" term to describe townies.

Really regret missing out on the timetable for the game and having to vote in less than a min when I woke up and checked the thread, and so just throwing my vote on Radfield not having read like 10 pages of the thread. That was just terrible by me.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 29 2012 02:29 GMT
#498
But what made you think BH was scum at the first place and why has things changed, Lanaia?

And does no one else want to lynch bum?
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 29 2012 07:32 GMT
#509
Well, ##Vote redFF
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 29 2012 13:15 GMT
#515
I voted him because he obviously had some sort of role related reason why he was asking people to vote. And since scum has no special powers, I figured he was a blue and thus I voted him...?

How is that scummy? The fuck?
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 29 2012 14:43 GMT
#517
1. Because scum had no such power in sleeper cell mafia 1
2. Because role-claiming in this form (you do agree that he is roleclaiming?) basically forces you to state your entire role in full and what effect and why you asked for someone to vote you. In other words it opens you up to extreme scrutiny by town. Why would mafia do that?

And I was directing the "how is that scummy?" to blazinghand
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 29 2012 14:43 GMT
#518
For what it's worth I want to vote for bumatlarge today so once redFF explains fully what has happened I'll be moving my vote.

Going to bed.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 30 2012 00:19 GMT
#553
Lanaia sure is buddying BH so hard this game.

I'm moving my vote to bumatlarge.

redFF any chance you can tell us what my voting for you did?
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 30 2012 11:04 GMT
#575
On January 30 2012 19:49 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2012 19:48 Blazinghand wrote:
On January 30 2012 19:21 Lanaia wrote:
I'll disclose if I'm forced to.


._. this is a really dumb post

cwave is a moron, but this was dumb.


EBWOP never mind I think I misread you in the post before this.


Nope, I'm pretty sure it was a dumb post.

BH, what do you think about the bumatlarge wagon?
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 30 2012 23:14 GMT
#609
Looks like I survive today.
Fwiw I dont think Lanaia or blazinghand is town.

Gonna write up a case when I get back from school! Stay tuned!
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 31 2012 04:41 GMT
#630
Yeah jackal tomorrow.
And Lanaia I don't know wtf you're smoking I said I don't think you or BH are scum.
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