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A Killer Cuppa Tea
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A Killer Cuppa Tea
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On January 03 2012 16:40 A Killer Cuppa Tea wrote: /in if I'm not too late! I guess I was too late  | ||
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A Killer Cuppa Tea
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On January 05 2012 15:32 GreYMisT wrote: A Killer Cuppa Tea has replaced CookieMaker! Howdy y'all. I'm a little behind on the topic, so I'm gonna catch up and write up a nice big post for y'all later on today. Before that though: Hi! I'm AKillerCuppaTea, but you can call me Tea. I'm from the UK. My experience of mafia on TL is none whatsoever, but I have played a pretty large amount of games on a number of other forums as well as irc. Any questions you might have for me, please put here and I'll have a look at and answer then as soon as I can. Oh, and I don't know the circumstances of my replacement /shrug. | ||
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A Killer Cuppa Tea
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1) in a number of the other forums I've played on, people tend to have easily visible avatars which I use to remember who their are (kinda puts a face to a name, making em easier to remember). Is there a way to do summat similar here or am I stuck with learning all your names? 2) is there a way to quote multiple posts at once easily? In one of the forums inplay on, there's a button you can click that adds each quote to a sorta clipboard and all the quotes appear when you click on Post Reply. I'm not being very clear here, but I don't know how else to ddescrkbe it. It's sorta an "Add-Quote" button. | ||
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A Killer Cuppa Tea
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Allow me to state my stance on this (it differes massively from my predecessor, it seems). There are three ways we can handle D1. We can 1) No Lynch, 2) Mislynch or 3) Lynch Scum. It is not possible to Random Lynch. Why? Because Random implies that there is no reasoning behind the lynch and that it happens, almost spontaneously. It is already too late for this to happen. it is not an accident that i ordered the three things we can do in that order. I order them from Worst --> Best. I'll explain why: 1) No Lynch - This is badbadbad and we should never ever ever NL on any day that isn't a MYLO. The lynch is town's Primary Weapon. Not the cop. Not the doc. Not any other Power Role. The lynch. This is, when you get down to it, a game of the Uninformed Majority vs the Informed Minority. The Majority - town - has no information. The minority - scum - has a lot of information. The way to beat the minority? Information. How, then, do we gain information? Through cop results? Yyyyyyyyyyyyyyy-no. Nevieer rely on a Power Role. That's silly. What you gonna do the one game that the cop dies N1? Roll over and die? No, the best form of information is the lynch for reasons i shall dictate below. 2) Mislynch - Oh no, we lynched town. Is it the end of the world? Nope. Not even if we lynch a PR (altho i hope we don't). Its not an ideal situation, but its nowhere near as bad as it may sound. Consider the following: 1) Scum must vote too. 2) Scum know who Scum are. 3) Scum will be eager to lynch Town* By analysing behaviour and how people vote, and in what order, and how they jump on and off wagons, it can be incredibly helpful to see who the Scum are. Now, i'm not claiming to be the best in votal analysis (That's a friend of mine, we cann him The Machine because of how damned consistent he is in finding scum), but i'm pretty decent at it. Here are a few pointers: --Scum doesn't like to start wagons. --Scum doesn't like voting next to each other --Scum will often jump onto a wagon on a townie early --Scum will often jump onto a wagon on a fellow scumate late. In fact, in my experiance playing mafia, i find that finding connections between people is much easier when we Mislynch then whren we actually hit scum. Although, thats just personal experiance, really. *Of course, this does not mean that they won't lynch scum in order to get on town's good side, but thats Wine. 3) Lynching Scum - yay, we're a scum down and even have a juicy wagon to analyse! Awesomesauce! So, what am i saying here? Lynch for the sake of lynching? Of course not, that's terrible!!! And i think this is the problem that most people who are Anti-D1-Lynch as Town have with Lynching. We make an Informed Lynch, not a Random Lynch. We ask everyone for their specific reasons for voting and if they ain't to par, we hold them to it. Now, i'm going to admit to a Thing here. I'm not the best scumhunter in the world. I tend to find more scum via mechanics then by actual hunting (hence the reason this post has been mostly a mechanics post then a read-post), but i've learned a great tool that helps me hunt scum. Questions! Seeing how people react to questions is incredibly informative. As such, i am going to ask the follow questions to everyone in the game, both to start conversation and also to give people reason to slip. Most of what i've read so far (i read the fikrst 8 pages and skimmed through the rest) have been mostly going back and forth over the same little things. i'm hoping these questions will bring some more information to the table. (Also, these questions aren't rolefishing because im asking them of everybody.) 1) If you were a Cop (could determine the alignment of somebody during the night), who's alignment would you check and why? 2) If you were a Doc (could save someone from a nightkill), who would you save and why? 3) If you were a Vigilante (town-aligned nightkill) who would you kill and why? 4) If you were a Town-Aligned Roleblocker (could prevent someone from using their night action for a night) who would you block, and why? (Also, remember, an RB can act as a soft-cop. If you block someone and there's no nightkill, you may have blocked the mafia's kill! (Yes i know there's no Vig or RB in this setup.)) 5) If you have a vote on someone currently, please explain your vote. 6) If you don't have a vote on somebody, please park your vote on someone. Have an opinion. It doesn't matter if you're wrong. Abstainance lets scum hide amongst you! I'll answer my own questions, as well as vote someone, and post some reads, when i have caught up proper (which should be later today). i thought i'd post a mechanics-related post before i caught up and posted reads to show y'all that i was here and also state my opinion on a discussion that occured before i joined the game. | ||
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A Killer Cuppa Tea
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I will not change my vote to Cephiro to follow some as I have more certainty that CM/Tea is scummy. I'm driving back to VA from Montreal today so I can be active for maybe a few more hours but wont be for the rest of the day. If you would be so kind, could you post a couple of lines as to what CM did that was so scummy? I'm sure i'll end up reading it anyways as i catch up, but i'd like it from the horse's mouth, so to speak. | ||
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A Killer Cuppa Tea
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On January 05 2012 23:43 Blurry wrote: The "I don't have to post analysis because he already said it post" Other than that most of his posts have contributed nothing and have just been filler. Didn't post his reads on any players until he was pressured into doing it. Don't you think these could just as easily be newbslips rather then scumslips? 'least, thats the way it looks to me. On January 06 2012 01:49 Jitsu wrote: There is e secplenty of discussion in the mean-time where questions like these waste more logical thought than is required. If you want to WIFOM the proposed blue specials, do it later, but as of right now, there are better things to discuss, especially with the limited time we have left in the day to center our votes on someone. The DT and Medic are both roles that will need to be smart about who they use it for. Why are you even bringing in a Vig/Role Blocker when they aren't even in the game for the Town? I think there is a better question to be asked right now. Cookie subbed out at a bad time for you Tea. I don't think i'm the only one that is suspicious of the role that Cookie was given. Now, onto the second part that caught my eye. The bolded part at the end - the simple "you." I assume the "Abstinence lets scum hide among "you" refers to the town. However, since I was given the role of VT, I would have worded it as "us." Scum slip this early? Not a good start. I still think that if Cats flips red, you will too. But I also think that you're role is red. On the contrary, i find that asking questions such as these provide responses which can be most telling! I know that there isnt a vig or a blocker in the game right now, but those are the standard four questions i tend to ask in mafia games (i usually play closed setups). Its not so much what you'd do with your role, its your reasoning that proves to be interesting. Incidentally, it appears that you think i am asking these questions in order to wine the actual power roles and scums attitude towards them. This is not the case - i am asking because this is a tool i have always found helpful to help hunt scum! As for the part that you bolded - i thought it was clear that the "You" referred to the people who abstained, not town as a whole. It seems you are clutching at straws! Are you asking me to roleclaim? Because i don't want to do that regardless of what my role is. I've always considered Role Claims to be Bad (with a capital B!) and only to be used as a last resort. I'm nowhere near my last resort yet. After all, i just started playing! I understand that CM has left me in a bit of a poor spot...i'd like to remind you that Newbs often make slips that look scummy but are in fact newbslips. Too many times i've mislynched newbs for these slips! I'd further like to ask that you judge me on the posts that i make if possible (the quantity of which will hopefully rise soon). Whilst i of course understand that this slot wasn't played solely by me, its rather more difficult to defend CM then it is to defend myself, because i dont know what drove his actions, yknow? As for my reads...i'm getting a couple of light ones right now, but i'd rather do it justice and make one Big post (like my Mechanics post) so that i can both collect all my reads in one place and give ample reasoning behind them. I intend to sit down for an hour or so to do this properly later on tonight when i can have an unbroken hour of just mafia. I'll prolly end up writing a couple of paragraphs on each player stating what i think of em. | ||
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