Mr. Wiggles Mini Mafia I

On December 24 2011 03:38 sephirotharg wrote:
RE: GiygaS

No, you misinterpreted my post - I expected somebody to notice that part about me lurking long before they did - I didn't expect to get votes so early!

You see, mafia will tend to push for a mis-lynch day 1 - and I don't mind putting myself out there as a target, if it lures them out of hiding. So, anyone who has pushed for lynching me, consider yourself on notice.

And the last objection you have to me: my asking people about day 1 lynches did indeed generate discussion. See this post:



And this one:

On December 25 2011 06:38 sephirotharg wrote:


Care to expand on that? Why do you believe Jay and not me? Lay out your reasoning, convince others. That's the town play.

On December 25 2011 22:20 Dirkzor wrote:
GiygaS:

I would like to kill him. It would atleast be very interesting to see what he flips. (Wow batman slow down... It's ALWAYS interesting what people flip... O_o)

+ Show Spoiler +
As i wrote earlier (see spoiler) he jumped on the Seph wagon prette early without much reasoning. He don't want to vote on a person with just 1 post but immediatly after sephs 2nd post he votes for him with not much more to go after then after the first post.
I thought he was scum after the first post, it was confirmed (for me) in the second post, for the reasons I entailed in that post. Why is that so hard to believe?
After this he have a few post with nothing in them. Then he is gone for almost 24hours and comes back posting this:


He admits that he just skimmed trough "the whole jaybrundage thing" but in the same post comes to the conclusion that Seph is more scummy than Jay. The reasoning for thinking Seph is scum is okay, but not very in-depth considering how much Seph had actually written to defend himself at this point.
I didn't come to the conclusion that Seph was more scummy, I came to the conclusion that he WAS scummy (you must have agreed considering you voted for him too.) I did say I only skimmed through the jay thing because I was saying that I was going to read through it and give my thoughts, which I did in the next post 30 minutes later. I said I was going to post my thoughts, and the throughts weren't really all that in-depth in my mind either that Jay wasn't AS scummy as seph, of course, now I have my doubts on him based off seph's results, going to be looking through his filter some.
The last post just screams scumbuddy to me. No reasoning. No logic. Just a statement to further enhance the image that Jay is a good guy.
How does it scream scumbuddy? I posted my thoughts that I didn't think Jay was as scummy as Seph, that's it that's all. I'll be honest, I was tunelling on Seph, which I won't do again.


This post is to me a null read. But i'll run over it anyway. The first part (bolded) makes perfectly sense to me. GiygaS argues that the case on Jay is mostly twisting words and then acknowledges that the case on Seph is similar but to him its more _how_ seph responded then what was the actual case. Again i would have liked to see more in-depth analysis. How did Seph react to make you think he was scum? How did Jay react better?
Last part of the post is again defending Jay on why he hasn't scumhunted (besides Seph). At this early stage of the game why would you defend someone? It just strikes me as weird since it is hard to get a read this early.
Sorry, I'll be more in-depth with my thoughts from now on *salute*

All in all not much was done from his side on day1. Would we have missed him if he had not posted at all? (yes he had a few post regarding lynch policy but those are useless) He pushed gently towards Seph in the beginning not overcommiting. Then later comes back and push Seph again without going all out crazy bananas mega case. Small nudges to get wagon on seph to continue while taking of spotlight from potential scumbuddy Jay.