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As for the general play of this game. It is responsibility mafia. This should just mean Ver has made a game that is designed to stop blatant asshattery. Playing badly will get punished is the general take. Now one point of this game that has me instantly glued to is the whole idea of RNG day 1 lynch. L is saying its anti town to base an initial lynch off it while palmar believes it is pro town. Guess what? L is right, Palmar is wrong. RNG the person who is lynched gives no real onus to the player or players responsible for the name being brought up and then lynched. In a game with a no flip on role mechanic will also not let us glean information about the games setup. Since the advantage of discussing lynch choices day 1 is forcing people to take a stand via analysis not luck. If you analyze player x and they flip town you look slightly bad. If the logic used was poor then information was garnered on the accuser. If you RNG a day 1 lynch it is a crap shot and you learn near nothing from the lynch except the few peoples stance on RNG who started the process. Now as Palmar is pushing an obvious shitty play I will quote something of his. On December 20 2011 08:05 Palmar wrote: Alright people, let's make this a game worth referencing to new people if they want to see how mafia should be played. No lazy posting, no bullshit. Step your game up, for your post you have a filter of terribly uninspired posts talking about very neutral topics. | ||
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On December 21 2011 18:53 Palmar wrote: Are you around for a bit syllo? I really need someone to talk to. Yes I do agree that GM would be a pretty good lynch today. I tried to get him to explain why all he had to offer was policy lynches but he hasn't posted since. I don't think we should be lynching prplhz though, he's marginally more useful than most people in this thread. Did you notice that BloodyC0bbler came into the thread and the one thing he focused on was the RNG idea, something that had been out of the discussion for a long while by then. I still believe it's a good idea if a town would roll with it from the start, but at the point his post is completely irrelevant to the discussion, to the point that this post is basically a huge pile of nothing. We know absolutely nothing about BC from that one post. In addition I've had a problem with L's posting since the very beginning, I don't know if this was how you posted back when he was playing but in today's environment that's almost enough to just lynch him by default. And finally, what do you think about WBG's case on LSB? Do you agree with me that it felt a bit forced, especially the part where he basically flat out accused LSB of being a SK? Did anyone notice that aside from a post about rng, random accusations with no merit and posting random fluff posts talking generalities about things Palmar had provided nothing of any substance in any town way, including this post? Hell up to this post most of them were total spam posts. Has anyone noticed he made a few more fluff posts then followed it up on a case against GM for wanting to policy lynch a Hydra? Account sharers have proven to ruin games and have an advantage other players don't. Starting a game off before any information is gleaned by saying "lets off the hydras" is not a terrible post. Had he been actively pushing it and bullying people to do so maybe. He then makes a post to "further incriminate" gm then again attacks me based off my post I made saying that I only covered 3 points. One of those points is "vague" to only players who aren't seriously reading this thread, one point was on talking about something that was so obviously scummy and was something palmar said was pro town (its not) that I had to comment. Even if someone says something ages before you post, if it scummy you comment on it. People do not get a free pass on old comments. I then told him to stop making vague posts. He was doing so till that point and only started giving somewhat non shite posts after I called him out. So apparently 3 valid points. Now, I only respond to these posts as he was tossing shit my way for my play. Up until I called him out Palmar was playing like shite. However he is actively playing so I am inclined to let him continue posting to give us a better read on him. As for the game at hand as it is now. LSB should be hanged. Anyone go filter him. He hasn't really defended himself at all from any heat given, nor has he provided any real analysis on anyone. Near every post of his seems to be quoting people asking questions of clarification on shite rather than contributing in any meaningful manner. Near none of his posts say fuck all about himself and most of them are short as the "long ones" are only long due to quote usage. So until he comes out with anything substantial to keep him alive im voting him. ##vote lsb | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
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On December 23 2011 10:36 Palmar wrote: Why don't you let BC defend himself WBG? Do you have a problem with him being forced to do something this game? Do you have a reason to be such a raving dick? Everyone has reasons both in game and outside of game that dictate their level of activeness in a game. Currently as it stands I have been insanely busy with work, xmas related shite, family stuff. If you noticed ver made a post about the level of some players was going to be lower than others? Guess what, I was one of those. Before you instantly start jumping on a vet for being "inactive" or "he has done nothing helpful" why don't you take something a host has mentioned and leave the "inactives" alone and go after the people who are being active. Until day 2 arrives you had no real idea of who was in the net of players who were going to be less active for day 1. However you still chose to jump up and down at me as well as other players. Now who wants to see the interesting bit? Check out Palmars Filter. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=295384&user=87086 Who has he analyzed? For a player like Palmar for a day 1 with all the posting has down. He didn't analyze a single player. He FoS or argues with a ton of people, never builds a case then promptly jumps on the lsb wagon. (which I am guilty of voting for the same person, and as much as I'd like to say I'd swap my vote I wasn't here to). This game of yours palmar is nothing like your play from the last game we played together where you were town. You were actively pushing against some people and at least had analysis then, here you have nothing but generalities with no real solid contributions of your own. | ||
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On December 23 2011 13:55 chaoser wrote: BTW, does anyone know what LSB flipped? I can't seem to find it anywhere. Is he just a vanilla townie? closed setup, all we get is alignment of player, not role. | ||
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I shot GM. Be back in a bit or sometime tommorrow. | ||
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On December 26 2011 12:56 kitaman27 wrote: What do you think? Would you be willing to vote for him? @BC. Firstly, what is your role? The sooner the better, as we need as much time as possible to digest the claim. Secondly, if GM could confirm his alignment with his vig shot why did you decide to shoot him anyways? was only able to shoot gm, and the possibility of him claiming "i got rbed" was far too likely if he was red. As such I fired. | ||
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On December 27 2011 00:45 syllogism wrote: BC can you full claim; for some reason you didn't despite being asked to earlier. I find it curious that you found it a good idea to "waste" your shot like that in the light of your filter suggesting that you were suspicious of Palmar who had been pushing GM for most of day 1. ##vote BloodyC0bbler I couldn't shoot palmar or I would have. Before lsb was lynched I was able to shoot him as well but with his lynch that became impossible. Near every kp role in this game as a trigger from what I can tell so far and until the conditions have been met you can't use your powers. Plain and simple. | ||
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On December 27 2011 10:17 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Interesting considering that we as town actually don't know any of the roles as fact, but the mafia does. gg~ Good thing 2 people claimed roles which prove my point, I said as much and two other players directly implied it. Glad even the inactive guy barely posting has read enough to not be a retard. | ||
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On December 27 2011 10:40 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: So you thought GM was town and believed his claim but shot him? Or after the fact you now believe him? Either way you inferred absolute knowledge which none of us should have or feel comfortable saying we have. But as I said before, everything you claimed has been too convenient. Well, since he flipped town I believe his claim, just as lsb flipped and I believe his. Two others breadcrumbed all this previously. I thought GM was red based on his counterclaim (as he used it to discredit and then solidify the lsb lynch). I know my role and I know two claimed roles, I as such recognized implied information given by others. | ||
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On December 28 2011 10:04 prplhz wrote: @Foolishness Why did you not change your vote to BloodyC0bbler then? You didn't push wherebugsgo very hard either, it was one post that might have attracted attention, but nobody really picked up the ball from there. Are you telling me that you thought that your vote was more well placed on wherebugsgo than on BloodyC0bbler, who had a lot more votes and who you also thought was scum? If you still think we should lynch wherebugsgo, then why didn't you push him harder yesterday? What did you do yesterday? Why does his claim making sense make him blue instead of red? He claimed 48 hours into the day, he absolutely knew that there would be no counter claims. So far, we have had three vigilantes claim, BloodyC0bbler should absolutely know that with this many vigilantes, any vigilante most likely does not have two shots and so they have no reasons not to tell town about their shots as soon as possible. Why does this claim make him blue instead of red? Considering this and how close he was to getting lynched yesterday, a claim like that doesn't seem very risky for a scum at all. Given the mass amount of talking about "breadcrumbing his shot" etc..... that was done and his shot offing himself it actually made more sense to hold back and see how people would try to spin it. You can jump up and down and scream at me, but aside from trying to get my lynched you have done near nothing. Now, I know I have done fuck all this game aside from shoot GM, but both you and RoL have been jumping on my nuts like a fat kid on cake. Why? You have my level of inactivity as your main factor and very few posts I have made that although may not seem the "typical bc" are no real reason to push as hard as you are. What is the real reason you want me to get lynched? There have been people far more active who have given far more to analyze yet you opted for someone who is obviously not active for various reasons. Were you hoping I wouldn't be around or that people would just agree and do it? I made a claim late into a day as it gives more information in general to the thread as people instantly wanted to talk about why rol was still alive, who gm shot, etc.... instead you now know where it is and can see any excuses people were making to see where it wandered off to. | ||
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