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On December 15 2011 18:20 Cwave wrote: As for the second candidate, i say Giygas. Giygas posts sensible and is active, has a brain and will use the power to good use instead of squander it. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + Sole attempt at analysis is on night kills. Complains about other people's analysis being useless: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12775265 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12789217 Comprissent is also adamant about not lynching lurkers: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12714663 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12728076 Which is convenient given his minimal contribution. Unnecessary "I'm town, really" comment on the end there too. For what it's worth, Hassybaby/Bluelightz lurked through the last newbie mini and turned out to be scum. Likes talking about elections, power roles and policy. Defends himself but apparently doesn't like scumhunting. Showed interest in looking into MarserBlood and Nisani/VE's filters three days ago, played LoL instead. Claimed to have his last exam today, so hopefully he'll step up and post some analysis before the lynch. Scum read until then. Cwave: Filter is a bit lightweight, but he's happy to give reads and stick with them. Town read for now. nyczbrandon: On December 16 2011 11:48 nyczbrandon wrote: Doing bare minimum makes me seem like scum? Yes, yes it does. Taking four days to eventually post the first part of an analysis you promised is... well, I'm not even sure how you got away with it. Post more. evantrees: Posts a lot about elections, next to nothing about scum. How did we get to day 3 with people still doing this? Getting a read out of this filter is hopeless. cascades: Not many posts, but relatively juicy ones. This post interested me: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12795425 Just reads as really angry to me. Sure, if you have a strong distaste for veterans playing lazy/arrogant (which would be consistent with the rest of his filter), you'd be facepalming pretty hard at the ProfBA fold, but a mafia lynch is a mafia lynch. Maybe I just can't comprehend the true depths of veteran-hate. | ||
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On December 21 2011 01:26 GreYMisT wrote: Like I said if you insist I will claim in full, but please understand that what I am obscuring is only good for town, and that it hampers my ability to act in an elected position. Notice I did not run in any election as I normally do. Is that still an issue for the current election? Should we be voting for you or not? | ||
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During night 1, you claim that Curu is the scummiest of the veterans/hydras and explain the logic behind lynching him. Then on day 2, you defend him strongly on the basis that lynching him will harm town atmosphere, while still claiming that he's almost certainly scum. The evidence of this game and the one you linked suggests that he harms town atmosphere a lot more when alive than dead. Then on night 2, you're back to explaining exactly why it was a logical lynch. Really? | ||
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@Deus: I don't think I'll ever be happy with your explanation but your list looks solid so let's roll with it for the moment. Electing you as police chief rather than prankster is zero-risk anyway. Hoping that the secretary of defence power really is a nuke. | ||
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On December 21 2011 07:06 MrZentor wrote: Guys, I really don't understand why we're electing Deus as watcher. We don't know he's town, and our entire plan rests on the fact that the watcher is town. If the Watcher isn't town, we get several townies, including Radfield, killed, and allow mafia to have a good chance of winning. Nah, that'd make no sense given that most people have a town read on him. What mafia really need is one player to survive through several days. Killing Radfield a night early by throwing away a well-positioned player and crippling their KP doesn't sound smart to me. | ||
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On December 21 2011 21:10 cascades wrote: @Deus, of all people you should understand the logic of watching Radfield and you know what would happen if Radfield dies. If he's scum, he names a mafia and rides the very slow bus to victory. If he's town and wasn't watching, he names you and hopes. If he's as confident in his scumread as he looks, it's probably a more pro-town option than casting suspicion on himself. Anyway, I should do something more useful than WIFOMing stuff that probably won't even happen. Got a lot to re-read now that Comprissent and nyczbrandon flipped town, and I need to check out Sheth and Refallen's filters. | ||
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 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12843557 | ||
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Deus is just my favourite conspiracy theory. | ||
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On December 22 2011 20:26 risk.nuke wrote: What do you people read in from the day three vote? I had an uncounted vote on Comprissent btw. I don't think there was a whole lot to choose between the candidates on merit so there's a limited amount of information from the vote: 1. If Cwave was scum and Cascades is scum, Cwave should have switched his vote to Comprissent as it was close. On the other hand, Cwave doesn't post anywhere near the end of the day, so he may have missed the swing. 2. Sheth voting for nycz makes Cascades look a bit cleaner, but Sheth had a regular presence near the deadline so he may have just been hoping not to need a late switch, or expecting Cascades to switch to save himself. 3. Zentor gets a small red mark for switching late between two players that flipped town. However, this secret election seems to account for the last scum power, which puts Zentor absolutely in the clear. 4. Zeks also switched from nycz to Comprissent. I suppose he could have been defending Cascades just to keep 2 KP overnight before his awesome vig-shot bus, but in our current situation that's not worth worrying about for a while, and it's meaningless unless Cascades flips red. I haven't checked up on who failed to give reasoning for their vote yet. | ||
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5. Refallen with a suspiciously late/low-reasoning vote on Comprissent. | ||
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Looks like even Radfield is taking his own towncred for granted today, although it wouldn't surprise me if his botched medic claim is fictional. Zentor seems like a good choice for election now that he's 100% confirmed, except that he's dangerously close to a modkill, so unless he shows up soon I don't see better candidates than Radfield/Zeks. I have a pretty strong town read on risk.nuke but I suspect too many people disagree. | ||
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On December 23 2011 00:02 zeks wrote: You are still not sure about me when I shot Sheth? Seriously. If I were scum that would be the stupidest fucking move in the world. I would've just decreased kp from 2 to 1. Unless scum were pretty sure that one of them was going to get lynched the next day. In fact the scum are in such a terrible situation they might as well concede this game right now. Unless they have a near-confirmed townie on their side. Which doesn't help your case. It's a very long shot though. Fundamentally you look town, you smell town, your vig shot made perfect sense as town given that you'd been on Sheth's case all game, and Sheth flipped mafia roleblocker. Until we're down to four players with equivalent credentials, it makes no sense to worry about you. | ||
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"Additionally, the police chief role's watcher ability applies to all day and night actions during the cycle." http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12828580 Not sure how that works in different overlap cases though, given that the roleblock could have started before the watcher ability kicked in. If no-one claims roleblock then I guess we can greentext the question. | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12828615 So Radfield wasn't roleblocked during night 3, assuming that Deus is telling the truth (and I can't see why he wouldn't). | ||
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