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Jackal58
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Jackal58
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Jackal58
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On December 04 2011 03:08 Risen wrote: In this game is popcorn posting allowed post-death? Seems like a prudent question to ask. Also, since the other student game is so small, may I sign up for this one as well? Thank you  | ||
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Jackal58
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On December 04 2011 08:26 Palmar wrote: bugs, force incog to make me a neutral compulsive dumbass vigilante with no win condition I can shoot people when they derp, that's it. I don't have a win condition, I exist only to punish dumbassery. | ||
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Jackal58
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Random lynch on day 1 seems counterproductive to me. On day anything really. What would you perceive as a benefit to doing that Palmar? Posting lists right out of the box about players who are likely on the scum team due to the hosts balancing reminds me a bit of Zodiac lists that have been posted in previous games. More often than not those lists were posted by scum. At least in the games I've seen them used in. You scum Palmar? The only way to 100% establish your innocence is to die. | ||
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Jackal58
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It is a list that basically ranks players in a game. Using those rankings you determine who the scum team is by who is getting night killed. Strong players on the list should be dead by day 3 or so. If they're not they're scum. What it really is is a pile of day 1 wifom that scum can use to push lynches with later in the game. The games I have played in when a Zodiac list was presented, that list was proposed by scum 3 out of 4 times. So I have a developed a bit of a suspicious nature towards anybody that puts forth a "likely scum list" on day 1. | ||
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Jackal58
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On December 05 2011 05:59 syllogism wrote: I noticed Jackal's tone as well, which in addition to what you said doesn't fit his typical tendency to just tunnel palmar. I don't tunnel Palmar. I blow the mother fucker up. I'm waiting for him to answer my question regarding an rng vote and why he thinks that would be advantageous on day 1. If I don't like his answer I'll probably vote for him. I'm not as concerned with his list now that I saw he was responding to a question you asked of him. But the rng angle is almost like pushing for a no lynch. It just seems like a scum agenda. And sorry if my absence bothered some of you but I was watching the Steelers rape the Bungles. And now I'm going to go see if the Browns can some how embarrass the Ravens. | ||
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Jackal58
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On December 05 2011 08:58 Radfield wrote: Do you know what I was just thinking? I was looking at my notes and saying, hey, Erandorr said he would be gone for 6 hours and it's been almost 8. I just jotted down a nice note saying you were looking scummy if you didn't post tonight  I have many thoughts at this point, but none of them are near concrete enough to be airing into the thread. There are still a half dozen players yet to post, and another half dozen who need to post more. There are several players who I am waiting and watching for them to post more on their own, without being called out. Jackal was the one I wanted to talk about, but very few players have touched on his post, and he has not weighed in either. I think so far we are doing decent, but we need more activity to call this a successful Day 1. I did. I think you missed it. To be fair I responded to Syllo who responded to you but it's still there. I'll be on for a little less than an hour before I go to bed. What exactly did you have an issue with in my original post? I don't like lists. I don't like people that post lists. And Palmar's rng lynch suggestion was just weird. On December 05 2011 06:33 Jackal58 wrote: I don't tunnel Palmar. I blow the mother fucker up. I'm waiting for him to answer my question regarding an rng vote and why he thinks that would be advantageous on day 1. If I don't like his answer I'll probably vote for him. I'm not as concerned with his list now that I saw he was responding to a question you asked of him. But the rng angle is almost like pushing for a no lynch. It just seems like a scum agenda. And sorry if my absence bothered some of you but I was watching the Steelers rape the Bungles. And now I'm going to go see if the Browns can some how embarrass the Ravens. Post made in response to you and Syllo earlier. | ||
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Jackal58
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On December 05 2011 11:37 redFF wrote: prplz what do you think of the palmar case? What do you think of your Palmar case? His list was a response to Syllo. I missed that when I reacted to it. Does that change anything for you? | ||
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Jackal58
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On December 05 2011 12:10 Lanaia wrote: Agh, I'm not sure how to feel anymore, yet the game is young so I am okay with that. I know that I really don't like this post at all. I know other people have mentioned it, but it's really bothering me. Radfield, do you even think prplhz is scum? If so, why? If not, why are you still voting him? He's scum? | ||
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Jackal58
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On December 06 2011 04:06 Radfield wrote: Yes, lets get started. These are the players I am willing to lynch today: 1. supersoft 7. hyshes 6. Erandorr 9. Drazerk 10. Jackal58 16. kingjames01 19. Lanaia 20. Risen 24. Hier Now I realize I'm doing what I said to not do: Posting a big list of people who scum can cherry pick from. However at this point I'm willing to let scum take from this list if they want to. If anyone thinks anyone else should be on this list, i'm happy to discuss why they are not. Jackal seems to be only posting in response to players. I don't have a good read on Jackal though, so as I said, I'm not going to push it on my own. I'm at work. Pardon me. I responded to you twice last night and you ignored both of them. You called me out (kinda) on my first post in the game. I'm still not sure why since you basically regurgitated my first post for the next several posts you made. And then decided my first post looked "off". You have ignored me twice. You have ignored most others just to go on and ask for others opinions with out trying to turn their answers into a discussion. You just ask another inane question of somebody else. You call rng voting dumb and then do it yourself. You call lists dumb and then do it yourself. It's not until this post I quoted that you have actually posted anything worthwhile. Filter him. He says a lot without saying a damn thing. And when he does finally commit to something he lists a third of the players in the game. Dude you're scum. Palmar played the same way in PYPII as he is now. He was town then. I suspect he's town now. Only difference is I can't blow him up this game. I suspect vaderseven is also town. The way Palmar forced him to shoot is the same reason I blew up Palmar in PYPII. Apparently Palmar doesn't learn. Radfield has my vote. Of everybody to this point in the game he is the only one I see as definite scum. ##Vote: Radfield. | ||
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Jackal58
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On December 06 2011 06:39 redFF wrote: GODDAMN THIS PALMAR WAGON IS BAD On December 06 2011 06:41 redFF wrote: this is day 1, we need a lynch of some sort. ??????????????? | ||
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Jackal58
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On December 06 2011 06:45 Palmar wrote: gonna take a shower and cool off a bit. Holy shit this stupidity is making me mad. To be fair it's self inflicted man. | ||
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Jackal58
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I have a history of seeing Palmar as scum. Seems like most games if I'm not busy calling him scum he's busy calling me scum. But his ploy with you today he pulled on me just a couple games ago. However instead of killing some random person I blew him up. So ya I've seen him do this exact same thing before as town. So it is hard for me to call him scum. On December 06 2011 08:40 Palmar wrote: Someone is going to notice this sooner or later, so I might as well claim it anyway. I have an extra vote, (the role name is floridian) that means the anonymous vote that will show up on the voting chart is mine. I don't see any reason as for why I should not claim this role, as an anonymous vote will probably confuse people more than it helps to keep it concealed. Of course that was until he told us he has a vote rigging role. That's a scum role. Palmar,why does a townie have a scum role? | ||
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Jackal58
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On December 06 2011 09:16 vaderseven wrote: Jackal, can I get a link to that game and what day did that go down on? Ya I'll find it. But most of what you would be looking for is not in the thread. It was a PM game. | ||
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Jackal58
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On December 06 2011 09:27 vaderseven wrote: Nevermind not interested then. Tough shit. I went looking for it here it is. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=269956 Day 1. | ||
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Jackal58
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On December 06 2011 10:02 syllogism wrote: No, v7 had the opportunity to be open and comply with our request, which he eventually did. Role claiming was completely unnecessary, dumb and shooting like that without discussing it was awful. Scum slip? | ||
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Jackal58
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On December 06 2011 10:21 syllogism wrote: Me and palmar were asking him to post his notes. You know, in the thread. Do you even follow the game? Yes I do. Your posts during that exchange: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12601974 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12603098 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12603194 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12603204 You didn't make much of a request to comply with. You asked if he was going to post his notes. That's why the "our" stood out to me. | ||
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Jackal58
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On December 06 2011 10:25 Radfield wrote: Erandorr, I appreciate you building a case(Jackal too), and I think both you and Jackal have some decent criticism of my Day 1 play. I've been doing a lot of asking questions, and not a lot of follow up. That being said, I stand by every post I have made this game. My goal has been to get things moving and I think i've actually done a decent job at that, in addition to moving the thread down productive avenues. Some points: * I'm not a strong Day 1 scumhunter. In fact pretty much the only time I build big day 1 cases are when I'm mafia. Other than that I built a Day 1 case on Barundar in PYPI, and was wrong. * As town I almost always have a lot of town reads, and only a few scum reads(generally do the opposite when scum) * When I quote things, I routinely remove parts of the quote that are not directly related to the point I'm making.Read any past case I have built * I have only ever been right on Day 1 once (Jackal in Merc Mini 2)The real question is: Do you agree with what I am doing right now? Consolidating a lynch on Hier, and trying to avoid a Palmar lynch? I am totally torn on Palmar. The only game I really believed him to be town (Except when we were Romeo and Juliet together) he was scum. That was the game Ace ran. I don't remember the name of it. All I remember is I made an ass out of myself trusting Palmar and cost town the game. That said I have been on the receiving end of his bullying when he was town. That's the Palmar I see this game to this point. But then he posted his role. That is a scum role. Don't care what you say Syllo. So ya I don't know what to make of Palmar at this point. I think I'd rather see him alive than dead at the end of the day. My problem with agreeing with you at this point is I really do think you're scum Rad. It's not a question of whether or not you're any good at finding scum on day 1. It's the way you've acted throughout the day. God knows I suck at finding scum day 1 too. But I haven't been all over the board like you have. I'll need to think about moving my vote to Heir. I'd much rather everybody voted for you but I don't see that happening at this point. | ||
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Jackal58
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On December 06 2011 10:53 Lanaia wrote: It was in my last post, Risen. Palmar was acting like he did last game before he got lynched and that I felt he was town. Or do you mean why I switched to Hier? To avoid a Palmar lynch, he was the best target. People were consolidating onto him and from what I've seen in the past, Palmar can be a hell of a lot more helpful than Hier. Last game you knew Palmar was town because you were scum. Same situation? | ||
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