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Zenio leaves team oGs

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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42417 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-28 20:50:42
October 28 2011 11:06 GMT
#1
According to Korean e-sport site ESChosun.com (Z)Zenio has left the oGs team.

I asked community member Clefairy for a summary of the article and it seems that oGs doesn't allow players to practice outside of the team house without a good reason, so Zenio is now looking for a team that doesn't require to stay in the house.

Nada is allowed to practice outside because of his studies, but Zenio doesn't have a good enough reason to practice outside the team house.



If someone can translate the full article or if there is some false info/more to add, feel free to share it and i'll edit them to the OP.

Source(In Korean) You need a Korean IP/Proxy to access the site apparently.

Thanks to Clefairy for the summary! News tweet by ESChosun reporter, Siwoo 'zelgadiss' Lee

Rough translation by flyingcows:

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변현우(프라임)와의 명경기를 통해 팬들의 사랑을 받는 스타크래프트2 저그 선수 '제니오' 최정민이 28일부로 정든 팀 oGs를 떠난다.

The player oGs Zenio who attained fans through games with Byun Prime is leaving oGs on the 28th.


oGs 박상익 감독은 최정민의 탈퇴에 대해 "최정민 선수가 오랜 시간 숙소생활을 하면서 '합숙'이라는 시스템을 신경써 온 것 같다"며 "함께 해결방안을 모색했지만 팀 규정상 외부 연습, 혹은 자택 연습을 하는 경우를 특별한 사유 없이는 허용할 수 없어 부득이하게 최 선수와 결별하게 됐다"고 밝혔다.

Coach park (oGs TheWind) on zenio's leave:
"Zenio has been thinking about dorm life for a long time" and "we have looked for a solution, but the team regulations require a special case to be allowed to train outside the house. Therefore we have parted ways with Zenio.

(not sure how to make that sound less negative... in korean its not negative at all)

박 감독은 또 "이윤열 선수는 대학교에서 학업을 병행하기 때문에 휴학한 상태에서도 공부를 손에서 놓을 수 없는 상황이라 외부 생활을 하고 있다. 최정민 선수와는 경우가 조금 다르기에 팬들의 넓은 이해를 바라며, 최 선수가 향후 좋은 성적을 거두기를 응원하겠다"고도 덧붙였다.

coach park on oGsNada
"Nada is allowed because he cannot stop studying even if he has taken a break from school, but zenio's case is a little different."
coach park also wishes that fans will understand and that he will root for zenio even after he has left the team

따라서 오는 11월 21일 '글로벌 스타크래프트2 리그(GSL)' 2011 시즌7(Nov) 코드A 48강 마지막날 출전이 확정된 최정민은 해당 경기부터 oGs 유니폼을 입지 않는다.

therefore, today (november 21st) zenio will not wear the oGs uniform on the Code A stage

한편 최정민이 새로 둥지를 틀 게임단은 아직 정해지지 않았으며 '숙소 생활이 필수가 아닌 팀'으로의 이적을 우선 고려할 것으로 보인다.

on the other hand, zenio has not yet chosen a team to join, but he will look for a team where dorm life is not required.
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wattabeast
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States957 Posts
October 28 2011 11:07 GMT
#2
Interesting as Zenio is a good player, surprises to see him taking a step back from the scene, as this suggests.
:O
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 28 2011 11:09 GMT
#3
Didn't he drop out Code S last season? For 12 months he is allowed to train outside the teamhouse? But when he drops to Code A he gets kicked?

I had a good night of sleep.
Onox
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1072 Posts
October 28 2011 11:09 GMT
#4
I guess he loses his jacket then?
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
October 28 2011 11:10 GMT
#5
On October 28 2011 20:09 Koshi wrote:
Didn't he drop out Code S last season? For 12 months he is allowed to train outside the teamhouse? But when he drops to Code A he gets kicked?


Uhh, I'm guessing he just now wants to train outside the team house...
AXygnus
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Portugal1008 Posts
October 28 2011 11:11 GMT
#6
Zenio to EG.

Would be funny with Huk and Idra >_>
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42417 Posts
October 28 2011 11:11 GMT
#7
On October 28 2011 20:09 Koshi wrote:
Didn't he drop out Code S last season? For 12 months he is allowed to train outside the teamhouse? But when he drops to Code A he gets kicked?



According to the summary i got, he didn't get kicked - he chose to leave because he wants to practice outside of the team house, but that is not allowed without a proper reason.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
MuATaran
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada231 Posts
October 28 2011 11:11 GMT
#8
That is sad but I can understand that he doesnt want to stay in the house, as far as I know it is the same kind of thing as the other pro houses and I would feal really uncomfortable living witht hat many people in such a small place. Hopefully he finds a team soon
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Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
October 28 2011 11:13 GMT
#9
most team wouldn't let u train outside of the house unless u are the superstar of the team which unfortunately Zenio is not

Sad but all the best to Zenio. Won't be long till he lands another team
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
October 28 2011 11:13 GMT
#10
Nestea and MVP dont stay in IM house and they are doing great, but each team is different I guess.
tomwizz
Profile Joined October 2010
524 Posts
October 28 2011 11:14 GMT
#11
On October 28 2011 20:09 Onox wrote:
I guess he loses his jacket then?

poor zenio
at least he (use to) have a nice jacket.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
October 28 2011 11:18 GMT
#12
Well, gl to him then. Perhaps no better time to change teams, as he really needs some changes to hopefully affect his play positively too.
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Replice
Profile Joined February 2011
Norway93 Posts
October 28 2011 11:18 GMT
#13
On October 28 2011 20:13 Drey wrote:
Nestea and MVP dont stay in IM house and they are doing great, but each team is different I guess.


They dont sleep there but they do come in to the house to actually practice. not all the time but non the less.
Zenio wants to stay home all the time and practice from there.
tabbott26
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom379 Posts
October 28 2011 11:18 GMT
#14
Tbh I'm not horribly surprised. Good luck though to Zenio in his Code A matches this season.

I could see him heading to NsHS or TSL.
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pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
October 28 2011 11:22 GMT
#15
I'm surprised.

I suppose they tolerated it as long as zenio was in code s but now that he is in code a they want him to practice more.

He is a very good player, shouldn't take him to long to find a new team.
Cuiu
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany410 Posts
October 28 2011 11:28 GMT
#16
to bad gl to him.
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
October 28 2011 11:28 GMT
#17
I think he'll find a team in no time.
Akhee
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil811 Posts
October 28 2011 11:29 GMT
#18
On October 28 2011 20:18 tabbott26 wrote:
Tbh I'm not horribly surprised. Good luck though to Zenio in his Code A matches this season.

I could see him heading to NsHS or TSL.


TSL? its the most hardcore team ever, coach lee would rape his zerg butt 3 times a day if he doesnt practice 12 hours
NaldoR
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore2198 Posts
October 28 2011 11:29 GMT
#19
most of the players which stay out are either code S or have lax teams.
He could go to ST, i think rainbow stays out
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
October 28 2011 11:33 GMT
#20
On October 28 2011 20:29 Akhee wrote:
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On October 28 2011 20:18 tabbott26 wrote:
Tbh I'm not horribly surprised. Good luck though to Zenio in his Code A matches this season.

I could see him heading to NsHS or TSL.


TSL? its the most hardcore team ever, coach lee would rape his zerg butt 3 times a day if he doesnt practice 12 hours


Polt lives outside the TSL house, I believe.

Zenio is a great zerg. He had an awful Code S and Up-and-Down, but he still has great talent. I can see him going to any team. I can't think of a team that doesn't have a player living outside the team house.
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