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SeRenExZerg
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States401 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 05:07:52
October 02 2011 04:23 GMT
#1
Ok, so a few people in the live report thread already know about this, but we just witnessed a game between Strelok and TSL's Revival on a rigged version of shakuras plateau, where marines had range seven and were dealing double damage. a regame has already been called, but this actually brings up a much much bigger issue:

does IEM need to check ALL the games that have been played thus far to ensure all the victories were fair? My sentiment is ABSOLUTELY. they have been hosting all the games on the chinese client, and if there have been any discrepancies that would be a pretty big problem.

if a mod could add a poll (sorry, im a bit noob at this) just asking whether or not TL thinks this is necessary hopefully the IEM organizers will get a look at it.



EDIT:

could a mod please change the title to something a little less......controversial i guess? apparently it is too strongly worded for the purpose i intended- in no way do i mean to make any harsh accusations, i merely wanted to inform/discuss.


EDIT 2: Mr. Bitter and Rotterdam just confirmed on their stream that it was a concentrated incident, apparently only the second game between strelok and revival was a problem. Feel free to close this thread, change it, whatever. the issue has been taken care of :D
One thing about deer: They have good vision. One thing about me: I am better at hiding than they are at vision.
FluXen
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada210 Posts
October 02 2011 04:25 GMT
#2
This seems to be a pretty big issue, I feel as if someone is going to make it far in the tournament who isn't meant to be there because of these map issues
"Rise and Rise Again till Lamb become Lion"-Robin Hood
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 04:28:20
October 02 2011 04:26 GMT
#3
Useless thread. Go check yourself if you're really that worried: http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season6/guangzhou/sc2/groupstage/results

They will obviously check the replays ...

Also what's with that title? It was only ONE game and only ONE map. Not games and maps ... learn to write properly before creating threads.

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cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
October 02 2011 04:26 GMT
#4
lol are you serious? Double damage marines?
eleaf
Profile Joined September 2011
526 Posts
October 02 2011 04:26 GMT
#5
They release all the replays. So, you can always check.

This is actually the good thing why tournament should release their replays.
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
October 02 2011 04:28 GMT
#6
Marine Range Upgrade is back!
phildp
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia140 Posts
October 02 2011 04:30 GMT
#7
7 range and double damage on marines?!? Good thing the max supply was shown to be greater than 200 otherwise these other things may not have been noticed as easily
SeRenExZerg
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States401 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 04:35:00
October 02 2011 04:30 GMT
#8
On October 02 2011 13:26 cyclone25 wrote:
Useless thread. Go check yourself if you're really that worried: http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season6/guangzhou/sc2/groupstage/results

They will obviously check the replays ...

Also what's with that title? It was only ONE game and only ONE map. Not games and maps ... learn to write properly before creating threads.


apparently you didn't read the OP at all....

the issue is we dont KNOW FOR SURE if it was only 1 game and 1 map. that is the WHOLE reason the thread is titled as such.

learn to read before posting hostile replies.

EDIT: i guess if the admins/mods see it fitting, add a -? to the end of the OP. i am not accusing all maps of being rigged but merely raising the question that they may or may not be.
One thing about deer: They have good vision. One thing about me: I am better at hiding than they are at vision.
Zhang
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States129 Posts
October 02 2011 04:30 GMT
#9
From what I heard, Strelok hosted this game while all the other games were hosted by the tourney refs.

Still warrants checking reps though.
Delinius
Profile Joined March 2011
United States324 Posts
October 02 2011 04:33 GMT
#10
Strelok shouldn't be picking the maps if he can't read the language.
crawlingchaos
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2025 Posts
October 02 2011 04:34 GMT
#11
Replays should be checked regardless, but this was likely just a mistake due to the language barrier. I'm not sure why Strelok was hosting the map though, since I went to get food and missed this spectacle.
They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you've gotta ride it well, the world is full of kings and queens who blind your eyes and steal your dreams, it's heaven and hell, oh well.
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6644 Posts
October 02 2011 04:35 GMT
#12
On October 02 2011 13:30 SeRenExZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 13:26 cyclone25 wrote:
Useless thread. Go check yourself if you're really that worried: http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season6/guangzhou/sc2/groupstage/results

They will obviously check the replays ...

Also what's with that title? It was only ONE game and only ONE map. Not games and maps ... learn to write properly before creating threads.


apparently you didn't read the OP at all....

the issue is we dont KNOW FOR SURE if it was only 1 game and 1 map. that is the WHOLE reason the thread is titled as such.

learn to read before posting hostile replies.


Apparently you didn't read his post at all.... Though he probably didn't need to be hostile. If you look at the link he posted its to download ALL of the replays from the games so you can even check for yourself if they played on rigged maps or not....
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
October 02 2011 04:36 GMT
#13
On October 02 2011 13:30 SeRenExZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 13:26 cyclone25 wrote:
Useless thread. Go check yourself if you're really that worried: http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season6/guangzhou/sc2/groupstage/results

They will obviously check the replays ...

Also what's with that title? It was only ONE game and only ONE map. Not games and maps ... learn to write properly before creating threads.


apparently you didn't read the OP at all....

the issue is we dont KNOW FOR SURE if it was only 1 game and 1 map. that is the WHOLE reason the thread is titled as such.

learn to read before posting hostile replies.


You try to make it worse than it is to get more attention. How about you go check all the replays and then make the thread? Do you think the IEM admins need this thread in order to check the replays?
It was said by many that Strelok hosted this map and not the IEM admins (who hosted the other maps), so it's almost sure that the other games are fine.

Some mod needs to close this thread ...
SeRenExZerg
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States401 Posts
October 02 2011 04:37 GMT
#14
On October 02 2011 13:35 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 13:30 SeRenExZerg wrote:
On October 02 2011 13:26 cyclone25 wrote:
Useless thread. Go check yourself if you're really that worried: http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season6/guangzhou/sc2/groupstage/results

They will obviously check the replays ...

Also what's with that title? It was only ONE game and only ONE map. Not games and maps ... learn to write properly before creating threads.


apparently you didn't read the OP at all....

the issue is we dont KNOW FOR SURE if it was only 1 game and 1 map. that is the WHOLE reason the thread is titled as such.

learn to read before posting hostile replies.


Apparently you didn't read his post at all.... Though he probably didn't need to be hostile. If you look at the link he posted its to download ALL of the replays from the games so you can even check for yourself if they played on rigged maps or not....


yes, i see that, but at the time that viewers see any discrepancy the tournament is over. what then? the tournament organizers need their referees to check them NOW. counting on "releasing the replays to the public" for them to verify is NOT the same.
One thing about deer: They have good vision. One thing about me: I am better at hiding than they are at vision.
Oreo7
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1647 Posts
October 02 2011 04:40 GMT
#15
paranoia is in bloom in this thread
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Yamulo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2096 Posts
October 02 2011 04:40 GMT
#16
Wow... I wonder if any other games were messed up T_T. I just thought it was the supply thing and did not know about double dmg 7 range marines....
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acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 04:41:46
October 02 2011 04:41 GMT
#17
On October 02 2011 13:40 Zooper31 wrote:
Well all the replays IEM has submitted from Day1 are completely mis-labeled. Wrong races and wrong maps for all the replays I've tried to view. Guess I'm not gonna see if other maps are rigged too.


From the other thread. This is concerning.
eleaf
Profile Joined September 2011
526 Posts
October 02 2011 04:42 GMT
#18
The problem is all the maps are in Chinese character. Foreign hosts/players cant read it ... they just simply choose the top one, unfortunately, the map is some one made for fun ...
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6644 Posts
October 02 2011 04:43 GMT
#19
On October 02 2011 13:37 SeRenExZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 13:35 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On October 02 2011 13:30 SeRenExZerg wrote:
On October 02 2011 13:26 cyclone25 wrote:
Useless thread. Go check yourself if you're really that worried: http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season6/guangzhou/sc2/groupstage/results

They will obviously check the replays ...

Also what's with that title? It was only ONE game and only ONE map. Not games and maps ... learn to write properly before creating threads.


apparently you didn't read the OP at all....

the issue is we dont KNOW FOR SURE if it was only 1 game and 1 map. that is the WHOLE reason the thread is titled as such.

learn to read before posting hostile replies.


Apparently you didn't read his post at all.... Though he probably didn't need to be hostile. If you look at the link he posted its to download ALL of the replays from the games so you can even check for yourself if they played on rigged maps or not....


yes, i see that, but at the time that viewers see any discrepancy the tournament is over. what then? the tournament organizers need their referees to check them NOW. counting on "releasing the replays to the public" for them to verify is NOT the same.

Well my bad, I thought they were releasing them right away for some reason(Foolish to think they could be that awesome I know.) And apparently people are saying day 1's replays are all mislabelled etc. So thats not good. And I would assume the refs are checking them right now, would be stupid if they didn't I was merely saying you can(Eventually) check them yourself too.
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
Lunas
Profile Joined September 2011
253 Posts
October 02 2011 04:44 GMT
#20
Talk about a Drama queen

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