Lord of the Rings Mafia

Step 3, avoid lynching an easy target. This is a player with a few bad posts, or some flip floppy votes, or a badly phrased 'scum slip'. Easy targets give scum great excuses to get on a bandwagon. Instead we're going to lynch someone who is fairly active, but not saying anything worthwhile. With 5 posts per cycle it means we're going to have something to go on, however likely not till the later half of Day 1. Which leads to:

On September 17 2011 10:29 chaoser wrote:
OriginalName, what do you "sorta see" about greymist?

On September 17 2011 10:58 GreYMisT wrote:


Navillus I think the following list is correct in terms of most resistant to the ring's corruption to the least resistant.
Hobbits
Wizards
Elves
Dwarves
Men

I think a townie should never give the ring away unless specific mechanics of the ring make it detrimental to hold on to (corruption possibly). Anyways to get more discussion going what do you guys think about lynching a lurker day 1 in the absence of a better target? Maybe its just me but whenever this happens it always ends badly for the town. Don't seem to get much info from them because they were lurking from the get go anyways. Thoughts on the lynch lurkers policy guys?

On September 18 2011 02:33 Drazerk wrote:
since I forgot to do it before I left

##unvote:
##vote: wherebugsgo

On September 18 2011 02:14 Drazerk wrote:
Posting restrictions are definitely in place.

As for me jumping on the gray bandwagon I actually pointed out the ring rubbish before Choaser but I am currently leaning on WBG being the more likely scum member now.

Ill be gone for the next couple of hours so sorry about any sort of inactivity.

Furthermore, your reasoning for attacking Drazerk is a little troubling. So... if I understand correctly, DrH and Drazerk do the exact same thing, but one is a vet townie and one is scummy? Based purely on how you good you think they are? You also provide additional justification in saying he attacked you. He never attacked you, he called you out for claiming VT. I can believe you made a mistake, but your reactions so far to being challenged is one that I find highly suspicious.

On September 18 2011 03:41 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
kita missed me! <3

I've read quickly through the thread, and will probably go back and read through some of it again later.

Couple of things:

I see a lot of people assuming that the forces of evil will have no ability to transfer the ring. Personally, I think this is a silly assumption to make. There are at least two characters I can think of off the top of my head who flavour-wise would be able to transfer the ring: Lurtz and the Ringwraiths. Both were sent out by Saruman and Sauron respectively to retrieve the ring for their masters, so it makes sense that they can take the ring, and then transfer it. The best thing, would be to assume that some scum players can transfer the ring, and some can't, just like town. To assume that your opponents don't at least have the same potential powers as you seems arrogant and unsafe. (As shown by some of the possible plans revolving around the ring)

I'm a little out of it right now, so if I say anything weird or blatantly incorrect when talking about players, feel free to point it out. I know I did this reading through the thread, where in my head, I'd think someone was scummy-scum, but really I just forgot half of what they wrote or mixed them up with someone, or something equally silly.

Right now, I think it's safe to say that WBG is either Smeagol/Gollum or just trolling. He should be pressured for his thoughts, and if he's not forth-coming, should be ignored or vigilante-shot. Responding to him and encouraging him by giving him attention just detract from the thread by filling it with spam.

Also, on the topic of Gollum, I think that he's very likely third party. He'll probably work like an SK, able to make one kill a night, and wins when he kills the ring-bearer and receives the ring, removing himself and it from the game. This is what makes the most sense for me.

As well, if there's the potential for a role that could just steal the ring, who could that be (Besides maybe Gollum)? I haven't read the books since ~10 years ago, and haven't watched the movies for a while, either. One person who it could make sense for, is Boromir, however, as I remember him wanting to steal the ring. I'm just asking this, because people are worried about killing a possible Gollum because they think he's the only one who can steal the ring. (And like he'd work for us, either :p)

Right now, I don't like Drazerk's vote on WBG, because like I said, he's either trolling, or he's third-party with a posting restriction. So, that makes him a weak lynch target, and unless he starts contributing, a good vig target. Remember mafia can troll too, just look at Cosmic Horror.

I think heist actually makes a good point about navillus. There's a difference between making a vote for pressure, and making a vote for someone acting scummy. What he did, is say he made a vote for a specific reason, and later retracts it and says it's for pressure.

Last thing, there's been a lot of this:

On September 18 2011 03:13 Derpsky wrote:
Guys, stop talking/speculating about roles/set-up, it's spammy and non-contributory!

*Proceeds to speculate about roles and set-up*

Stop it >.<

On September 18 2011 10:21 Navillus wrote:
Supersoft I am Elladan, Elven Prince, Vanilla Townie Extraordinaire (I added extraordinaire... I'm sure some people would try to make that out as a scum slip somehow)

On September 17 2011 10:23 Navillus wrote:
God @#$% it I have now rolled VT in literally every &*!@ing game that had it that I have played in >:[ anyways if Drazerk gets to vote people with little to no justification then I do too

##Vote Drazerk

Wait does anyone think that he was seriously trying to get the ring?? I thought it was quite clear that his original post was a joke, not just the content he makes it look joking, it really is a null tell and doesn't matter if he contradicts it, cause you know, it was a joke...

On September 18 2011 02:11 Navillus wrote:


6th game != learned anything in 1-5, esp. cause I died really quickly in some and wasn't paying that much attention to most of them so I couldn't really learn. Also you're either lying about looking through my games, or just didn't really try, cause last game I played I opened with basically the same line, a complaint about getting VT yet again (I think it was cosmic horror, if not it was 2 games ago in werewolves but I'm pretty sure it was cosmic horror.)

As to my thoughts, I'm even more skeptical on Drazerk, I had figured that that first vote was pressure, and from what I know Dr. H is a very good vet player so I figured that's exactly what he was doing when he added his vote on, but Drazerk isn't as good as Dr. H, I could see him being scum and thinking that they could actually get a wagon going, then what made me more suspicious is that he completely ducks my vote and instead attacks me.

On September 18 2011 06:09 Navillus wrote:
I'm extraordinarily thick and incapable of reasoning, so please that silver platter would be excellent.

On September 18 2011 11:02 GreYMisT wrote:


Is everyone ignoring this because this is standard Jee-Jee? or did people honestly miss it?

4. I never said that Drazerk was beneath me, please don't put stupid words in my mouth it actually makes me angry. I compared him to Dr. H, and I also compared their actions which you neglected to mention.

On September 18 2011 12:20 OriginalName wrote:


I meant that Drazerk was beneath DrH, not you.

i also want to tell sandroba and palmar that i have the eru-iluvatar-given ability to instantly kill them at my will if they don't start posting.

On September 19 2011 04:37 prplhz wrote:
@ON

is that the most blatant omgus i have ever seen?

On September 19 2011 06:28 kitaman27 wrote:
Erandorr, I just saw what you edited out and that is 100% not a "wrong thread" edit. That was not a vote, that was a large post including multiple quotes in an attempt to defend yourself. Your first line was "I can see why people think I'm a good target".

##Vote Erandorr

On September 19 2011 06:30 Erandorr wrote:
My brain is not working today at all O.o (SO baaad that I actually did an edit in a mafia game /facepalm )
I guess I will try again: I make a decent lynch target when I filtered myself but I actually still do think that wbg is a good target, because his behaviour has been off. First what I considered trolling then claiming posting restrictions and then going back to posting normally like he didnt have one. And doing all that without giving a clear reason. Thats not weird to you in any way?