On September 13 2011 02:12 Forumite wrote:
Lucidity, dreamflower and wherebugsgo are the only ones I haven´t played a game with (WBG died immediately after joining as a replacement, so he doesn´t count).

Have you played a lot of Mafia?

Who, me?

I've played like 3 games.

wherebugsgo

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September 12 2011 23:44 GMT

#179

wait when does Day 1 start?

wherebugsgo

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September 13 2011 00:59 GMT

#187

o_O

wherebugsgo

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September 13 2011 02:13 GMT

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On September 13 2011 10:58 chaos13 wrote:

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So in other words you think he warrants a check because he has an equally good chance at being mafia as any other random person selected from the player list?

lol this exchange is pretty funny, especially when you put it like that.

Chaos do you think Forumite is mafia?

wherebugsgo

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September 13 2011 02:13 GMT

#201

oh derp ninjaed

wherebugsgo

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September 13 2011 02:17 GMT

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On September 13 2011 10:13 Forumite wrote:

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Personally, I don´t want to lynch lurkers or Jackal. Lynching Jackal for the fun of it is a mistake. Checking the last games, he´s often dead after the second night, mostly after he rolls Town and gets lynched anyway. He could be scum (Like in the CH game

), but I´m not wasting time pushing to lynch him until he´s shown some real scumtells. Jackal does warrant a cop check though, if we have a detective out there.

I think he's talking about this paragraph right here. You're acting really wishy washy on Jackal.

First you say you don't want to lynch lurkers or Jackal, then you say that he could be scum, but that you don't want to lynch him until he's shown some real scumtells.

Then you say he warrants a cop check.

If he hasn't shown any scum tells yet why would he warrant a cop check?

wherebugsgo

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September 13 2011 02:18 GMT

#207

It also looks like a plan to rolefish the DT....

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September 13 2011 02:29 GMT

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On September 13 2011 11:22 Nisani201 wrote:

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I think you're taking this too far.

I disagree, just reread Forumite's post.

He wants a cop to check Jackal before we have any information. That just sounds like bad advice.

On September 13 2011 11:22 Forumite wrote:

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Of course we don´t want him to claim immediately, but he can breadcrumb, or wait a few days and claim when there´s more info. If Jackal´s scum, then we know when the DT claims or dies, and can lynch then. The only way this would not work is if Jackal is Scum AND there is no DT, or if the DT ignore this plan and checks someone else.

Early breadcrumbing is advantageous to mafia.

In XLIV I breadcrumbed and just railed all over mafia for one day before getting shot.

IMO it's just because we don't have the ability to identify power roles as quickly as mafia. They have more information than we do, so they can narrow down the possibilities more quickly. Putting potential targets out there before we have any reasonable discussion is just asking to get set up. I mean, if you're telling DTs to check Jackal, assuming we have a DT, what's stopping a potential framer from just targetting him that night?

It's better for them to decide for themselves who to target rather than tell them how to play their own role. This is my opinion, at least, as IMO it prevents WIFOM situations and false reads.

wherebugsgo

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September 13 2011 02:43 GMT

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yeah tbh I think it's hard for us to find breadcrumbs when we're often more concerned with scumhunting.

I have to agree with you on that, finding breadcrumbs for me is really difficult. I think sometimes people just need to be obvious about things if they're about to die (this is something I learned from my regrets upon dying both in XLIV and in cosmic)