Palmar how is iGrok opening the game with a planned vote on BA impulsive?

The iGrok defense doesn't make sense. All he did was put a vote on the smurf basically stating it is nothing and just a pressure vote. So how exactly is that putting himself out there? Also I don't know why you guys are even defending him in the first place.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

September 08 2011 21:36 GMT

#205

I would be down with lynching palmar/igrok/taa

Palmar starts off with voting chaos for a retarded reason. Follows it up with defending igrok repeatedly with shitty reasoning. When asked his opinion on why igrok is a bad lynch and GGQ is better he responds again defending iGrok and doesn't even mention GGQ.

#Vote Palmar

Mig

United States4714 Posts

September 08 2011 21:48 GMT

#209

What doesn't make sense about what I said concerning palmar?

Palmar's logic behind his vote for chaos and his defense of iGrok is flawed. When asked to give a reason for why he thinks GGQ is scummy he ignores it.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

September 09 2011 00:19 GMT

#230

Palmar you have spent practically all your time this game defending igrok instead of doing any actual scum hunting, which is extremely unlike you. Your initial reason for voting chaos was ridiculous and nonsensical. You said GGQ was a good lynch but once someone asked you why you completely ignored them, probably because you didn't actually have any reason behind it. Now you are voting me based on what exactly? Because I pointed out all the inconsistencies in your play?

Mig

United States4714 Posts

September 09 2011 00:49 GMT

#240

Palmar I really laugh at you saying there is a 5% chance of iGrok flipping scum. Please can you show me anything that makes it so incredibly clear that iGrok is town, other than the retarded idea that because he random voted at the beginning of the game it makes him town.

I am sure most of the town has played several times with palmar's town play in the past. Does palmar ever defend anyone this hard day1 as town? It's completely opposite of palmar's normal play.

And you say I am trying to push policy lynches wtf? You are twisting things to try and make me appear scummy. Me pushing for your lynch because you are playing completely differently than normal and defending someone with horrible reasoning is in no way a policy lynch.

Really the only explanation for palmar's poor logic and his non stop insistence that iGrok is guaranteed town is that palmar is scum.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

September 09 2011 00:53 GMT

#241

Palmar never hard defends someone day1 as town. He knows as town you are working with very little information day1 so your reads are never going to be perfect. His certainty about iGrok's alignment is such a clear giveaway that he is scum.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

September 09 2011 01:04 GMT

#245

I didn't read cosmic horror but you didn't defend anyone day1 in XLIV lol. I certainly haven't ever seen you call someone 95% town day1 after they have made like 6 posts.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

September 09 2011 01:07 GMT

#247

I will switch before deadline if it looks like no one will to palmar. I will probably switch to TAA.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

September 09 2011 02:04 GMT

#254

Wbg are you really comparing him super soft defending sevryn last game compared to him defending iGrok with every post he makes here? And you think iGrok is suspicious yea? So why is palmar so positive that he is town? Doesn't it seem fishy to you that palmar could be so sure when almost everyone else at least has some suspicions of iGrok?

Anyway switching like I said I would

#unvote
#vote TAA

Mig

United States4714 Posts

September 09 2011 03:29 GMT

#287

Vote count has a mistake, I unvoted palmar and voted TAA earlier.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

September 10 2011 03:52 GMT

#317

Zona I am here!

I voted TAA for the same reasons everyone else did. Inconsistent opinions, contradicting himself and his play was far far below what I know he can play as town. Look at his play in WaW2 (scum) and compare it to his town play in RTM. He can be quite good and do a lot of scum hunting but this game he obviously was putting 0 effort in. But looking back on it it was a dumb vote. I should have put more weight into looking at the people who were on his bandwagon. Curu, Sandroba, palmar, iGrok are the 4 people I am most suspicious of and all of them jumped on TAA very quickly.

Curu and palmar both went out of their way to defend iGrok yesterday. Not only did they defend him saying they thought he was town but Curu then began the TAA bandwagon. His play is extremely similar to XLIV where we were both mafia. I was in danger of being lynched early so curu started up counter lynches against weak targets to save me.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

September 10 2011 04:01 GMT

#319

Bum what do you think about curu/sandroba?

Mig

United States4714 Posts

September 10 2011 04:03 GMT

#321

Sandroba's disappearance is very unlike him regardless of alignment. But his sudden shift onto TAA when all his early posts were targeting iGrok is hella fishy.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

September 10 2011 04:08 GMT

#322

Curu/sandroba/iGrok/palmar are the 4 that look by far the worst to me right now.

Looking back at some of sandroba's posts. Early on sandroba complains about the town being inactive but then completely disappears himself. And seriously all of his beginning posts he attacked iGrok but then this is literally his only post even mentioning TAA.

On September 09 2011 07:04 sandroba wrote:
Alright TAA is the best lynch. No bullshit allowed here sir.
##Vote: TheAwesomeAll

Mig

United States4714 Posts

September 10 2011 04:10 GMT

#323

Actually just noticed WBG pointed out the exact same thing last page.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

September 10 2011 04:18 GMT

#327

I believe so yea

Mig

United States4714 Posts

September 10 2011 04:26 GMT

#329

I actually just noticed something hella suspicious concerning sinani.

He posted this in another thread at 13:08. Ace posted that TAA was lynched at 13:04

On September 09 2011 13:08 sinani206 wrote:
You can put me up for co-host of SNMMVI

He then posted this here at 14:26.

On September 09 2011 14:26 sinani206 wrote:
fuck i missed the vote screw homework

So he is blaming homework on missing the vote yet he posted in another thread about mafia at almost the exact same time.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

September 10 2011 04:27 GMT

#330

He also posted this in another mafia thread 4 hours earlier

On September 09 2011 09:44 sinani206 wrote:
btw red how was your role presented?

So sinani was clearly around and clearly reading mafia things. But then doesn't comment on anything going on in the game and blames homework as the reason.