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On September 07 2011 13:04 GGQ wrote: Given that we have 4/16 mafia, I imagine that you're probably right. Oh boy let's rolefish some more. ##vote:ggq | ||
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On September 08 2011 01:12 GGQ wrote: Hm, if you think that's rolefishing, why vote for me and not bum, who brought it up first? why not? | ||
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On September 08 2011 02:33 GGQ wrote: I think it's pretty clear that when someone does something, 'why?' is a far more relevant question than 'why not?' "why?" has one clear, defined answer that helps to clarify your action. "why not?" has infinite hypothetical answers that just obscure it further. So cut the crap. Why? Calm down broski. It's very simple. When reacting to an accusation, townies tend to point out flaws with the accusation, since they know the accusation is wrong. Scum tend to try and shift the blame elsewhere, since they know the accusation is right. if my vote didn't count since it was before Ace's post (although after 13KST), I'll re-write it here again. ##vote:ggq | ||
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On September 08 2011 07:32 GGQ wrote: I'm going to go over all this again, just so it's clear to everyone in this game. 1) bumatlarge speculates before the game starts that everyone has an ability, providing no reasoning 2) I agree and provide some reasoning. I still stand by this post and don't think that it's scummy 3) JeeJee accuses me (or both me and bum? he isnt clear) of rolefishing and votes for me. 4) I did not address his accusation of rolefishing. I think it's silly, because I think it's clear that I wasn't rolefishing and I'm unconcerned by this vote. 5) I ask JeeJee why he chose to vote and accuse me instead of bum, since that seems completely arbitrary to me. I want to know his reasoning; I want him to explain himself so that the town can better judge both me and him. I want things clearly spelled out in the thread. 6) JeeJee responds with "Why not?" I've already explained why this is a terrible answer. It doesn't help with clarifying anything, and it only leads to more confusion and obfuscation, which is distinctly anti-town. 7) JeeJee tells me to "calm down". Nothing in my post indicates that I'm not calm. He is trying to make it seem like I'm getting defensive/emotional when I don't believe that my post indicates anything like that; it's just cold reasoning. 8) JeeJee then says "It's very simple. etc" as though he's responding to my question of "Why?" He then gives his explanation that townies point out flaws in accusations while scum try to shift blame. a) First of all, this explanation has some truth but it's improperly applied. I was not trying to shift blame. I was not trying to FOS or divert suspicion to bumatlarge. In fact, I was doing exactly what he says townies do; I pointed out that the accusation was flawed because it was arbitrary and poorly explained (even though I gave him an opportunity to explain it). b) Secondly, this is not an answer to my question of "why?" His explanation is basically that my question of "why" is the answer to itself; the answer to "why did you vote for me instead of bum" is because I asked that question. Clearly this is circular reasoning. JeeJee, you still haven't answered why you voted/accused me instead of bum. 9) then bum jumps on the bandwagon against me based on the incorrect assumption that I was pointing fingers at him. Curious how bum and JeeJee are interacting here... To sum up, JeeJee and bum have been misinterpreting and misrepresenting me. This is something that is done either by scum trying to lead a mislynch or by townies who fail at reading comprehension. Which one are you guys? Yeah, no. First, you're trying to shift blame yet again, except this time it's on me. Cute, but it ain't gonna fly. Second, you are getting emotional and defensive, hence the 'calm down'. I don't think calm people say 'cut the crap' -- it's people who get frustrated. And I think I know why you're frustrated. Second, no, your answer did not point out the flaw in my vote. Compare these two responses, both to the same accusation: Hm, if you think that's rolefishing, why vote for me and not bum, who brought it up first? I'm not role fishing, im simply stating that I think everyone has an ability. No one needs to counter claim that, but I half my fun in mafia is speculation. Don't think anyone should be voting anyone yet, we need 9 for a lynch, so silly accusations aren't gonna cut it 5 minutes into the game. Which one of these is shifting the blame and which one of these is pointing out the problem with the accusation? Third, if you haven't figured it out, my vote on you obviously wasn't based on anything as it was the beginning of the game. Hence the 'why not'. As per your reaction though, I'm quite happy to have it remain where it is. | ||
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Bada-bapaba. I'm lovin' it. | ||
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On September 09 2011 06:24 Jackal58 wrote: That makes perfect sense/////////// If you're not quite sane. ##VOTE: TheAwesomeAll I encourage everybody to vote for one of these derps voting for no reason. Pick a couple and we'll consolidate. This game is pure bullshit so far. On September 09 2011 06:21 Jackal58 wrote: Wtf is an RVS????? I'm down with lynching any of the first 5 people that started the game with a vote. ?? | ||
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On September 09 2011 09:55 chaos13 wrote: Yeah I looked back through his posts and there was nothing there. Literally. Almost no posts. That was my first thought on him because of his shitty random vote. After filtering him I see he's made about 2 posts with content after that though and neither of them are very scummy. I call major bullshit on this. check the timestamps, all of my major content posts were made before you wrote that post. I didn't make "about two posts of content after that", this is a deliberate lie to absolve yourself of responsibility. If you're a cop, I think chaos is a great visit based on this alone. | ||
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On September 09 2011 10:15 chaos13 wrote: I'd switch to TAA or iGrok if I thought either of them were good lynches. The question raised now is which is worse - no lynch or town lynch? One of them at least gives us information from a flip. Cause it doesn't look like GGQ will be hanging tonight. what the fuck is this? | ||
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Dunno what to expect here.. on the one hand, taa's been posting oddly compared to his vanilla town play.. but on the other, there hasn't really been a strong redirection attempt from his lynch at all, it just kinda snowballed, and happened. | ||
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Y U DO THIS SCUM gl town | ||
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I really wish I'd gotten to play this out further, it developed.. in an interesting manner. Ah well. | ||
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